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Post by sdsuball on Oct 15, 2022 23:50:21 GMT -8
I can't believe that the Padres won. I think that part of it is, the top of our rotation is so dominant when they are dialed in. Snell was bad the first half of the year. We lost a lot of games with the back of our rotation, Snell early in the year, Manaea in the second half, Clev a bit too. And then getting those bats at the trade deadline and getting Myers back at 1B was huge. Replacing Hosmer's awful defense with Myers/Drury/Bell was a godsend. The way our team is now constructed with really good pitching at the top of the rotation and bullpen, pair that with good defense and you can win a lot of close games. Over 162 games we had less depth then teams like the Dodgers and it showed.
Our bullpen has improved so much at the top end. Being able to get innings out of our starters, not give up that many runs, and then to have Hader finally dialed in, plus our other two flamethrowers in the pen. Definitely feels like Preller constructed this pen to beat specifically the Dodgers. Garcia, Suarez, Hader all hitting 100mph - the Dodgers are such good fastball hitters that you have to overpower them with the fastball to throw it without getting burned.
Definitely happy that we got them in a short series and not in a best of 7. For the Phillies series, you can go 1/4, 2/5, 3/7 with Darvish/Snell/Musgrove and some combination of the Bullpen, Clev and Manaea in G6. Or you go 1/5, 2/6, 3/7 with them and Game 4 is your Bullpen/Clev/Manaea game. Playing 5 days in a row Friday-Tuesday for Games 3-7 pretty much rules out using Darvish for 1/4/7 imo, and rules out going 3/6 with Musgrove.
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 16, 2022 0:19:34 GMT -8
The Dodgers have far more talent and much more depth than the Padres. This really is about them choking more than the Padres winning. The only way the Padres win this series is by the Dodgers choking. I'll give the Padres credit for playing well, but if the Dodgers played up to their abilities this series would already be over. They've gone cold at the wrong time. Is part of that because of how well the Padres pitchers are pitching? Absolutely. But the Dodgers have even better pitching. So one team is reaching their potential at the same time that the other team is falling far short of theirs. They are a better team, but it's nowhere near as lopsided as you'd like to pretend it is to justify the narrative. The series price was -165 on LA, just north of 62%. That gives the Padres a roughly 2 in 5 chance, hardly a foregone conclusion. As I've said over and over, the playoffs aren't about talent. They are about matchups, managerial strategy, execution and variance. It's why the Padres kicked the crap out of the Mets and it's why the Padres will finish this series and send LA home. Highlighting managerial strategy here. Just imagine it's in bold. Dave Roberts? Pulls his starter at 79 pitches. Dave Roberts? Put Alex Vesia in the game IN THE MIDDLE OF AN AT-BAT. He used the same high leverage relievers again, rushing Almonte into the game when he wasn't ready to go. He overmanaged. Again. Bob Melvin? Lets Musgrove go through six at 101 pitches. Didn't have his best stuff, but he trusted him to get through that part of the lineup. Put in Wilson, who admittedly just didn't have the command of the slider. Happens. But what does he do? Makes a change to Hill, who was NAILS and shuts down the threat, keeping the Padres in the game. Managers often are overrated in impact during the playoffs. They usually can't WIN you a game, but they sure can LOSE you a game. Dave Roberts was exposed once again on the national stage...and LA gets to watch from their couch for the rest of the postseason as a result.
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 16, 2022 5:15:29 GMT -8
I was shocked, and very happy at the same time when they pulled Anderson. He was dominating. It was almost as if local boy Dave Roberts was saying, "Ok, my hometown team San Diego," "I'm going to give you guys a chance to win it right here, and now." "It's been too long since you've been to the NLCS."
I don't know if Anderson was having an arm issue or not, but pulling him was a huge mistake. I'm sure the Padres confidence meter sky rocketed when they saw that he wasn't coming out to pitch again.
