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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 17, 2010 16:42:50 GMT -8
What facet of Christianity equates to any of the things about the Muslim religion and the even luke warm will to destroy America. That was just a poor selection of an idea to make a pretty unthinking remark.It's a bigoted statement that assumes that all Muslims want to destroy the country. But that's not the real point, which is that as a fundamentalist Christian, you a priori would have no problem at all with destroying an Islamic country in the name of your religion. Let's face it, Pooh. You would destroy Islamic religious culture in order to turn them into "good Christians". =Bob The all seeing mind reader Bob posts another gem! Just reading your words, Bunky. =Bob
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Post by aztecwin on May 17, 2010 18:06:27 GMT -8
The all seeing mind reader Bob posts another gem! Just reading your words, Bunky. =Bob Point those words out.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 18, 2010 18:35:13 GMT -8
Just reading your words, Bunky. =Bob Point those words out. You've already offered them. Simple fact is this - you're a Montana ranch hand bigot. Learn to live with your failings. =Bob
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Post by aztecwin on May 19, 2010 13:54:49 GMT -8
You've already offered them. Simple fact is this - you're a Montana ranch hand bigot. Learn to live with your failings. =Bob Where would you possibly get that idea? I think you are just trolling again!
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Post by tuff on May 29, 2010 7:48:49 GMT -8
People came here because of religious persecution in the old country. That's why we have freedom of religion. We have separation of church and state to insure freedom from religion. Until muslims can put their religion on the back burner and chastise their radical jerks, they can never be good Americans, or Americans for that matter.
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Post by AztecWilliam on May 29, 2010 8:22:28 GMT -8
You've already offered them. Simple fact is this - you're a Montana ranch hand bigot. Learn to live with your failings. =Bob Civility, Bob, civility! Remember, disagreeing without being disagreeable is the watchword. Perhaps there is a less incendiary way of expressing your disagreement with Win than to use one of the hot-button words. AzWm
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Post by AztecWilliam on May 29, 2010 8:34:39 GMT -8
People came here because of religious persecution in the old country. That's why we have freedom of religion. We have separation of church and state to insure freedom from religion. Until Muslims can put their religion on the back burner and chastise their radical jerks, they can never be good Americans, or Americans for that matter. This is not original with me, but I'll restate it here. Islam is still fighting the same religious wars (Sunni vs Shia) that have troubled that religion for the past 13 centuries. Christianity was on a par with that five hundred years ago. (My wife and I just watched a number of episodes of the Tudors TV show from the UK. Sixteenth Century England with all its burnings at the stake, beheadings, and hangings, all in the name of the "true religion." Talk about religious intolerance! ! !) Unfortunately, the reformation and counter-reformation that resulted in Christianity's current religious tolerance has no analog in Islam. I'm sure that very devout Muslim immigrants to this country therefore feel torn between their religion and the climate of religious tolerance that prevails in the U.S. That our Muslim immigrants seem to be, on the whole, better integrated into our society than elsewhere in the West is encouraging. Unfortunately, we are also hearing stories of very radical Imams preaching fire and brimstone from American mosques (and even in the armed forces). That is certainly not going to make the situation any easier for Muslims in this country, I'm afraid. AzWm
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Post by sleepy on May 30, 2010 10:07:57 GMT -8
I think it's people like Win that have problems being a good, loyal American. They won't be happy until we are all thumping each other over the head with their various -- and by then -- state-mandated interpretations of the Bible.
I prefer to live by The Golden Rule and this truly patriotic American motto: E Pluribus Unum
Until you get those two down as basics, Win, you aren't really an American, but instead a sad, pitiful, paranoid and irrelevant masquerading bigot.
Stick that in your bullet points.
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Post by aztecwin on May 30, 2010 10:36:52 GMT -8
I think it's people like Win that have problems being a good, loyal American. They won't be happy until we are all thumping each other over the head with their various -- and by then -- state-mandated interpretations of the Bible. I prefer to live by The Golden Rule and this truly patriotic American motto: E Pluribus Unum Until you get those two down as basics, Win, you aren't really an American, but instead a sad, pitiful, paranoid and irrelevant masquerading bigot. Stick that in your bullet points. You are welcome to your rather poorly formed opinion. Please join =Bob for a cluster-hug between the uninformed.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 30, 2010 18:20:32 GMT -8
You've already offered them. Simple fact is this - you're a Montana ranch hand bigot. Learn to live with your failings. =Bob Civility, Bob, civility! Remember, disagreeing without being disagreeable is the watchword. Perhaps there is a less incendiary way of expressing your disagreement with Win than to use one of the hot-button words. AzWm "Civility" includes the moderator not kissing Pooh's right-wingnut ass. I'm sorry that you don't agree with that, but I would suggest the reason not much of anyone came over here until Zip closed down his forum. You guys have pretty much had this website to yourselves for the past year and I do apologize that that may change. Actually, I don't apologize. I could care less about "civility" when this site has been nothing more than a Tea Party website with a very few people offering arguments because doing so has meant that the right-wingnuts on here would gang up against anyone who offered an opinion that didn't fit your site's political correctness. In great part, I dropped out of this site because my mother died and I didn't care to argue politics, but even before she died I was fed up with the politics on this site because it was nothing more than you, Pooh and a few others spending their time agreeing with each other on how brilliant you all are. There is a reason most nobody bothered with this site until a couple days ago. Figure it out. =Bob
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 30, 2010 18:23:20 GMT -8
I think it's people like Win that have problems being a good, loyal American. They won't be happy until we are all thumping each other over the head with their various -- and by then -- state-mandated interpretations of the Bible. I prefer to live by The Golden Rule and this truly patriotic American motto: E Pluribus Unum Until you get those two down as basics, Win, you aren't really an American, but instead a sad, pitiful, paranoid and irrelevant masquerading bigot. Stick that in your bullet points. You are welcome to your rather poorly formed opinion. Please join =Bob for a cluster-hug between the uninformed. Oh dear, another pathetic troll from an old man. But then again, I guess I am "uninformed" because I don't start my day reading World Daily News, then continue it by playing 18 holes with idiots who agree with me and then slugging down margaritas before taking a nap. =Bob
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Post by aztecwin on May 31, 2010 12:58:01 GMT -8
You are welcome to your rather poorly formed opinion. Please join =Bob for a cluster-hug between the uninformed. Oh dear, another pathetic troll from an old man. But then again, I guess I am "uninformed" because I don't start my day reading World Daily News, then continue it by playing 18 holes with idiots who agree with me and then slugging down margaritas before taking a nap. =Bob That is one pretty good reason, but there are others!
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Post by 84aztec96 on May 31, 2010 17:42:05 GMT -8
I think the original question is legitimate. I do think Muslims can be good Americans, and take their beliefs seriously. It is apparent that the vast-vast majority of Muslims in America do not believe in the type of Islam that some Muslims overseas do. I would be interested to hear their reason why.
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Post by aztecsrule72001 on May 31, 2010 18:51:59 GMT -8
Define "good American".
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Jun 1, 2010 15:35:39 GMT -8
Hey.. looks like I'm finally gonna get some help. I was getting very tired of getting smacked around every time I didn't goose step to the wing-nut marching song. ;D
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