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Mar 25, 2022 16:07:34 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2022 16:07:34 GMT -8
He only got 6 million guaranteed. The larger problem is the team doesn't have the flexibility to do a deal like that with so little room under the CBT. Apparently he was looking for Joc Pederson money. Not gonna happen. ...They signed for the same exact amount.
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Mar 25, 2022 16:27:47 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2022 16:27:47 GMT -8
Apparently he was looking for Joc Pederson money. Not gonna happen. ...They signed for the same exact amount. And, the Padres weren't going to give him that. Rightfully so.
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Mar 25, 2022 16:46:22 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2022 16:46:22 GMT -8
...They signed for the same exact amount. And, the Padres weren't going to give him that. Rightfully so. They literally can't. They have somewhere in the neighborhood of $8M to spend for the rest of the season as of now without going into the tax - They are essentially handcuffed at this point unless they can shed salary. They have to give themselves flexibility at the deadline. Pham is easily worth the contract he got from Cincinnati, I bet he does well in that park. Profar isn't the answer, unfortunately.
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Mar 25, 2022 16:56:05 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2022 16:56:05 GMT -8
And, the Padres weren't going to give him that. Rightfully so. They literally can't. They have somewhere in the neighborhood of $8M to spend for the rest of the season as of now without going into the tax - They are essentially handcuffed at this point unless they can shed salary. They have to give themselves flexibility at the deadline. Pham is easily worth the contract he got from Cincinnati, I bet he does well in that park. If he can reinvent who he was, then he'll be worth it. Hitter friendly park in Cincy will help his chances.
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Mar 25, 2022 18:15:15 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2022 18:15:15 GMT -8
They literally can't. They have somewhere in the neighborhood of $8M to spend for the rest of the season as of now without going into the tax - They are essentially handcuffed at this point unless they can shed salary. They have to give themselves flexibility at the deadline. Pham is easily worth the contract he got from Cincinnati, I bet he does well in that park. If he can reinvent who he was, then he'll be worth it. Hitter friendly park in Cincy will help his chances. The fact he could even play at all last year is pretty remarkable given the injuries he sustained. Hope he has a good season.
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Mar 25, 2022 18:30:36 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2022 18:30:36 GMT -8
If he can reinvent who he was, then he'll be worth it. Hitter friendly park in Cincy will help his chances. The fact he could even play at all last year is pretty remarkable given the injuries he sustained. Hope he has a good season. I hope he does as well. He's a good guy. He'll have a great chance to, while hitting in that ball park. At the same time, I think Hosmer bounces back, and has a good season as well.
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Mar 25, 2022 18:53:19 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2022 18:53:19 GMT -8
The fact he could even play at all last year is pretty remarkable given the injuries he sustained. Hope he has a good season. I hope he does as well. He's a good guy. He'll have a great chance to, while hitting in that ball park. At the same time, I think Hosmer bounces back, and has a good season as well. Yeah, I'm not optimistic there at all. His attitude continues to be cancerous and the desire to actually improve isn't there. Hopefully Voit takes some of his reps defensively and they minimize exposure to lefties.
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Mar 25, 2022 19:00:41 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2022 19:00:41 GMT -8
I hope he does as well. He's a good guy. He'll have a great chance to, while hitting in that ball park. At the same time, I think Hosmer bounces back, and has a good season as well. Yeah, I'm not optimistic there at all. His attitude continues to be cancerous and the desire to actually improve isn't there. Hopefully Voit takes some of his reps defensively and they minimize exposure to lefties. So, you're saying he's a cancer in the clubhouse?
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Mar 25, 2022 19:44:22 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2022 19:44:22 GMT -8
Yeah, I'm not optimistic there at all. His attitude continues to be cancerous and the desire to actually improve isn't there. Hopefully Voit takes some of his reps defensively and they minimize exposure to lefties. So, you're saying he's a cancer in the clubhouse? That's explicitly what I'm saying, yes. His comments just a few days ago taking a swipe at his own front office is more of the same.
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Mar 25, 2022 21:22:04 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2022 21:22:04 GMT -8
So, you're saying he's a cancer in the clubhouse? That's explicitly what I'm saying, yes. His comments just a few days ago taking a swipe at his own front office is more of the same. Nahhh. You're just stirring the pot, because you don't like him personally, which you made clear last year. He may not like some people in the front office, but the last I heard, the front office doesn't play on the field or sit in the dugout, etc .... As far as his relationship with his teammates, it's a good one.
