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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Dec 20, 2022 9:14:47 GMT -8
as HC at Colorado. 13 or more buffs headed to the portal.
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Post by standiego on Dec 20, 2022 9:19:48 GMT -8
Believe he did that last week
So yes there will be movement by numerous players and there will be even more as Bowl games finish
CSU has about 17 in the Portal
The Ducks have over 10
As many predicted a wild and crazy time for Coaches - handling HS recruiting and the Transfer Portal
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Post by jp92grad on Dec 20, 2022 9:38:04 GMT -8
Believe he did that last week So yes there will be movement by numerous players and there will be even more as Bowl games finish CSU has about 17 in the Portal The Ducks have over 10 As many predicted a wild and crazy time for Coaches - handling HS recruiting and the Transfer Portal The Duck are out of control now up to over 15 in the Transfer Portal (out-going) players and it's really just getting started.
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Post by perch on Dec 20, 2022 10:49:45 GMT -8
There has to be some changes in the portal, it is getting out of control. How can a coach get ready for the next season if he loses a lot of players. Sure he can bring in new ones, but they have to learn a new syatem and will take a while to get fitted into a new system.
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Post by standiego on Dec 20, 2022 12:33:37 GMT -8
They did change the dates a player can enter the Portal
Would be helpful if Players do Verbal - player is Not bound to a school until they actually are attending classes But a School has to hold the scholarship for the player until he makes his final decision - as Aztecs have seen some QB's - who have switched
It would be helpful If the player can get into the new school By Jan Semester so they can do Spring Practices . Numerous Aztec transfers did it last season
Yes is major change for the Coaches but the good ones who work the Portal can definitely use it to their advantage
Unfortunately as always it favors P5 teams
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jan 7, 2023 12:37:58 GMT -8
Is Rush End Mott still interested in SDSU??
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Post by jcljorgenson on Jan 8, 2023 9:36:23 GMT -8
I was surprised to learn scholarship offers are for just one year but are typically renewed. In short, Sanders doesn't have to renew them and can push out players that were committed to the team/school. The reality is a coach will rarely choose to drop a scholarship player without a legitimate reason, I'm sure a coach with that habit may eventually have trouble with future player commitments.
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Post by standiego on Jan 8, 2023 11:12:06 GMT -8
Believe more coaches are telling players that they may not be in the team's plans for the next season and with the Portal can apply for a transfer
Aztec QB Lucas Johnson was told that last season and that is why he left and very possibly some others
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Post by myownwords on Jan 8, 2023 11:39:41 GMT -8
Have we EVER pulled a scholarship? That's not rhetorical. I don't know.
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Post by hoobs on Jan 8, 2023 11:49:40 GMT -8
Have we EVER pulled a scholarship? That's not rhetorical. I don't know. There are lots of ways to "pull a scholarship". If a coach tells a kid that they aren't ever going to see the court / field and the coach would be happy to help find them a transfer destination where they would fit in... would you call that "pulling a scholarship"? Because our coaches have definitely done that version. The very hardcore "you do not have a scholarship next season here, period" ...I am not sure, but if it has happened it has been extremely rare -- and I am very happy / proud for that.
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Post by standiego on Jan 8, 2023 12:37:12 GMT -8
As you pointed out Coaches are saying to players that they do Not see them in the game plan for next season - as the Aztecs did with QB Lucas and the other QB who both then entered the Portal
So fine line between what they say to a player
With the Transfer Portal - players now have the opportunity to leave and not have to sit a season
So the Portal is good for the better players but can hurt a fringe player or a reality check for them unless they can find a new team
Not sure if other Aztecs besides the couple that have been named have entered the Portal
Also remember there is a limit on scholarships and College football is a Business
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Post by Den60 on Jan 9, 2023 9:47:17 GMT -8
Have we EVER pulled a scholarship? That's not rhetorical. I don't know. Fisher did it when he first came here. Can't remember how many.
