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Post by Boise Aztec on May 19, 2023 10:35:41 GMT -8
Disagree. A legit rim protector is needed or the ceiling is capped for next year’s team. You are assuming that Shay isn’t a rim protector
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Post by aztecking on May 19, 2023 10:49:25 GMT -8
Disagree. A legit rim protector is needed or the ceiling is capped for next year’s team. You are assuming that Shay isn’t a rim protector A starter for us? I would say no, he could backup but if he’s our starter at the 5 then we could be in trouble. I haven’t heard much if anything positive about him in 2 years from Zeigler or the coaching staff.
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Post by ramrodd23 on May 19, 2023 10:54:57 GMT -8
You are assuming that Shay isn’t a rim protector A starter for us? I would say no, he could backup but if he’s our starter at the 5 then we could be in trouble. I haven’t heard much if anything positive about him in 2 years from Zeigler or the coaching staff. The better question is he really a backup for us?
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Post by laaztec on May 19, 2023 10:59:15 GMT -8
Disagree. A legit rim protector is needed or the ceiling is capped for next year’s team. You are assuming that Shay isn’t a rim protector He’s an X Factor. Any know if he’s developing?
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Post by sdcoug on May 19, 2023 11:05:43 GMT -8
Also, my sources are not Twitter. You knew that already. Especially when I call you on your lie about Washington and your magical inside people. Then you backpedaled like Michael Jackson. You didn’t know anything the Resse Dixon Waters was visiting either. Just give it a rest. Seriously this is getting pathetic now. Coug does speak with a certain authoritativeness that isn’t always warranted. He said he thought Warren Washington coming here was a “slam dunk” when he entered the portal and it turned out we weren’t even one of the top schools he was considering. We were his top school when he entered the portal. He received crazy phone calls that changed his mind. We weren't listed at the end because by then he'd shifted to a financial mindset rather than returning home to a final 2 team, which he expressed was his initial objective to guys on our staff. If you think AC's are bad intel to each their own.
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Post by sdcoug on May 19, 2023 11:14:12 GMT -8
You are assuming that Shay isn’t a rim protector A starter for us? I would say no, he could backup but if he’s our starter at the 5 then we could be in trouble. I haven’t heard much if anything positive about him in 2 years from Zeigler or the coaching staff. We don't need a starter. We already have one. I think we add a big, but most likely a back up & someone in the mold of guys we've added recently like Yanni, Tomiac, Diabate & Ledee. Experienced guys who are willing to take on backup roles. Shay's developing but since they haven't needed to use him in serious game situations you never know until that presents itself. Had Shay gone to some lower tier D1 school where he could start and get experience, he might be someone we'd be chasing in the portal. Sometimes the only way you know is when they produce. He's solid in practices, or at least the ones I've seen. Dutcher has raved about Shay at several functions, including his luncheons & the BB banquet. We'll see what happens when the rubber hits the road. The comments I hear about him are why I think we add an older, more experienced back up big, as not to stack over him further. That said, the ideal add IMO would be a grad transfer like Diallo or even Dorius, but not sure either would take a secondary role for their final year. Also wouldn't shock me to see them go after someone younger than Shay with the intent to RS him, like a Diongue. If Diongue proves he could contribute, or if Shay struggles, then they could pull is RS. But IMO Diongue needs at least a year to gain strength & develop. He gets pushed around very easily.
