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Matt Gaetz
Apr 14, 2021 18:36:10 GMT -8
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 14, 2021 18:36:10 GMT -8
mix a little coke..a little extacy..and a 17 year old? what could possibly go wrong? Remember the "Moral Majority"? Far right Cult = joke!
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 14, 2021 21:27:11 GMT -8
If he did any of the things that some have accused him of, then he must be held accountable. My question is this; what evidence is there that he is guilty? If he had sex with a minor, who is she? Has a young woman come forward and said, "Yeah, it's true"?
Wouldn't it be prudent to wait until legal action is taken against the man before we condemn him? If he is guilty, let the law take its course.
If he is exonerated, some early bandwagon-jumpers might consider issuing an apology. As for me, I am more than willing to see what happens.
AzWm
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 15, 2021 3:51:47 GMT -8
If he did any of the things that some have accused him of, then he must be held accountable. My question is this; what evidence is there that he is guilty? If he had sex with a minor, who is she? Has a young woman come forward and said, "Yeah, it's true"? Wouldn't it be prudent to wait until legal action is taken against the man before we condemn him? If he is guilty, let the law take its course. If he is exonerated, some early bandwagon-jumpers might consider issuing an apology. As for me, I am more than willing to see what happens. AzWm As you will find out, this guy is a vile creep..and my apology will not be needed. My point is that just a few years ago, the Right was promoting the moral majority. Now its defend the most vile creeps and ***** grabbers at all costs. When Cuomo was going through his recent trouble, the Democrats were not exactly defending him. Look what happened to Al Franken! which I believe was unjustified. The Republicans on the other hand, will defend almost any crime or behavior..as long as its one of their own. |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Apr 15, 2021 4:12:19 GMT -8
Interesting that Gaetz's buddy has been talking to the investigators for a year. He must have a lot of info and must be in big trouble to be rolling over. Let's wait and see.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 18, 2021 11:53:52 GMT -8
If he did any of the things that some have accused him of, then he must be held accountable. My question is this; what evidence is there that he is guilty? If he had sex with a minor, who is she? Has a young woman come forward and said, "Yeah, it's true"? Wouldn't it be prudent to wait until legal action is taken against the man before we condemn him? If he is guilty, let the law take its course. If he is exonerated, some early bandwagon-jumpers might consider issuing an apology. As for me, I am more than willing to see what happens. AzWm As you will find out, this guy is a vile creep..and my apology will not be needed. My point is that just a few years ago, the Right was promoting the moral majority. Now its defend the most vile creeps and ***** grabbers at all costs. When Cuomo was going through his recent trouble, the Democrats were not exactly defending him. Look what happened to Al Franken! which I believe was unjustified. The Republicans on the other hand, will defend almost any crime or behavior..as long as its one of their own. You say we will find out about Matt Gaetz. Okay, that's fine. But is he a vile creep in your opinion because you believe the accusations against him, or is it that you don't like his politics? What about my basic question? Has any under-age girl been identified as having had sexual relations with the Congressmen? If he guy has had such relations with a girl, he should pay the price. But the charges have to be proven in a court of law. That's all I am saying. By the way, I tend to agree with you regarding Franken. Don't like the man, but his case seems to be one of lynch mob mentality. We have too much of that on both ends of the political spectrum. AzWm |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 18, 2021 11:57:36 GMT -8
Interesting that Gaetz's buddy has been talking to the investigators for a year. He must have a lot of info and must be in big trouble to be rolling over. Let's wait and see. Is he rolling over, or do you HOPE he is rolling over?  Hate to repeat myself, but it is best to see how this all plays out. I am against rushing to judgement. AzWm |
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Matt Gaetz
Apr 18, 2021 12:49:25 GMT -8
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 18, 2021 12:49:25 GMT -8
As you will find out, this guy is a vile creep..and my apology will not be needed. My point is that just a few years ago, the Right was promoting the moral majority. Now its defend the most vile creeps and ***** grabbers at all costs. When Cuomo was going through his recent trouble, the Democrats were not exactly defending him. Look what happened to Al Franken! which I believe was unjustified. The Republicans on the other hand, will defend almost any crime or behavior..as long as its one of their own. You say we will find out about Matt Gaetz. Okay, that's fine. But is he a vile creep in your opinion because you believe the accusations against him, or is it that you don't like his politics? What about my basic question? Has any under-age girl been identified as having had sexual relations with the Congressmen? If he guy has had such relations with a girl, he should pay the price. But the charges have to be proven in a court of law. That's all I am saying. By the way, I tend to agree with you regarding Franken. Don't like the man, but his case seems to be one of lynch mob mentality. We have too much of that on both ends of the political spectrum. AzWm uh...no. Only one side cares about sexual assault. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 18, 2021 13:42:33 GMT -8
