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Post by junior on Sept 28, 2021 19:28:58 GMT -8
Baseball's a business, and it's survival of the fittest.
I already know the list is longer than what the reality will be, but let's start right at the top with: (those in bold must go)
AJ Preller
Jayce Tingler
Bobby Dickerson
Damion Easley
Ben Fritz
Wayne Kirby
In all cases, the "proof is in the pudding", or "what can brown do for you?"
Position Players? Goodbye to:
Eric Hosmer - just not getting any job done and getting paid far too much to do it.
Jake Marisnick - not playing, not hitting.
Tommy Pham - too streaky - really need a better corner starting
Wil Myers - also far too streaky offensively - and too expensive for what they get from him.
Plenty of Pitchers need to go, too:
Vince Velasquez - thanks for the effort - I guess. DFA
Emelio Festus Pagan - too many home runs and control issues - figure it out on some other team
Tim Hill - ditto
Ross Detwiler - who? He has a good handle on being DFA'd. Be like Nike and Just Do It.
Austin Adams - One pitch that can't be hit, unless it hits you first… of course, you trade him and Padres will be his next victims.
Javy Guerra - failed experiment. Better arms will be available. DFA
Matt Strahm - just plain failed, get well on another roster. Paying people to live on semi-permanent sick leave is ridiculous.
Chris Paddack - hate to put him on the list, but he's another one who just never really rises much above a level of mediocrity that a championship team really doesn't need.
Dinelson Lamet - he's had plenty of time to get his act together, why waste any more time? Promises, promises.
Ryan Weathers - can't watch this mess any longer. Can't locate pitches, can't throw anything but fastballs.
Yes, I'd say so long to about half of this losing baseball team - and I wouldn't look back. I'd still be thrilled to see just half of those guys gone by Spring '22. And including the 3 pitchers should be DFA'd, it could happen - Padres just need to find new homes for 3 more players... packaging a few of those on the list could probably bring in some better players for next season.
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Post by aztecmusician on Sept 29, 2021 21:54:18 GMT -8
The Pads need to be careful who they let go…….recently traded Luis Urias, Cal Quantrill, Eric Lauer, Hunter Renfroe, Ty France and yes the Franimal all had pretty decent to very good years. I would keep Lamet and Myers, discard the rest along with Pagan.
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Post by docmm on Sept 30, 2021 5:12:35 GMT -8
PAGAN!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by oldie on Oct 1, 2021 20:35:29 GMT -8
cronenworth will be traded for a 44 year old pitcher who was mentioned for a cy young in 2012.
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 1, 2021 20:38:19 GMT -8
The bulk of the roster will return.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 7:09:45 GMT -8
The Athletic's Dennis Lin and Ken Rosenthal just dropped a pretty interesting "inside the Padres collapse" piece, on their front page. theathletic.com/2858560/2021/10/01/inside-the-padres-collapse-manager-gm-under-scrutiny-after-club-crumbles-down-the-stretch/---- "Preller declined comment for this story, as did Seidler, saying they would speak publicly after the season ends. Some of Preller’s chief lieutenants took exception with another complaint, that he frowns upon dissent. He often opens meetings, they said, by telling staffers he wants their opinion right then rather than after a decision is made, and routinely solicits input from employees at all levels, asking for their “takes.” “A.J. listens to everything,” said Logan White, a senior advisor to Preller and the Padres’ director of player personnel. “I don’t know anybody that listens to more $#!+ than that guy does.” However, one former staffer said, “Every one of us has a blind side, a weakness we don’t see. You’d better get people around you to cover those weaknesses. And what he is consistently doing is removing the people who tell him he has a weakness and going to people who will not speak back to him about his weaknesses.” |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 7:31:51 GMT -8
"But, if Preller does make a change, would he be willing to cede some of the control he has exerted over an entire organization? And would an accomplished manager such as Bruce Bochy, Buck Showalter or Ron Washington, the other finalist to replace Green in 2019, be willing to helm the Padres if their authority would be in question? Multiple people expressed doubt that Bochy, who managed the Padres from 1995 to 2006 and led them to their last World Series appearance in ’98, would come out of retirement to work for a GM as hands-on as Preller.