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Post by dirtball on May 19, 2023 11:33:27 GMT -8
Also, my sources are not Twitter. You knew that already. Especially when I call you on your lie about Washington and your magical inside people. Then you backpedaled like Michael Jackson. You didn’t know anything the Resse Dixon Waters was visiting either. Just give it a rest. Seriously this is getting pathetic now. Coug does speak with a certain authoritativeness that isn’t always warranted. He said he thought Warren Washington coming here was a “slam dunk” when he entered the portal and it turned out we weren’t even one of the top schools he was considering. Honestly, its annoying. He speaks like a know it all, but he is totally off base. A lot. One day " Our NIL is good, better than a lot of P5s" Next day, a poster mentions Dave Velasquez meeting where he is almost in a panic about our NIL or lack thereof. SDCoug " Hunter Dickinson only got 100K " Next Day, Lamont Butler's dad, "Lamont had offers of 1,000,000, 500,000, and 300,000". If he added IMO, or IMHO to some of his posts it would do wonders. I mean we all have posts where we are wrong, I made a post months back where I was dead wrong, and it got bumped after Lamont made the game-winner. I liked said post, and moved on.
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Post by dirtball on May 19, 2023 11:35:48 GMT -8
A starter for us? I would say no, he could backup but if he’s our starter at the 5 then we could be in trouble. I haven’t heard much if anything positive about him in 2 years from Zeigler or the coaching staff. We don't need a starter. We already have one. I think we add a big, but most likely a back up & someone in the mold of guys we've added recently like Yanni, Tomiac, Diabate & Ledee. Experienced guys who are willing to take on backup roles. Shay's developing but since they haven't needed to use him in serious game situations you never know until that presents itself. Had Shay gone to some lower tier D1 school where he could start and get experience, he might be someone we'd be chasing in the portal. Sometimes the only way you know is when they produce. He's solid in practices, or at least the ones I've seen. Dutcher has raved about Shay at several functions, including his luncheons & the BB banquet. We'll see what happens when the rubber hits the road. The comments I hear about him are why I think we add an older, more experienced back up big, as not to stack over him further. That said, the ideal add IMO would be a grad transfer like Diallo or even Dorius, but not sure either would take a secondary role for their final year. Also wouldn't shock me to see them go after someone younger than Shay with the intent to RS him, like a Diongue. If Diongue proves he could contribute, or if Shay struggles, then they could pull is RS. But IMO Diongue needs at least a year to gain strength & develop. He gets pushed around very easily. I agree with Sdcoug on this. I think the team is better with ledee and Pal, then any center in the portal right now and Ledee as a frontcourt. We need depth, and someone to develop.
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Post by standiego on May 19, 2023 13:34:28 GMT -8
Agree that there is not a high quality 5 in the transfer portal that is likely considering SDSU but there are players that might have potential to develop into one next year and the Aztecs are going to be losing both Ledee and Jay Pal - and fans know how difficult it is getting a quality 5
Coaches are the only ones who know how good Shay Johnson is - although he has primarily in HS he was best known for his defense . He does seem athletic and an additional plus - while he only played in mop up games . He should know the defense - something that others will have to learn . do not know much about Freshman Heide .
What would it hurt to ask Adrame the reserve 5 from WSU to come in for an in person visit - he did have a decent rating with his Arizona HS - is 7 Ft with 7' 5" inch wing span - did play in 23 games before ( also lost time due to an injury ) maybe 6 minutes a game with 2 rebounds in the PAC . would have 3 years or as mentioned maybe red shirt a season if needed . There is also Diallo - Aztec coaches should have some opinions about his play at San Jose .
Again see if they will come in for a visit and evaluate - they could say no or want to come for a visit . Might want to hear what they say
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Post by partytecs on May 19, 2023 15:32:48 GMT -8
Coug does speak with a certain authoritativeness that isn’t always warranted. He said he thought Warren Washington coming here was a “slam dunk” when he entered the portal and it turned out we weren’t even one of the top schools he was considering. Honestly, its annoying. He speaks like a know it all, but he is totally off base. A lot. One day " Our NIL is good, better than a lot of P5s" Next day, a poster mentions Dave Velasquez meeting where he is almost in a panic about our NIL or lack thereof. SDCoug " Hunter Dickinson only got 100K " Next Day, Lamont Butler's dad, "Lamont had offers of 1,000,000, 500,000, and 300,000". If he added IMO, or IMHO to some of his posts it would do wonders. I mean we all have posts where we are wrong, I made a post months back where I was dead wrong, and it got bumped after Lamont made the game-winner. I liked said post, and moved on. Cmon Dude, Recruiting and NIL is changing very fast, give him a break. He knows what he is talking about. Sometimes he gets very opinionated, but he knows what is going on, I enjoy his post. I don't agree that LeDee can't play the 4 and if we were to get Diallo, then they both would start with Ledee at the 4.