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Mar 25, 2022 21:35:33 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2022 21:35:33 GMT -8
That's explicitly what I'm saying, yes. His comments just a few days ago taking a swipe at his own front office is more of the same. Nahhh. You're just stirring the pot, because you don't like him personally, which you made clear last year. He may not like some people in the front office, but the last I heard, the front office doesn't play on the field or sit in the dugout, etc .... As far as his relationship with his teammates, it's a good one. Yeah, because my goal is to stir the pot on AztecMesa....for what reason, exactly? The point continually evades you. Bob Melvin is an extension of the front office, John. AJ Preller and Bob Melvin, you know....talk. Melvin works for Preller. Having your overpaid first baaeman criticize the guy who signed him when his performance has been completely and utterly awful for four years is NOT a good thing. Did we watch the same team last season implode after the trade deadline? Mere coincidence that it happened, right? Like this isn't a breaking news alert...it's common knowledge on him. He showed up to camp again out of shape, he's shown zero desire to change his process and he's going to be 33 in December. They literally can't get anyone to take him because his contract is an albatross.
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Mar 25, 2022 21:47:02 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2022 21:47:02 GMT -8
Nahhh. You're just stirring the pot, because you don't like him personally, which you made clear last year. He may not like some people in the front office, but the last I heard, the front office doesn't play on the field or sit in the dugout, etc .... As far as his relationship with his teammates, it's a good one. Yeah, because my goal is to stir the pot on AztecMesa....for what reason, exactly? The point continually evades you. Bob Melvin is an extension of the front office, John. AJ Preller and Bob Melvin, you know....talk. Melvin works for Preller. Having your overpaid first baaeman criticize the guy who signed him when his performance has been completely and utterly awful for four years is NOT a good thing. Did we watch the same team last season implode after the trade deadline? Like this isn't a breaking news alert...it's common knowledge on him. YOU can't actually believe that these professional players, and Bob Melvin can't separate an issue a player has with a front office person, from their own relationship with that player, could you? I hope you CAN..... Give these professionals more credit. They deserve it. Sheesh. What I'm talking about is his clubhouse relationship with the players at game time. That is absolutely fine, and that's what's important. You can try and make it more out of it than it is, but it won't work.
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Mar 25, 2022 21:58:30 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2022 21:58:30 GMT -8
Yeah, because my goal is to stir the pot on AztecMesa....for what reason, exactly? The point continually evades you. Bob Melvin is an extension of the front office, John. AJ Preller and Bob Melvin, you know....talk. Melvin works for Preller. Having your overpaid first baaeman criticize the guy who signed him when his performance has been completely and utterly awful for four years is NOT a good thing. Did we watch the same team last season implode after the trade deadline? Like this isn't a breaking news alert...it's common knowledge on him. YOU can't actually believe that these professional players, and Bob Melvin can't separate an issue a player has with a front office person, from their own relationship with that player, could you? I hope you CAN..... Give these professionals more credit. They deserve it. Sheesh. What I'm talking about is his clubhouse relationship with the players at game time. That is absolutely fine, and that's what's important. You can try and make it more out of it than it is, but it won't work. I'll ask again - Did you see what happened at the deadline last season? They had a veteran staff last season, outside of Tingler...and it failed miserably. I think Bob Melvin is awesome - I think Eric Hosmer is going to be a cancer regardless of who is steering the ship, based on his actions to this point. Hell, he got into a clubhouse confrontation with a relief pitcher last season. I don't know where you get your news, but what's important is the clubhouse dynamic surrounding him....and it's decidedly not good. The only reason he hasn't been rocketed to the sun is because no team wants him unless the Padres give up one of their top two prospects AND eat his entire deal. It's that bad.
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Mar 25, 2022 22:10:07 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2022 22:10:07 GMT -8
YOU can't actually believe that these professional players, and Bob Melvin can't separate an issue a player has with a front office person, from their own relationship with that player, could you? I hope you CAN..... Give these professionals more credit. They deserve it. Sheesh. What I'm talking about is his clubhouse relationship with the players at game time. That is absolutely fine, and that's what's important. You can try and make it more out of it than it is, but it won't work. I'll ask again - Did you see what happened at the deadline last season? They had a veteran staff last season, outside of Tingler...and it failed miserably. I think Bob Melvin is awesome - I think Eric Hosmer is going to be a cancer regardless of who is steering the ship, based on his actions to this point. Hell, he got into a clubhouse confrontation with a relief pitcher last season. I don't know where you get your news, but what's important is the clubhouse dynamic surrounding him....and it's decidedly not good. The only reason he hasn't been rocketed to the sun is because no team wants him unless the Padres give up one of their top two prospects AND eat his entire deal. It's that bad. Yes, I saw what happened at the deadline last season. I saw a number of injuries, a fight between two star players, injuries to players who REPLACED those injured players, and a pitching staff decimated by injuries, amongst many other things. Are you discounting the injuries to that great staff you mentioned? What I did not witness, and what did not happen is Eric Hosmer causing the collapse. That's completely laughable, and is obviously coming from your biased hate of Hosmer. It's that obvious, Ryan. Aren't you better than that?