You say we will find out about Matt Gaetz. Okay, that's fine. But is he a vile creep in your opinion because you believe the accusations against him, or is it that you don't like his politics? What about my basic question? Has any under-age girl been identified as having had sexual relations with the Congressmen? If he guy has had such relations with a girl, he should pay the price. But the charges have to be proven in a court of law. That's all I am saying. By the way, I tend to agree with you regarding Franken. Don't like the man, but his case seems to be one of lynch mob mentality. We have too much of that on both ends of the political spectrum. AzWm uh...no. Only one side cares about sexual assault. I don't understand your comment. I'll ask again, has any under-age girl been identified as having had sex with Representative Gaetz? I'm serious about this. If the answer is yes, then the guy has to go. Perhaps go to prison, but certainly has to leave Congress. I do hope that everyone agrees with my deeply held belief that anyone accused of wrong doing has the right, guaranteed by the Constitution, to defend himself. That applies to everyone, regardless of his or her political beliefs. AzWm |
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Matt Gaetz
Apr 18, 2021 15:08:04 GMT -8
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Apr 18, 2021 15:08:04 GMT -8
Greenberg seems to be very talkative, that is all.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 18, 2021 16:41:27 GMT -8
Greenberg seems to be very talkative, that is all. Well, hell, I am very talkative, as any who know me will tell you. Plenty of other people are talkative as well. What does that tell us about this issue? Not much, I think. Again, let's not jump to conclusions. AzWm |
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Matt Gaetz
Apr 18, 2021 18:19:34 GMT -8
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 18, 2021 18:19:34 GMT -8
Greenberg seems to be very talkative, that is all. Well, hell, I am very talkative, as any who know me will tell you. Plenty of other people are talkative as well. What does that tell us about this issue? Not much, I think. Again, let's not jump to conclusions. AzWm Well, the women who attended the parties are pretty talkative. Coke, Extacy and illicit payments...just normal for most politicians...right? |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 18, 2021 20:47:21 GMT -8
Well, hell, I am very talkative, as any who know me will tell you. Plenty of other people are talkative as well. What does that tell us about this issue? Not much, I think. Again, let's not jump to conclusions. AzWm Well, the women who attended the parties are pretty talkative. Coke, Extacy and illicit payments...just normal for most politicians...right? Do you have a link I could use to learn about who is saying what and under what circumstances? (I want especially to learn what those who testify under oath have to say, for instance.) I must add here that I am not much of a fan of Matt Gaetz. But whether I like or dislike him is not what counts. What counts is whether the man is indicted, and based on what testimony given to law enforcement under oath. AzWm |
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 18, 2021 21:09:54 GMT -8
Well, the women who attended the parties are pretty talkative. Coke, Extacy and illicit payments...just normal for most politicians...right? Do you have a link I could use to learn about who is saying what and under what circumstances? (I want especially to learn what those who testify under oath have to say, for instance.) I must add here that I am not much of a fan of Matt Gaetz. But whether I like or dislike him is not what counts. What counts is whether the man is indicted, and based on what testimony given to law enforcement under oath. AzWm The guy rubs me the wrong way, but yes, lots of mumbo jumbo until it's accepted in court. |
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Post by aardvark on Apr 18, 2021 21:44:01 GMT -8
Do you have a link I could use to learn about who is saying what and under what circumstances? (I want especially to learn what those who testify under oath have to say, for instance.) I must add here that I am not much of a fan of Matt Gaetz. But whether I like or dislike him is not what counts. What counts is whether the man is indicted, and based on what testimony given to law enforcement under oath. AzWm The guy rubs me the wrong way, but yes, lots of mumbo jumbo until it's accepted in court. Rubs you the wrong way? Might be a poor choice of words here.  |
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 18, 2021 23:47:59 GMT -8
The guy rubs me the wrong way, but yes, lots of mumbo jumbo until it's accepted in court. Rubs you the wrong way? Might be a poor choice of words here. After I posted that, I second guessed myself about how it would go over. Too lazy to fix, but deserve the call out. Lol. |
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Post by uwphoto on May 21, 2021 7:07:26 GMT -8
Dude is toast. The party of family values and the Moral Majority is about to lose one of its stars.
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Post by mayham81 on May 21, 2021 13:51:23 GMT -8
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jun 30, 2021 17:06:58 GMT -8
As of today, the end of June, the man is still walking free. Anyone want to bet that he will NEVER be indicted? He may be, since I do not have all the facts. But I am more and more thinking that the whole point of this issue is to destroy him politically.
As I have posted, I don't much like the guy. He's too much a loyal Trump supporter. But it's not right to roast him in the court of public opinion with no real evidence. By real, I mean sworn testimony that results in court action. Again, anyone want to take my bet?
AzWm
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Matt Gaetz
Jun 30, 2021 18:53:49 GMT -8
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Post by uwphoto on Jun 30, 2021 18:53:49 GMT -8
As of today, the end of June, the man is still walking free. Anyone want to bet that he will NEVER be indicted? He may be, since I do not have all the facts. But I am more and more thinking that the whole point of this issue is to destroy him politically. As I have posted, I don't much like the guy. He's too much a loyal Trump supporter. But it's not right to roast him in the court of public opinion with no real evidence. By real, I mean sworn testimony that results in court action. Again, anyone want to take my bet? AzWm we shall see William, meanwhile trump org. indicted. Nervous yet? |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jun 30, 2021 19:21:54 GMT -8
Nervous? Not me. If he is guilty of a crime, give him his day in court. As I have indicated several times, I am not a fan.
AzWm
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