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Dec 3, 2022 9:29:23 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 3, 2022 9:29:23 GMT -8
Is there anything to the rumor that the Padres Organization and/or Tatis have soured on each other? Could Tatis be moving on? I highly doubt it, but if we get Trea Turner, whom people are saying we're interested in, it might make sense. Or, is it very plausible that we can keep Tatis and also acquire Turner?
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Dec 5, 2022 16:37:09 GMT -8
Post by docmm on Dec 5, 2022 16:37:09 GMT -8
Turner just signed with Phillies, 11 years, $300M.
Best news so far is that Verlander and deGrom DIDN'T sign with the stinking Dodgers! Instead they signed Kershaw for one more year. He's really been incredible but I can't believe he can keep pitching up to that level.
Urias is a stud but they lost Anderson and Gosolin and May have to prove they can come back from their injuries and Buehler will miss the entire season. I still think they'll overpay for someone like Bassit but their pitching isn't nearly as scary as it used to be.
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Dec 5, 2022 17:55:42 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 5, 2022 17:55:42 GMT -8
Turner just signed with Phillies, 11 years, $300M. Best news so far is that Verlander and deGrom DIDN'T sign with the stinking Dodgers! Instead they signed Kershaw for one more year. He's really been incredible but I can't believe he can keep pitching up to that level. Urias is a stud but they lost Anderson and Gosolin and May have to prove they can come back from their injuries and Buehler will miss the entire season. I still think they'll overpay for someone like Bassit but their pitching isn't nearly as scary as it used to be. Definitely a plus for the Padres in terms of the points you're making here.
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Dec 8, 2022 1:59:32 GMT -8
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Post by bballfan11 on Dec 8, 2022 1:59:32 GMT -8
Is there anything to the rumor that the Padres Organization and/or Tatis have soured on each other? Could Tatis be moving on? I highly doubt it, but if we get Trea Turner, whom people are saying we're interested in, it might make sense. Or, is it very plausible that we can keep Tatis and also acquire Turner? Maybe there might be some truth in the rumors of Tatis possibly being traded in the offseason with the signing of Bogaerts.
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Dec 8, 2022 8:06:20 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 8, 2022 8:06:20 GMT -8
Is there anything to the rumor that the Padres Organization and/or Tatis have soured on each other? Could Tatis be moving on? I highly doubt it, but if we get Trea Turner, whom people are saying we're interested in, it might make sense. Or, is it very plausible that we can keep Tatis and also acquire Turner? Maybe there might be some truth in the rumors of Tatis possibly being traded in the offseason with the signing of Bogaerts. You never know, but he's probably going to be moved to the outfield.
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Post by sdsuball on Dec 8, 2022 17:34:40 GMT -8
Maybe there might be some truth in the rumors of Tatis possibly being traded in the offseason with the signing of Bogaerts. You never know, but he's probably going to be moved to the outfield. Two guns for arms in RF and LF with Tatis and Soto. Hopefully Tatis can make a smooth transition to right.
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Post by junior on Dec 12, 2022 14:13:58 GMT -8
Still lots of chatter, but trading him now - literally the lowest value point of his young career - would seem a very low IQ move. And Preller really hasn't made any of those that I'm aware of … that said, if Tatis somehow refuses to play the outfield or demands to play SS or be traded, even though he's got a contract through the rest of his life (or at least 2034) - LOL - who knows what might happen.
He's got a no-trade clause through 2028 or so, and he could put the brakes on anything the Padres came up with as far as some mega-deal involving more than NYY. Still, if the Padres are feeling like they've been fooled by Junior for the last time, or they're just getting bad vibes about his future as a San Diego Padre, I guess anything is possible.
I keep going back to the little dust-up with Manny. That was very telling as far as that goes, but it does indicate that the potential for trouble exists - particularly with the Padres bringing in another SS. Maybe they know something the rest of us don't… But, as SS might be the most athletic player on a team, the Padres now have three such athletes on the team. Hopefully, they all play nice together, and lead the Padres farther in the post-season than they were able to get themselves this past season.
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Tatis
Dec 12, 2022 15:42:17 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 12, 2022 15:42:17 GMT -8
Still lots of chatter, but trading him now - literally the lowest value point of his young career - would seem a very low IQ move. And Preller really hasn't made any of those that I'm aware of … that said, if Tatis somehow refuses to play the outfield or demands to play SS or be traded, even though he's got a contract through the rest of his life (or at least 2034) - LOL - who knows what might happen. He's got a no-trade clause through 2028 or so, and he could put the brakes on anything the Padres came up with as far as some mega-deal involving more than NYY. Still, if the Padres are feeling like they've been fooled by Junior for the last time, or they're just getting bad vibes about his future as a San Diego Padre, I guess anything is possible. I keep going back to the little dust-up with Manny. That was very telling as far as that goes, but it does indicate that the potential for trouble exists - particularly with the Padres bringing in another SS. Maybe they know something the rest of us don't… But, as SS might be the most athletic player on a team, the Padres now have three such athletes on the team. Hopefully, they all play nice together, and lead the Padres farther in the post-season than they were able to get themselves this past season. Yes, I think it's one of those situations that you look at and say, very, very doubtful that he would get traded, but you never know. You never know exactly what's going on behind the scenes.
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Dec 13, 2022 13:51:18 GMT -8
Post by sdcoug on Dec 13, 2022 13:51:18 GMT -8
Turner just signed with Phillies, 11 years, $300M. Best news so far is that Verlander and deGrom DIDN'T sign with the stinking Dodgers! Instead they signed Kershaw for one more year. He's really been incredible but I can't believe he can keep pitching up to that level. Urias is a stud but they lost Anderson and Gosolin and May have to prove they can come back from their injuries and Buehler will miss the entire season. I still think they'll overpay for someone like Bassit but their pitching isn't nearly as scary as it used to be. Think the Dodgers are getting their payroll in check for a year so they can fork out $450M to Ohtani next year. Times very well with the Padres making a big run in 2023!