Also, it's rare when a pitcher gets pulled after already having thrown a pitch to a batter, but thank goodness Roberts threw us a bone there as well.
I'm sure Roberts will be roasted for those moves. I'd personally like to say, "Thank you Dave Roberts!!!"
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Post by aztecmusician on Oct 16, 2022 17:22:09 GMT -8
Great win for the Padres. I suspected this might happen, the Dodgers have been dominant for a long time, the pendulum of momentum was bound to eventually swing the Padres way.
Pitching was great with Cronenworth, Kim and Soto performing in the clutch.
I love it when SD has a winning team, people are generally in a great mood.
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Post by junior on Oct 16, 2022 18:02:55 GMT -8
Dodderball, must be a little like Martyball. Throw your starter for 5 innings - then no matter the outcome at that point - switch him out for the BP.
While it might be a viable strategy during the season - when all hands are needed on deck in the playoffs - results certainly showed that it was an ineffective strategy against the Padres. No way should that starter have come out when he did yesterday. He was in control of his pitches, the Padres, and the game. Things went to $#!+ as soon as Roberts made that change. It's a hard decision to defend given the results. They'll be crying about it all winter long - and deservedly so - in L.A.
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Post by junior on Oct 16, 2022 18:08:58 GMT -8
I totally get celebrating like it's NYE, but the video of Wil Myers in some pack-jammed Gaslamp bar buying rounds for fans - while certainly looking like fun and an epic way to celebrate what had just transpired - was probably not the best decision that could've been made given what we know about crowds, viral transmission, and the annual autumn bugfest.
I guess we'll find out just how poor a decision it might've been in about 2-5 days. Hopefully, no bugs were imbibed …
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 16, 2022 21:53:55 GMT -8
I totally get celebrating like it's NYE, but the video of Wil Myers in some pack-jammed Gaslamp bar buying rounds for fans - while certainly looking like fun and an epic way to celebrate what had just transpired - was probably not the best decision that could've been made given what we know about crowds, viral transmission, and the annual autumn bugfest. I guess we'll find out just how poor a decision it might've been in about 2-5 days. Hopefully, no bugs were imbibed … "Imbibed." Implementing that one into my vocabulary. Thanks.
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Post by azson on Oct 17, 2022 10:30:17 GMT -8
Unsung stat line from the series: Padres pitchers holding Mookie to a .143/.278/.214 slash. YUGE!
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Post by junior on Oct 17, 2022 11:44:26 GMT -8
Unsung stat line from the series: Padres pitchers holding Mookie to a .143/.278/.214 slash. YUGE! Combination of him choking and Padres' pitchers finding a way to make him do so. He killed them all season long. They must've found something telling in the exit data because he was fully controlled in the playoffs. They even caught him stealing - which might be the biggest story of all.
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Post by azson on Oct 17, 2022 12:44:35 GMT -8
Unsung stat line from the series: Padres pitchers holding Mookie to a .143/.278/.214 slash. YUGE! Combination of him choking and Padres' pitchers finding a way to make him do so. He killed them all season long. They must've found something telling in the exit data because he was fully controlled in the playoffs. They even caught him stealing - which might be the biggest story of all.Speaking of YUGE, Nola came up GARGANTUAN this series! How stoked and stressed that family's gonna be
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 18, 2022 14:40:14 GMT -8
I was shocked, and very happy at the same time when they pulled Anderson. He was dominating. It was almost as if local boy Dave Roberts was saying, "Ok, my hometown team San Diego," "I'm going to give you guys a chance to win it right here, and now." "It's been too long since you've been to the NLCS." I don't know if Anderson was having an arm issue or not, but pulling him was a huge mistake. I'm sure the Padres confidence meter sky rocketed when they saw that he wasn't coming out to pitch again. Also, it's rare when a pitcher gets pulled after already having thrown a pitch to a batter, but thank goodness Roberts threw us a bone there as well. I'm sure Roberts will be roasted for those moves. I'd personally like to say, "Thank you Dave Roberts!!!" Bonehead move of the night. In the old days, they never would have pulled a guy pitching like that in a post season game.
