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Post by aztecnails on Nov 20, 2021 16:55:35 GMT -8
Time for a new thread for the Patrick Henry Community. With all the great players and good teams that have passed through this school, a section championship is the one thing missing. That changes Friday at 1 p.m. as Henry plays University City for the championship. This winner goes to the state tournament.
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Nov 20, 2021 23:18:11 GMT -8
It used to be divisions were based on school enrollment. Now it looks like they're based on prior year ranking. With the old system you'd be competing with schools around your size. Now the good programs compete against each other, as do the inferior ones. Not sure how meaningful a lower division championship is.
But good luck to Patrick Henry.
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Post by Obsidian Edge on Nov 21, 2021 8:03:23 GMT -8
It used to be divisions were based on school enrollment. Now it looks like they're based on prior year ranking. With the old system you'd be competing with schools around your size. Now the good programs compete against each other, as do the inferior ones. Not sure how meaningful a lower division championship is. But good luck to Patrick Henry. Wait what? Divisional playoffs are based on ranking and not enrollments? So DIV 1, 2 , 3 is based on how some committee ranks your school? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2021 13:32:33 GMT -8
Really hope Aztec stadium is used for the HS championship games next year, if the turf allows for it. Will be a very good recruiting tool for the local guys
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Nov 21, 2021 23:02:45 GMT -8
It used to be divisions were based on school enrollment. Now it looks like they're based on prior year ranking. With the old system you'd be competing with schools around your size. Now the good programs compete against each other, as do the inferior ones. Not sure how meaningful a lower division championship is. But good luck to Patrick Henry. Wait what? Divisional playoffs are based on ranking and not enrollments? So DIV 1, 2 , 3 is based on how some committee ranks your school? That's how I interpret it. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TWCD0PBGJS_sO3Q3EXPB7bTLy_1ai0s0QVNln5yuTtI/edit#gid=1147990626 |
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Post by Obsidian Edge on Nov 22, 2021 4:20:30 GMT -8
It looks like it might be a blended system? But that's still ridiculous. Any weight based on perceived ranking penalizes overperforming low enrollment schools and rewards underperforming high enrollers. It should be entirely based on enrollment. |
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Post by aardvark on Nov 24, 2021 13:04:05 GMT -8
Time for a new thread for the Patrick Henry Community. With all the great players and good teams that have passed through this school, a section championship is the one thing missing. That changes Friday at 1 p.m. as Henry plays University City for the championship. This winner goes to the state tournament. I'm guessing here, but I think that PHHS is 0-5 in football championship games. I really hope that changes this week. |
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Post by aztecnails on Nov 27, 2021 3:07:09 GMT -8
Update: PHHS 49 U.C. 21. Now onto the state tournament and hopefully a home game on a Saturday or 2. First time CIF football section champs. Other championship appearances happened in 1971,1973,1974 and 1994. GO PATRIOTS, from class of 1984.
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Post by aztecnails on Nov 28, 2021 15:39:21 GMT -8
Good news is the Henry Patriots will host Birmingham Patriots of Lake Balboa near Van Nuys Saturday at 6 p.m. This winner goes to the state 3A division final.
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Post by dshawfan on Dec 8, 2021 11:01:05 GMT -8
It used to be divisions were based on school enrollment. Now it looks like they're based on prior year ranking. With the old system you'd be competing with schools around your size. Now the good programs compete against each other, as do the inferior ones. Not sure how meaningful a lower division championship is. But good luck to Patrick Henry. Wait what? Divisional playoffs are based on ranking and not enrollments? So DIV 1, 2 , 3 is based on how some committee ranks your school? Yes, several years ago SDCIF moved away from enrollment based divisions to ones based on a 5 year rolling average. Each year the numbers go into the algorithm and they line everyone up from highest average to lowest average and then start separating schools into D1, D2, etc etc. Now I retired after 2017 FB season, so they may have altered it a bit. I was a HS coach when this was enacted. It has its good points and bad points. I loved competing against the Cathedrals and El Capitans of the D2 baseball world; we never beat them, but we had some great battles. OTOH, in 2017 we won a CIF Title in D3. I can assure you that players and coaches both think an awful lot of that Championship ring! |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 9, 2021 12:03:43 GMT -8
Wait what? Divisional playoffs are based on ranking and not enrollments? So DIV 1, 2 , 3 is based on how some committee ranks your school? Yes, several years ago SDCIF moved away from enrollment based divisions to ones based on a 5 year rolling average. Each year the numbers go into the algorithm and they line everyone up from highest average to lowest average and then start separating schools into D1, D2, etc etc. Now I retired after 2017 FB season, so they may have altered it a bit. I was a HS coach when this was enacted. It has its good points and bad points. I loved competing against the Cathedrals and El Capitans of the D2 baseball world; we never beat them, but we had some great battles. OTOH, in 2017 we won a CIF Title in D3. I can assure you that players and coaches both think an awful lot of that Championship ring! Good to see you back posting. |
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Post by dshawfan on Dec 9, 2021 14:41:07 GMT -8
Yes, several years ago SDCIF moved away from enrollment based divisions to ones based on a 5 year rolling average. Each year the numbers go into the algorithm and they line everyone up from highest average to lowest average and then start separating schools into D1, D2, etc etc. Now I retired after 2017 FB season, so they may have altered it a bit. I was a HS coach when this was enacted. It has its good points and bad points. I loved competing against the Cathedrals and El Capitans of the D2 baseball world; we never beat them, but we had some great battles. OTOH, in 2017 we won a CIF Title in D3. I can assure you that players and coaches both think an awful lot of that Championship ring! Good to see you back posting. Been awhile, spend most of my time on the conference board. |
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Post by aztecnails on Dec 11, 2021 16:13:20 GMT -8
Congrats to Cathedral Catholic, Mater Dei and Scripps Ranch Highs for helping San Diego County win football state championships.
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