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Mar 25, 2022 22:38:41 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 25, 2022 22:38:41 GMT -8
I'll ask again - Did you see what happened at the deadline last season? They had a veteran staff last season, outside of Tingler...and it failed miserably. I think Bob Melvin is awesome - I think Eric Hosmer is going to be a cancer regardless of who is steering the ship, based on his actions to this point. Hell, he got into a clubhouse confrontation with a relief pitcher last season. I don't know where you get your news, but what's important is the clubhouse dynamic surrounding him....and it's decidedly not good. The only reason he hasn't been rocketed to the sun is because no team wants him unless the Padres give up one of their top two prospects AND eat his entire deal. It's that bad. Yes, I saw what happened at the deadline last season. I saw a number of injuries, a fight between two star players, injuries to players who REPLACED those injured players, and a pitching staff decimated by injuries, amongst many other things. Are you discounting the injuries to that great staff you mentioned? What I did not witness, and what did not happen is Eric Hosmer causing the collapse. That's completely laughable, and is obviously coming from your biased hate of Hosmer. It's that obvious, Ryan. Aren't you better than that? *I* have nothing to do with it. It was widely reported by numerous sources that there was clubhouse dissent when Hosmer's name was being discussed at the deadline with various teams. That turmoil led to some boiled-over frustration where more than one player went to the front office to complain about the clubhouse and how it was being handled. If you want to pretend that Hosmer had no part in that, that's up to you. The swipe at Preller just a few days ago - "If this was Kansas City, it would be different" is another example of his behavior. After he produces another terrible season here, the team will have no choice but to cut ties, as he gets full no-trade rights afterwards.
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Post by sdsuball on Mar 25, 2022 22:58:40 GMT -8
Pham gone. No big loss there. He was looking for way too much money. He only got 6 million guaranteed. The larger problem is the team doesn't have the flexibility to do a deal like that with so little room under the CBT. Yeah true. But you know, Pham didn't have that good of an attitude in September. When we were losing he was already talking about the off season and free agency. Don't mind a guy like that finding another team. Regarding Hosmer, they can do some platooning with him and Voit for now, or they could cut him.
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Post by TPAztec on Mar 25, 2022 23:10:12 GMT -8
Pham gone. No big loss there. He was looking for way too much money. Pham was absolutely brutal. Would rather stick Alfaro out in left.
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Mar 25, 2022 23:38:17 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2022 23:38:17 GMT -8
He only got 6 million guaranteed. The larger problem is the team doesn't have the flexibility to do a deal like that with so little room under the CBT. Yeah true. But you know, Pham didn't have that good of an attitude in September. When we were losing he was already talking about the off season and free agency. Don't mind a guy like that finding another team. Regarding Hosmer, they can do some platooning with him and Voit for now, or they could cut him. Yeah, Pham was constantly, visually upset. That's not good for the locker room. There's a poster here (Ryan) who will only blame Hosmer for dissention and not the obvious disgruntled Pham, or a huge fight by the 2 stars, etc, because he simply doesn't like the guy, or his views in life. Not good if you do any journalism and can't set that aside.
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Mar 25, 2022 23:39:29 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 25, 2022 23:39:29 GMT -8
Yes, I saw what happened at the deadline last season. I saw a number of injuries, a fight between two star players, injuries to players who REPLACED those injured players, and a pitching staff decimated by injuries, amongst many other things. Are you discounting the injuries to that great staff you mentioned? What I did not witness, and what did not happen is Eric Hosmer causing the collapse. That's completely laughable, and is obviously coming from your biased hate of Hosmer. It's that obvious, Ryan. Aren't you better than that? *I* have nothing to do with it. It was widely reported by numerous sources that there was clubhouse dissent when Hosmer's name was being discussed at the deadline with various teams. That turmoil led to some boiled-over frustration where more than one player went to the front office to complain about the clubhouse and how it was being handled. If you want to pretend that Hosmer had no part in that, that's up to you. The swipe at Preller just a few days ago - "If this was Kansas City, it would be different" is another example of his behavior. After he produces another terrible season here, the team will have no choice but to cut ties, as he gets full no-trade rights afterwards. Yeah, what sort of dissension? I know Machado didn't want him to go.
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Mar 26, 2022 12:11:38 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 26, 2022 12:11:38 GMT -8
Pham gone. No big loss there. He was looking for way too much money. Pham was absolutely brutal. Would rather stick Alfaro out in left. No...we really, really don't.
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