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Post by aztecryan on Jan 24, 2023 12:37:10 GMT -8
Sounds like an oversight and a mistake, similar to the Biden situation. Pence is on record in an interview saying he never took classified documents from the White House to his home. Blah, blah, blah. These politicians will say anything to escape problems that will hurt their political career, etc.. Just because they say it on record, doesn't make it real. Just because you have zero ability to analyze a chain of events doesn't make your cynicism factual. Knowing how these documents are handled, Pence's story is completely plausible, as is Biden's. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 24, 2023 13:15:59 GMT -8
Blah, blah, blah. These politicians will say anything to escape problems that will hurt their political career, etc.. Just because they say it on record, doesn't make it real. Just because you have zero ability to analyze a chain of events doesn't make your cynicism factual. Knowing how these documents are handled, Pence's story is completely plausible, as is Biden's. Oh, I can analyze chain of events, no problem. Believing in all of the events to nth degree is a different story. I believe they MOST likely knew about them. You say they probably didn't. Not a shock that we disagree. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 24, 2023 13:30:55 GMT -8
Just because you have zero ability to analyze a chain of events doesn't make your cynicism factual. Knowing how these documents are handled, Pence's story is completely plausible, as is Biden's. Oh, I can analyze chain of events, no problem. Believing in all of the events to nth degree is a different story. I believe they MOST likely knew about them. You say they probably didn't. Not a shock that we disagree. Considering there's no evidence to support your position, no, it's not. Just shapeless conjecture and hypothesizing. If you bothered to do any investigating of your own, you'd learn this isn't all that uncommon. It's only in the limelight because of the corruption of Trump and the endless criminality of his stealing of the documents. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 24, 2023 14:35:21 GMT -8
Oh, I can analyze chain of events, no problem. Believing in all of the events to nth degree is a different story. I believe they MOST likely knew about them. You say they probably didn't. Not a shock that we disagree. Considering there's no evidence to support your position, no, it's not. Just shapeless conjecture and hypothesizing. If you bothered to do any investigating of your own, you'd learn this isn't all that uncommon. It's only in the limelight because of the corruption of Trump and the endless criminality of his stealing of the documents. I would believe that MAYBE Pence didn't know, but the "If the Prosecutor isn't fired, you're not getting the money" Joe Biden, I highly doubt he didn't know. Biden may have forgotten about them, which would not be a shock at all, considering his memory is not all there, but I think he knew they were there, most of his life. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 24, 2023 14:56:26 GMT -8
Shameful pandering by Ted Cruz. Once again, there is no plan to govern, just sham investigations and kangaroo court antics.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jan 24, 2023 14:58:38 GMT -8
Apparently the Pense documents were still sealed and in his safe.
This is just ridiculous.
Meanwhile, every time WH spokesperson Jean-Pierre says “I will refer you to White House counsel” while answering questions, she makes her boss look even more guilty.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 24, 2023 15:00:01 GMT -8
Considering there's no evidence to support your position, no, it's not. Just shapeless conjecture and hypothesizing. If you bothered to do any investigating of your own, you'd learn this isn't all that uncommon. It's only in the limelight because of the corruption of Trump and the endless criminality of his stealing of the documents. I would believe that MAYBE Pence didn't know, but "If the Prosecutor isn't fired, you're not getting the money" Joe Biden, I highly doubt he didn't know. Biden may have forgotten about them, which would not be a shock at all, considering his memory is not all there, but I think he knew they were there, most of his life. You have quotes now, too? Quotes that have absolutely nothing to do with the documents? Woof. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 24, 2023 15:02:10 GMT -8
Apparently the Pense documents were still sealed and in his safe. This is just ridiculous. Meanwhile, every time WH spokesperson Jean-Pierre says “I will refer you to White House counsel” while answering questions, she makes her boss look even more guilty. No, the documents were not in the safe. Pence put them in the safe after the fact. Meanwhile, the White House press secretary (not a lawyer) isn't going to comment on an ongoing investigation. That does not indicate in any way guilt or innocence. Hard to be guilty when there's no crime. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 24, 2023 15:20:06 GMT -8
I would believe that MAYBE Pence didn't know, but "If the Prosecutor isn't fired, you're not getting the money" Joe Biden, I highly doubt he didn't know. Biden may have forgotten about them, which would not be a shock at all, considering his memory is not all there, but I think he knew they were there, most of his life. You have quotes now, too? Quotes that have absolutely nothing to do with the documents? Woof. Yeah, I do. It shows a lack of character. Pence doesn't have a history with that, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but I'm still on the fence with him. I knew you'd get into your defensive self with it. Very predictable. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 24, 2023 15:29:23 GMT -8