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 18, 2022 15:04:51 GMT -8
I was shocked, and very happy at the same time when they pulled Anderson. He was dominating. It was almost as if local boy Dave Roberts was saying, "Ok, my hometown team San Diego," "I'm going to give you guys a chance to win it right here, and now." "It's been too long since you've been to the NLCS." I don't know if Anderson was having an arm issue or not, but pulling him was a huge mistake. I'm sure the Padres confidence meter sky rocketed when they saw that he wasn't coming out to pitch again. Also, it's rare when a pitcher gets pulled after already having thrown a pitch to a batter, but thank goodness Roberts threw us a bone there as well. I'm sure Roberts will be roasted for those moves. I'd personally like to say, "Thank you Dave Roberts!!!" Bonehead move of the night. In the old days, they never would have pulled a guy pitching like that in a post season game. Remember way back when Randy Jones would routinely go 8-9 innings? I get it why they would change that since it's tough on the arm and relievers are so good nowadays, but that was a really bad decision to pull Anderson after only 75 pitches, and he was basically dominating. Thank you Dave Roberts!!!
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Post by azson on Oct 18, 2022 15:06:48 GMT -8
Bonehead move of the night. In the old days, they never would have pulled a guy pitching like that in a post season game. Remember way back when Randy Jones would routinely go 8-9 innings? I get it why they would change that since it's tough on the arm and relievers are so good nowadays, but that was a really bad decision to pull Anderson after only 75 pitches, and he was basically dominating. Thank you Dave Roberts!!! The great irony is that Dave & the Doyers have their 2020 asterisk championship thanks in large part to Kevin Cash making the exact same stupid decision in yanking Snell, i.e. the "third time through the lineup" over-analytic BS. You'd think Dave would have watched that unfold and thought, "I'll never make that mistake..."
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Post by junior on Oct 18, 2022 17:24:32 GMT -8
Padres hitters are just rolling over so far. They really need to make this Phillies pitcher work a little harder. Darvish can't carry them all by himself tonight.
And now Darvish gives up another HR. Two runs feels like a mountain tonight… The Phillies have home run threats that actually produce.
A bad night for the Padres hitters to go back into regular season mode.
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 18, 2022 17:58:09 GMT -8
Emotional, Dodged victory hangover? Maybe, but Wheeler is a Dealer and that has something to do with it.
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Post by junior on Oct 18, 2022 18:04:55 GMT -8
Emotional, Dodged victory hangover? Maybe, but Wheeler is a Dealer and that has something to do with it. Wheeler is controlling them, but this looks just like the same power outage that we've watched all season long. Three Two One last chance to turn it around. At least we'll get to see the end of the batting order that's been worthy of watching, but I have little faith that they'll do anything more than the rest of them have done so far tonight. A very inauspicious beginning to this series .. so far.
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Post by junior on Oct 18, 2022 18:44:16 GMT -8
Bell … still worthless.
Muchacho, not far behind tonight.
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 18, 2022 18:49:37 GMT -8
Josh Bell looks so bad swinging the bat. Bummer.
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Post by docmm on Oct 18, 2022 18:49:53 GMT -8
And the offensive Padre "offense" is back! Bob Melvin....PLEEEEZE don't use Bell for anything other than when you run out of pinch hitters.
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Post by docmm on Oct 18, 2022 18:53:29 GMT -8
Josh Bell looks so bad swinging the bat. Bummer. He swings like he's muscle-bound, so stiff and rigid. But I'd be remiss if I didn't call out the young supposed SuperStar Juan Soto. He hit .236 in the regular season since the trade and is hitting .250 with no HRs in the post season. Washington offered this guy $440,000,000 for 15 years and he turned it down because he didn't think it was enough. I'm sure we won't sign Bell and Soto is costing himself some money.
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