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Post by Aztec Empire on Nov 12, 2021 4:38:36 GMT -8
Deciding not to attend because of work and ticket holders being banned from attending because of a medical decision only are two different things. My comment above was to get the schools to allow all ticket holders to attend games and cancel this policy that is hurting in-person attendance. I looked at the game photos and saw some of the empty seats. The Fremont Street Experience in Vegas allows anyone to attend vaccinated or not vaccinated. It was wall-to-wall people on the First Friday in October. There were no more empty seats this season than any game two any other season...also...once inside...mask were optional...a lot of people had them on...and a lot had them off...nobody tripped...all in attendance were reassured that the person sitting next...above...and below were less likely to kill them than a vaccinated-optional attendance...that's why everyone was relaxed and enjoyed the game.... How weird that Cal Berkeley can’t play their game against USC due to the number of positive cases despite the team being fully vaccinated. 🤔
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Nov 12, 2021 7:18:56 GMT -8
There were no more empty seats this season than any game two any other season...also...once inside...mask were optional...a lot of people had them on...and a lot had them off...nobody tripped...all in attendance were reassured that the person sitting next...above...and below were less likely to kill them than a vaccinated-optional attendance...that's why everyone was relaxed and enjoyed the game.... How weird that Cal Berkeley can’t play their game against USC due to the number of positive cases despite the team being fully vaccinated. 🤔 What does Cal have to do with the protocols of getting in Viejas? The Possibility of COVID-19 after Vaccination: Breakthrough Infections"COVID-19 vaccines are effective at preventing infection, serious illness, and death. Most people who get COVID-19 are unvaccinated. However, since vaccines are not 100% effective at preventing infection, some people who are fully vaccinated will still get COVID-19." Fully vaccinated people with a vaccine breakthrough infection are less likely to develop serious illness than those who are unvaccinated and get COVID-19. Even when fully vaccinated people develop symptoms, they tend to be less severe symptoms than in unvaccinated people. This means they are much less likely to be hospitalized or die than people who are not vaccinated. People who get vaccine breakthrough infections can be contagious.www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/effectiveness/why-measure-effectiveness/breakthrough-cases.html
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Post by aztecnails on Nov 12, 2021 10:27:17 GMT -8
Soccer players and other athletes around the world are suffering cardiac arrest and collapsing during games. Some are dropping dead. The missing and/or not reported info is vaccination status. Brand New Tube has a video from Chaka titled What's Going On from 11-09-21 dealing with athletes collapsing and dying on the field with cardiac arrest. Dr. Sohrab Lutchmedial died Monday in his sleep, two weeks after getting the booster covid vaccination. The vaccinated are more likely to be hospitalized and suffer death than the unvaccinated as backed up by the numbers from Vermont.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 10:53:01 GMT -8
I got the first 2 covid vax in Feb-March. Hospitalized on Aug 28th for gallstone pancreatitis. They covid tested me in the e/r upon arrival via ambulance and I tested positive for covid. I had absolutely ZERO symptomology for covid and was shocked I tested positive. It totally screwed up the protocols for my gallstone pancreatitis which resulted in an 8 day hospitalization. Had I not had my vax and suffered full blown covid, I don't know if I would have made it out alive. I lost an organ during my hospitalization but may have lost my life w/o the vax. I have since gotten my booster and am glad I did.
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Post by hoobs on Nov 12, 2021 14:33:16 GMT -8
Soccer players and other athletes around the world are suffering cardiac arrest and collapsing during games. Some are dropping dead. The missing and/or not reported info is vaccination status. Brand New Tube has a video from Chaka titled What's Going On from 11-09-21 dealing with athletes collapsing and dying on the field with cardiac arrest. Dr. Sohrab Lutchmedial died Monday in his sleep, two weeks after getting the booster covid vaccination. The vaccinated are more likely to be hospitalized and suffer death than the unvaccinated as backed up by the numbers from Vermont. Utter and complete bull crap. Top to bottom... just a mess of disinformation and totally incorrect data (& analysis).