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Post by perch on Jan 9, 2023 10:01:02 GMT -8
But Sanders has about 20 incoming transfers!
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Post by standiego on Jan 9, 2023 10:11:44 GMT -8
Times have changed
Coaches know they have to produce and quickly as their jobs are on the line
Transfer Portal - as usual is great for the higher rated players - decent for the next level but now those that were basically just hanging on are getting the wake up calls . there is the Transfer Portal so players have to sell themselves .
College Football is a very big business - the strong survive even flourish but then it moves on down to those players who have not developed or been developed as a player are out . Can teach some guys that they might also pick a school that gives them a decent College Education
Many fans want a Coach to produce or be let go - Aztec fans have observed this with OC - Now as we observe it is happening to players
On the other hand there are Walk Ons who have shown they can be better then those who received scholarships
this is even more likely with schools similar to MW -where teams are primarily getting 3 star players or lower
In addition there are limits on scholarships - so coaches need to get the best guys on the team that they can
Numerous fans complained that the Aztecs lost some OL - yes some went on to other schools but there were also some who did not end up on a team
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Post by jcljorgenson on Jan 9, 2023 14:11:35 GMT -8
Have we EVER pulled a scholarship? That's not rhetorical. I don't know. There are lots of ways to "pull a scholarship". If a coach tells a kid that they aren't ever going to see the court / field and the coach would be happy to help find them a transfer destination where they would fit in... would you call that "pulling a scholarship"? Because our coaches have definitely done that version. The very hardcore "you do not have a scholarship next season here, period" ...I am not sure, but if it has happened it has been extremely rare -- and I am very happy / proud for that. IMO, telling a player they aren't going to play is just being frank and potentially doing them a favor. That's very different than saying they will have to start paying tuition, room and board - if they want to stay enrolled at their school.
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Post by standiego on Jan 9, 2023 14:59:52 GMT -8
Believe the Aztec Coaches have an end of the season session with each individual player and in some cases it maybe very realistic that the Coaches do not see the player in the plans for the next season - and it might be a good idea that they put their name in the Transfer Portal
Very basic
Or there are players that see it coming and put their name in the Portal if they choose to continue to play
Not what players may want to hear but this is reality of the way it is
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Post by bballfan11 on Jan 9, 2023 23:27:38 GMT -8
Have we EVER pulled a scholarship? That's not rhetorical. I don't know. Fisher did it when he first came here. Can't remember how many. Emerald 8?
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Post by standiego on Jan 10, 2023 8:55:12 GMT -8
there is a limit on scholarships so coaches need to get the best players they can on the squad
No Sit transfer has shook thing up quite a bit
A lot more movement and faster then it used to be
So coaches are having to add transfer players and sometimes they can mean letting others go
Basic business for College sports and for coaches it means much sooner then before
Guys are transferring out and others transferring in that means that if you do not think a player is in the game plan and asked to leave or whatever words you want to describe it . Do not think coaches are going to bad mouth a player but will suggest they look for another school
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Post by Old School on Jan 11, 2023 7:55:22 GMT -8
Self imposed free agency. It's been discovered only about half will land a new home in a D1 school. Some will end up at a smaller school or junior college, paying their own way.
Oldie Out
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Post by standiego on Jan 11, 2023 9:23:41 GMT -8
As we have all seen College Football is a Very Big BUSINESS
For Conferences , Schools , Coaches and the Players
Scholarships are costing schools quite a large amount of Money
As in a Business you have to produce to earn your worth
Newer wrinkle is the Transfer Portal and as in business the Better Qualified are able to get the most out of it and those closer to the lower levels can have problems
players can now transfer without having to sit a season - that helps the top players and top teams
If you are in a business and have people that are not performing - what do you do - you replace them - same with scholarship players
Not what we want to hear but it is reality for business and college sports and all those involved have to adjust - for players it can mean very quickly they have to produce or be looking at other alternatives
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