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Post by rockshow on May 19, 2023 15:39:09 GMT -8
A starter for us? I would say no, he could backup but if he’s our starter at the 5 then we could be in trouble. I haven’t heard much if anything positive about him in 2 years from Zeigler or the coaching staff. We don't need a starter. We already have one. I think we add a big, but most likely a back up & someone in the mold of guys we've added recently like Yanni, Tomiac, Diabate & Ledee. Experienced guys who are willing to take on backup roles. Shay's developing but since they haven't needed to use him in serious game situations you never know until that presents itself. Had Shay gone to some lower tier D1 school where he could start and get experience, he might be someone we'd be chasing in the portal. Sometimes the only way you know is when they produce. He's solid in practices, or at least the ones I've seen. Dutcher has raved about Shay at several functions, including his luncheons & the BB banquet. We'll see what happens when the rubber hits the road. The comments I hear about him are why I think we add an older, more experienced back up big, as not to stack over him further. That said, the ideal add IMO would be a grad transfer like Diallo or even Dorius, but not sure either would take a secondary role for their final year. Also wouldn't shock me to see them go after someone younger than Shay with the intent to RS him, like a Diongue. If Diongue proves he could contribute, or if Shay struggles, then they could pull is RS. But IMO Diongue needs at least a year to gain strength & develop. He gets pushed around very easily. He raved about him at the banquet, and I'm not doubting that it's genuine. But the skeptical side of me knows that we need the depth that Shay provides and that Shay can probably use a confidence boost, and Dutch is smart and talking him up at a big banquet like that could help deter the chances he transfers to get more PT. It's not dishonest by Dutch in any stretch of the imagination, but it might not reflect how big of a role he actually ends up getting. From the practices I've seen + exhibition games early on and garbage minutes, I just haven't gotten the impression he's ready to play meaningful minutes for us. But who knows. But it only makes sense to me to recruit a 5 man in the transfer portal if we think it's very likely he's a better player than Demarshay. If there aren't any 5s who are better, it doesn't make sense to me to recruit a big man just for shits and giggles. Would rather use it on a second time transfer who has to sit out a year and can contribute more or a younger more raw player with upside who needs to develop.
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Post by sdsuball on May 19, 2023 16:16:26 GMT -8
What about Connor Vanover as a grad transfer? 7' 5", 12% block rate, efficient scorer near the rim.