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Dec 13, 2022 14:00:51 GMT -8
Post by docmm on Dec 13, 2022 14:00:51 GMT -8
Turner just signed with Phillies, 11 years, $300M. Best news so far is that Verlander and deGrom DIDN'T sign with the stinking Dodgers! Instead they signed Kershaw for one more year. He's really been incredible but I can't believe he can keep pitching up to that level. Urias is a stud but they lost Anderson and Gosolin and May have to prove they can come back from their injuries and Buehler will miss the entire season. I still think they'll overpay for someone like Bassit but their pitching isn't nearly as scary as it used to be. Think the Dodgers are getting their payroll in check for a year so they can fork out $450M to Ohtani next year. Times very well with the Padres making a big run in 2023! The Dodgers are supposedly still in the mix for Rondon. He's a stud.
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Dec 13, 2022 14:34:52 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 13, 2022 14:34:52 GMT -8
Think the Dodgers are getting their payroll in check for a year so they can fork out $450M to Ohtani next year. Times very well with the Padres making a big run in 2023! The Dodgers are supposedly still in the mix for Rondon. He's a stud. Of course. Our nemesis will always be there to haunt us!!! Stoked that we got by them this year.
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Dec 28, 2022 8:22:14 GMT -8
Post by mc08066 on Dec 28, 2022 8:22:14 GMT -8
Manny has a option to get out of his contract at the end of the year. If that happens the likely replacement might be Tatis if we are unable to retain Manny. Unfortunately unless something has changed this is not a position of depth in the Padres system.
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Dec 28, 2022 11:22:02 GMT -8
Post by aardvark on Dec 28, 2022 11:22:02 GMT -8
Manny has a option to get out of his contract at the end of the year. If that happens the likely replacement might be Tatis if we are unable to retain Manny. Unfortunately unless something has changed this is not a position of depth in the Padres system. I look forward to Aztecryan's response to this post.
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Post by sdsuball on Dec 28, 2022 12:07:32 GMT -8
Manny has a option to get out of his contract at the end of the year. If that happens the likely replacement might be Tatis if we are unable to retain Manny. Unfortunately unless something has changed this is not a position of depth in the Padres system. If we did lose Manny we we be fine defensively. Multiple players on our roster can play third. Tatis would be a very good defensive player at third with his range and arm.
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Dec 30, 2022 19:07:03 GMT -8
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Dec 30, 2022 19:07:03 GMT -8
Manny has a option to get out of his contract at the end of the year. If that happens the likely replacement might be Tatis if we are unable to retain Manny. Unfortunately unless something has changed this is not a position of depth in the Padres system. If we did lose Manny we we be fine defensively. Multiple players on our roster can play third. Tatis would be a very good defensive player at third with his range and arm. If we lose Manny we lose a lot offensively, and we lose our team leader - the heart and soul of the team. That's irreplaceable.
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Dec 30, 2022 21:09:40 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 30, 2022 21:09:40 GMT -8
Manny isn't going anywhere.
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Dec 30, 2022 22:10:41 GMT -8
Post by The Aztec Panther on Dec 30, 2022 22:10:41 GMT -8
Manny isn't going anywhere. Every single thing I read is that Manny is opting out for sure. AND just about no one that I'm reading expects him to stay in San Diego. That doesn't mean he won't. It just means that people in the know know that he will get some absurd offers, and San Diego has a ton of money tied up in other players, so we just may not have the funds to pay him what other teams can. For my money Manny is the most important piece of the puzzle, and if we lose him we lose the team since he's the guy who brings everyone together. He's a true team leader. You can't just replace that. You BECOME a team leader. You aren't annointed. If Preller re-signs Manny, I'll be extremely happy. If he doesn't? This could be a very highly paid 84 win team in '24.
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Dec 31, 2022 0:35:44 GMT -8
Post by aardvark on Dec 31, 2022 0:35:44 GMT -8
Manny isn't going anywhere. I have to be honest, Ryan. I have my doubts. Yes, he would be walking away from $160 million if he opts out. But the market is goofy--he could get even more on the open market if he just has another typical Manny year. But I really hope he stays.
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Dec 31, 2022 11:37:51 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 31, 2022 11:37:51 GMT -8
Manny isn't going anywhere. I have to be honest, Ryan. I have my doubts. Yes, he would be walking away from $160 million if he opts out. But the market is goofy--he could get even more on the open market if he just has another typical Manny year. But I really hope he stays. He's going to opt out if there's no extension reached beforehand, but he's not going anywhere.
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Dec 31, 2022 11:39:29 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 31, 2022 11:39:29 GMT -8
Manny isn't going anywhere. Every single thing I read is that Manny is opting out for sure. AND just about no one that I'm reading expects him to stay in San Diego. That doesn't mean he won't. It just means that people in the know know that he will get some absurd offers, and San Diego has a ton of money tied up in other players, so we just may not have the funds to pay him what other teams can. For my money Manny is the most important piece of the puzzle, and if we lose him we lose the team since he's the guy who brings everyone together. He's a true team leader. You can't just replace that. You BECOME a team leader. You aren't annointed. If Preller re-signs Manny, I'll be extremely happy. If he doesn't? This could be a very highly paid 84 win team in '24. What money is tied up in other players? There are less than a half dozen contracts on the books in 2025. He's not going anywhere.
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