“There’s no way f****** Bochy goes in and deals with all that,” said one former big-league manager. “There’s no way.”
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Post by junior on Oct 2, 2021 8:52:45 GMT -8
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Post by junior on Oct 3, 2021 12:23:57 GMT -8
Dinelson Lame-T with another lame-ass appearance. Time for this clown to fish or cut bait.
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Post by sdsuball on Oct 3, 2021 13:23:59 GMT -8
"But, if Preller does make a change, would he be willing to cede some of the control he has exerted over an entire organization? And would an accomplished manager such as Bruce Bochy, Buck Showalter or Ron Washington, the other finalist to replace Green in 2019, be willing to helm the Padres if their authority would be in question? Multiple people expressed doubt that Bochy, who managed the Padres from 1995 to 2006 and led them to their last World Series appearance in ’98, would come out of retirement to work for a GM as hands-on as Preller. “There’s no way f****** Bochy goes in and deals with all that,” said one former big-league manager. “There’s no way.” Conveniently AJP is moving out of the GM's chair after this season... |
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Post by aardvark on Oct 3, 2021 15:18:47 GMT -8
"But, if Preller does make a change, would he be willing to cede some of the control he has exerted over an entire organization? And would an accomplished manager such as Bruce Bochy, Buck Showalter or Ron Washington, the other finalist to replace Green in 2019, be willing to helm the Padres if their authority would be in question? Multiple people expressed doubt that Bochy, who managed the Padres from 1995 to 2006 and led them to their last World Series appearance in ’98, would come out of retirement to work for a GM as hands-on as Preller. “There’s no way f****** Bochy goes in and deals with all that,” said one former big-league manager. “There’s no way.” Conveniently AJP is moving out of the GM's chair after this season... Source? |
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Post by sdsuball on Oct 3, 2021 21:38:17 GMT -8
Conveniently AJP is moving out of the GM's chair after this season... Source? No official source, but Ryan did mention it might happen on another thread recently. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 4, 2021 9:00:01 GMT -8
No official source, but Ryan did mention it might happen on another thread recently. I said there's a possibility, which came from a couple of different people I talked to. Definitely not an absolute certainty. He's the President of Baseball Operations right now. We'll see what happens. Dave Cameron left the organization, which stings. |
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Post by junior on Oct 4, 2021 12:46:45 GMT -8
My guess is that nothing's going to be announced about firings until after the Wild Card games, and maybe not even then. A house cleaning like the one the Padres are almost certain to embark on will take way too much attention away from the currently popular post-season darlings and news about them. Not sure MLB would be down with that…
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2021 7:03:39 GMT -8
No official source, but Ryan did mention it might happen on another thread recently. I said there's a possibility, which came from a couple of different people I talked to. Definitely not an absolute certainty. He's the President of Baseball Operations right now. We'll see what happens. Dave Cameron left the organization, which stings. As did Preston Mattingly, who is very highly regarded as a young up and comer. Now, in his case-- he got an external promotion. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 6, 2021 11:58:09 GMT -8
I said there's a possibility, which came from a couple of different people I talked to. Definitely not an absolute certainty. He's the President of Baseball Operations right now. We'll see what happens. Dave Cameron left the organization, which stings. As did Preston Mattingly, who is very highly regarded as a young up and comer. Now, in his case-- he got an external promotion. Yeah, Preston's a very bright person with a bright future. Very well regarded in terms of his preparational skills. |
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Post by junior on Oct 6, 2021 14:06:37 GMT -8
Seems like there must be more dissension in the "analytics" dept than we might have expected … either that, or they were asked to step aside. Further down the line it goes, and where it stops…
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