You have quotes now, too? Quotes that have absolutely nothing to do with the documents? Woof. Yeah, I do. It shows a lack of character. Pence doesn't have a history with that, do I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, bit I'm still on the fence with him. I knew you'd get into your defensive self with it. Very predictable. Oh boy....you opened that box. Brace yourself. www.hrc.org/press-releases/mike-pence-is-the-worst-vice-president-for-lgbtq-people-in-modern-historywww.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/13/politics/mike-pence-gay-rights-1990s/index.htmlAh, yes, Mike Pence...the embodiment of character, integrity and values. Your answer for everything is "attack, attack, attack." Maybe, just maybe....you should actually get a clue about what you're talking about before you go praising or vilifying people? I'm willing to bet (without looking) you have no idea what the quote you posted is actually attributed to. Parroting memes and colorful talking points isn't a wise choice if you want to be taken seriously. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 24, 2023 15:34:03 GMT -8
If Pence actually DIDN'T know he had them, then it's not a shock that he would say that. You also said that you believe Pence didn't know about them, so..... Nothing to brace for, actually. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 24, 2023 16:01:47 GMT -8
If Pence actually DIDN'T know he had them, then it's not a shock that he would say that. You also said that you believe Pence didn't know about them, so..... Nothing to brace for, actually. If...if...if. Sums it up. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 24, 2023 17:23:27 GMT -8
If Pence actually DIDN'T know he had them, then it's not a shock that he would say that. You also said that you believe Pence didn't know about them, so..... Nothing to brace for, actually. If...if...if. Sums it up. If, if, if with Biden. Sums it up. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 24, 2023 21:33:15 GMT -8
If...if...if. Sums it up. If, if, if with Biden. Sums it up. Nope, because I'm using actual facts as we know them instead of subjective opinion. (What we know right now = No intent) I understand you're a Republican, but come on. You didn't even address the point on Pence. You think he's such a beacon of truth, right? |
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 24, 2023 21:56:44 GMT -8
If, if, if with Biden. Sums it up. Nope, because I'm using actual facts as we know them instead of subjective opinion. (What we know right now = No intent) I understand you're a Republican, but come on. You didn't even address the point on Pence. You think he's such a beacon of truth, right? Wrong again. I'm Independent. I know you're a Liberal/ Democrat, but you do know they're still investigating Biden, right? So yes, if, if, if, pertains to him. And, we would need to trust the word of people I may have a hard time trusting. Key words you used in parentheses: (What we know RIGHT NOW). As far as Pence is concerned, like I said, if he didn't know about the Documents of his, which you have alluded to, it's understandable that he would call out Biden. Not a very good try at making him out to look bad in that particular department. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 25, 2023 10:47:25 GMT -8
So, if you go to Foxnews.com..the Pence story is way buried ...if you can find it. However, above that is a story of a single black woman with 3 children's who was grimly sucked into a jet engine on the tarmac. Some nice comments there..and other stories about crimes , incidents featuring black Americans. Anybody find this curious?.. and they allow some pretty hideous comments. The far right is so easy to figure out ..a 10-year old could do it.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 25, 2023 11:34:16 GMT -8
Nope, because I'm using actual facts as we know them instead of subjective opinion. (What we know right now = No intent) I understand you're a Republican, but come on. You didn't even address the point on Pence. You think he's such a beacon of truth, right? Wrong again. I'm Independent. I know you're a Liberal/ Democrat, but you do know they're still investigating Biden, right? So yes, if, if, if, pertains to him. And, we would need to trust the word of people I may have a hard time trusting. Key words you used in parentheses: (What we know RIGHT NOW). As far as Pence is concerned, like I said, if he didn't know about the Documents of his, which you have alluded to, it's understandable that he would call out Biden. Not a very good try at making him out to look bad in that particular department. Independents are usually just conservatives in disguise, at least in the circles I'm around. But yes, I realize they are investigating Biden. Like I said, there's zero evidence at this point to indicate he broke any federal statute. Regarding Pence, he's no prince. That would be obvious if you actually looked at any of the multiple sources I posted. You said plainly that he doesn't have a lack of integrity....which is pretty patently false. |
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Post by aardvark on Jan 25, 2023 14:21:31 GMT -8
SHOULD Pence run for President in 2024--he will have no chance.
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 25, 2023 14:41:24 GMT -8
SHOULD Pence run for President in 2024--he will have no chance. For sure. He has zero charisma, amongst other issues. It's DeSantis, or Trump representing the Republicans. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 25, 2023 14:56:07 GMT -8
SHOULD Pence run for President in 2024--he will have no chance. I don't know, Mother said he's pretty popular. (If you know...you know) |
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