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Post by North County Aztec on Feb 17, 2022 16:46:39 GMT -8
October 2016-February 2017
California averaged 27.81 inches of precipitation, the highest average since such records began being kept in 1895 In the last 20 years 13 were below normal 7 above normal per USC data. Few would be 1 or 2 perhaps 3 I'll even give you 4, but not 7 2004-2005 22.58 above season average. 2017 was a wet year..lucky for us, since much of the post 2000 years have been drier than normal. California doesn't average rainfall. Its regional. For example Poway got 0.39 inches 2 days ago but everything north of LA got nothing. Northern California should get more than us. Yes, my daughter got 5.3 inches at Sacramento in one day back in December..their alltime record...but almost nothing since. Anyway, the scientific community is telling us we are in a megadrought. They have ways of using tree ring data from trees that have been alive 1500 years. Tree rings do not lie re: precipitation/ wetness in a given year. Of course we have actual measurements since the mid 1800's. If you are still in doubt, visit vegetation / tree communities throughout the state and you can see the evidence with your eyes. For example, pinyon mountain in Anza-Borrego has a pinyon pine forest that has been there for 2,000 years. There are virtually no human impacts up there, such as fire suppression etc. Its 90% dead. I would guess some service collects California average rainfall, I was referring to a USC page. I am an ardent 4-wheeler, recently did Indian Hill, Pinyon Mountain Trail, Pinyon Valley Trail, The Squeeze, Heart Attack Hill (pucker up hill) and Fish Canyon all in Anza, didn't see a single dead tree of any kind. I’ll make 4-6 trips annually totaling 4+ weeks. Side bar: If you get out that way stop at the Red Ocotillo just off Christmas Circle. |
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Post by uwphoto on Feb 17, 2022 17:14:37 GMT -8
2017 was a wet year..lucky for us, since much of the post 2000 years have been drier than normal. California doesn't average rainfall. Its regional. For example Poway got 0.39 inches 2 days ago but everything north of LA got nothing. Northern California should get more than us. Yes, my daughter got 5.3 inches at Sacramento in one day back in December..their alltime record...but almost nothing since. Anyway, the scientific community is telling us we are in a megadrought. They have ways of using tree ring data from trees that have been alive 1500 years. Tree rings do not lie re: precipitation/ wetness in a given year. Of course we have actual measurements since the mid 1800's. If you are still in doubt, visit vegetation / tree communities throughout the state and you can see the evidence with your eyes. For example, pinyon mountain in Anza-Borrego has a pinyon pine forest that has been there for 2,000 years. There are virtually no human impacts up there, such as fire suppression etc. Its 90% dead. I would guess some service collects California average rainfall, I was referring to a USC page. I am an ardent 4-wheeler, recently did Indian Hill, Pinyon Mountain Trail, Pinyon Valley Trail, The Squeeze, Heart Attack Hill (pucker up hill) and Fish Canyon all in Anza, didn't see a single dead tree of any kind. I’ll make 4-6 trips annually totaling 4+ weeks. Side bar: If you get out that way stop at the Red Ocotillo just off Christmas Circle. Yes, been there for breakfast a few..I like it. You have to know what you are looking at and where. I'm a biologist with 40 years in the field. I get paid to be out there and have done surveys for everything from desert tortoise to birds, plant communities, blue whales and more. I sometimes wish I didn't know as much as I do about the natural world. I have seen some species virtually disappear in the last 30 to 40 years. If you noticed on your recent adventure..Borrego is dry as a bone for this time of year. Borrego has had 0.68 inches of rain since October. |
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Post by uwphoto on Feb 17, 2022 17:16:05 GMT -8
2017 was a wet year..lucky for us, since much of the post 2000 years have been drier than normal. California doesn't average rainfall. Its regional. For example Poway got 0.39 inches 2 days ago but everything north of LA got nothing. Northern California should get more than us. Yes, my daughter got 5.3 inches at Sacramento in one day back in December..their alltime record...but almost nothing since. Anyway, the scientific community is telling us we are in a megadrought. They have ways of using tree ring data from trees that have been alive 1500 years. Tree rings do not lie re: precipitation/ wetness in a given year. Of course we have actual measurements since the mid 1800's. If you are still in doubt, visit vegetation / tree communities throughout the state and you can see the evidence with your eyes. For example, pinyon mountain in Anza-Borrego has a pinyon pine forest that has been there for 2,000 years. There are virtually no human impacts up there, such as fire suppression etc. Its 90% dead. I would guess some service collects California average rainfall, I was referring to a USC page. I am an ardent 4-wheeler, recently did Indian Hill, Pinyon Mountain Trail, Pinyon Valley Trail, The Squeeze, Heart Attack Hill (pucker up hill) and Fish Canyon all in Anza, didn't see a single dead tree of any kind. I’ll make 4-6 trips annually totaling 4+ weeks. Side bar: If you get out that way stop at the Red Ocotillo just off Christmas Circle. ps..the pinyon pine forest is at the top of pinyon mountain..not at the base. |
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Post by North County Aztec on Feb 17, 2022 17:50:14 GMT -8
I would guess some service collects California average rainfall, I was referring to a USC page. I am an ardent 4-wheeler, recently did Indian Hill, Pinyon Mountain Trail, Pinyon Valley Trail, The Squeeze, Heart Attack Hill (pucker up hill) and Fish Canyon all in Anza, didn't see a single dead tree of any kind. I’ll make 4-6 trips annually totaling 4+ weeks. Side bar: If you get out that way stop at the Red Ocotillo just off Christmas Circle. Yes, been there for breakfast a few..I like it. You have to know what you are looking at and where. I'm a biologist with 40 years in the field. I get paid to be out there and have done surveys for everything from desert tortoise to birds, plant communities, blue whales and more. I sometimes wish I didn't know as much as I do about the natural world. I have seen some species virtually disappear in the last 30 to 40 years. If you noticed on your recent adventure..Borrego is dry as a bone for this time of year. Borrego has had 0.68 inches of rain since October. I yield to your expertise. It is exceptionally dry this year. In the 30+ years 4-wheeling out there Coyote Canyon might be the driest I've ever experienced. There's been times the water crossings were up to my window, that's extreme, I loved it, but as of 4 weeks ago I'd be lucky to get my tires wet. |
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