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Post by aztecfred on Nov 12, 2021 14:48:14 GMT -8
And it starts again! Round n round we go....
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Post by azman on Nov 12, 2021 17:10:21 GMT -8
Soccer players and other athletes around the world are suffering cardiac arrest and collapsing during games. Some are dropping dead. The missing and/or not reported info is vaccination status. Brand New Tube has a video from Chaka titled What's Going On from 11-09-21 dealing with athletes collapsing and dying on the field with cardiac arrest. Dr. Sohrab Lutchmedial died Monday in his sleep, two weeks after getting the booster covid vaccination. The vaccinated are more likely to be hospitalized and suffer death than the unvaccinated as backed up by the numbers from Vermont. “Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
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Post by standiego on Nov 12, 2021 17:46:18 GMT -8
Can we compare where we were last year and where we are today .
Are Aztec fans able to attend games - are students able to attend class - can many people go back to work - YES !
Yes there are minor adjustments that we are all doing to prevent the spread of Covid . There are inconveniences that none of us like but may have to do .
IMO it is well worth it to cheer on the Aztecs and try to slow the spread and symptoms of Covid - COVID continues to spread and people are still passing away or become Long Haulers from COVID . To those vaccinated those conditions are not as bad . The chance of Severe Covid is more likely to happen to those Not vaccinated .
The topic is Covid Protocols at the V - NOT another opportunity to present posters to provide their Mis or Dis Information . As we can see they are doing it again - Deflection .
If people can not stay on topic then need to stop the posts
Very pleased to be able to abide by the protocols so I have the opportunity to attend Aztec events in person - by the way so are the athletes -
Go Aztecs
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Post by aztecnails on Nov 13, 2021 13:01:39 GMT -8
The University of California football team had 44 fully jabbed players test positive for covid causing the USC game to be postponed. The Dr. Sohrab Lutchmedial death was reported by the regular media. What I said is confirmed by media reports and game day videos (soccer). I want to go to games that I paid but can't until this game day entrance policy is reversed. The same jabbed athletes who are getting covid and/or having cardiac arrest during games after getting the jab.
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Post by Aztec Empire on Nov 27, 2021 0:59:54 GMT -8
How weird that Cal Berkeley can’t play their game against USC due to the number of positive cases despite the team being fully vaccinated. 🤔 What does Cal have to do with the protocols of getting in Viejas? The Possibility of COVID-19 after Vaccination: Breakthrough Infections"COVID-19 vaccines are effective at preventing infection, serious illness, and death. Most people who get COVID-19 are unvaccinated. However, since vaccines are not 100% effective at preventing infection, some people who are fully vaccinated will still get COVID-19." Fully vaccinated people with a vaccine breakthrough infection are less likely to develop serious illness than those who are unvaccinated and get COVID-19. Even when fully vaccinated people develop symptoms, they tend to be less severe symptoms than in unvaccinated people. This means they are much less likely to be hospitalized or die than people who are not vaccinated. People who get vaccine breakthrough infections can be contagious.www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/effectiveness/why-measure-effectiveness/breakthrough-cases.htmlSee the key here is they don’t tell you the true effectiveness of the vaccine over the 6 month period and how it doesn’t protect against future strains the way natural immunity can. Notice how they just say “it isn’t 100% effective?” Exactly how much less effective? My point is that people can spread and shed covid easily while vaccinated. The CAL game clearly shows that. The CDC even admitted vaccinated individuals could shed delta just as much as an unvaccinated person. Look at data from heavily vaccinated countries like Israel if you want to see how likely breakthrough cases are. The idea of blaming the unvaccinated for preventing the end of the pandemic is ludicrous and short sighted. The idea of segregating people or coercing vaccination is entirely based on pseudoscience and fear. If all it really does is potentially lower your chance of hospitalization (depending how many months in you are), we need to get the notion out of our heads that full mass vaccination will do anything to slow the spread.
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