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Post by fisherville on May 19, 2023 17:50:12 GMT -8
What about Connor Vanover as a grad transfer? 7' 5", 12% block rate, efficient scorer near the rim. We’d have to completely alter our defense for him, he’s a solid player but not a fit
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on May 19, 2023 18:06:49 GMT -8
With Jay Pal committing I don't think we really need a rim protector anymore. If he's a legit 6'9 and has length, that's enough size/length down low with him a the 4 and Ledee at the 5. Hopefully he plays savvy defense, similar to Arop
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Post by ramrodd23 on May 19, 2023 20:44:32 GMT -8
We don't need a starter. We already have one. I think we add a big, but most likely a back up & someone in the mold of guys we've added recently like Yanni, Tomiac, Diabate & Ledee. Experienced guys who are willing to take on backup roles. Shay's developing but since they haven't needed to use him in serious game situations you never know until that presents itself. Had Shay gone to some lower tier D1 school where he could start and get experience, he might be someone we'd be chasing in the portal. Sometimes the only way you know is when they produce. He's solid in practices, or at least the ones I've seen. Dutcher has raved about Shay at several functions, including his luncheons & the BB banquet. We'll see what happens when the rubber hits the road. The comments I hear about him are why I think we add an older, more experienced back up big, as not to stack over him further. That said, the ideal add IMO would be a grad transfer like Diallo or even Dorius, but not sure either would take a secondary role for their final year. Also wouldn't shock me to see them go after someone younger than Shay with the intent to RS him, like a Diongue. If Diongue proves he could contribute, or if Shay struggles, then they could pull is RS. But IMO Diongue needs at least a year to gain strength & develop. He gets pushed around very easily. He raved about him at the banquet, and I'm not doubting that it's genuine. But the skeptical side of me knows that we need the depth that Shay provides and that Shay can probably use a confidence boost, and Dutch is smart and talking him up at a big banquet like that could help deter the chances he transfers to get more PT. It's not dishonest by Dutch in any stretch of the imagination, but it might not reflect how big of a role he actually ends up getting. From the practices I've seen + exhibition games early on and garbage minutes, I just haven't gotten the impression he's ready to play meaningful minutes for us. But who knows. But it only makes sense to me to recruit a 5 man in the transfer portal if we think it's very likely he's a better player than Demarshay. If there aren't any 5s who are better, it doesn't make sense to me to recruit a big man just for shits and giggles. Would rather use it on a second time transfer who has to sit out a year and can contribute more or a younger more raw player with upside who needs to develop. Yet, Dutcher and Assistant coaches never mention DJ after the national championship game was over in any interviews, and they did a ton of interviews. Dutcher and the assistant coaches definitely mention Byrd and Saunders a lot
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Post by ramrodd23 on May 19, 2023 20:49:49 GMT -8
Honestly, its annoying. He speaks like a know it all, but he is totally off base. A lot. One day " Our NIL is good, better than a lot of P5s" Next day, a poster mentions Dave Velasquez meeting where he is almost in a panic about our NIL or lack thereof. SDCoug " Hunter Dickinson only got 100K " Next Day, Lamont Butler's dad, "Lamont had offers of 1,000,000, 500,000, and 300,000". If he added IMO, or IMHO to some of his posts it would do wonders. I mean we all have posts where we are wrong, I made a post months back where I was dead wrong, and it got bumped after Lamont made the game-winner. I liked said post, and moved on. Cmon Dude, Recruiting and NIL is changing very fast, give him a break. He knows what he is talking about. Sometimes he gets very opinionated, but he knows what is going on, I enjoy his post. I don't agree that LeDee can't play the 4 and if we were to get Diallo, then they both would start with Ledee at the 4. No he doesn’t. I called him out on his lies. Tell what real inside information has he really given anyone?
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Post by partytecs on May 20, 2023 6:06:25 GMT -8
He was all over Malachi recruitment
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Post by ramrodd23 on May 20, 2023 6:39:26 GMT -8
He was all over Malachi recruitment Really? He a WSU fan that actually had recruiting writer on 247 cougfan.com. Also, he get glowing remarks by posters about his inside information over there. My friend is a WSU fan and left that board a long time ago. He is one of the reasons.
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Post by standiego on May 20, 2023 9:53:54 GMT -8
Do think that Adrame the 7 ft center with a 7'5" wingspan would be worth an invite
He played HS ball in Arizona - highly noted for his defense that led their team to the GEICO National T in Florida where against quality teams he had 9 blocks in 3 games .
Family from Senegal - played Soccer growing up - has only played Basketball for 4 years - rated a 4 star player in HS
He has 3 years to play - could he or Heide red shirt or play this year to solidify the 5 position with Ledee - , Shay Johnson , Jay and or Adrame or Heide
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Post by sdsuball on May 20, 2023 17:18:55 GMT -8
What about Connor Vanover as a grad transfer? 7' 5", 12% block rate, efficient scorer near the rim. We’d have to completely alter our defense for him, he’s a solid player but not a fit What would we have to alter for him? He's an shot blocker at the rim similar to Mensah
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