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Post by uwphoto on Jan 19, 2021 18:57:55 GMT -8
I grew up in the 70s and I too love the decade's music, but no way it tops the 60s. I defy anyone to name another decade that can boast anything close to a an origin top 10 of Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin, Beach Boys, Who, Kinks, CCR, Floyd, Airplane, Doors. That is a truly impressive list of names, but I feel when judging the musical weight of a decade it is important to consider the year the music was created rather than the year the band was formed. Take Airplane for example. I think we can all agree Airplane's best work was "We Built This City" from the landmark 1985 album "Knee Deep in the Hoopla" which naturally makes them an 80's band. Geez you are a troll! Do you think anybody who has half a brain would fall for this $#!+?? |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jan 19, 2021 19:35:15 GMT -8
Actually, "We built this city" has made several 100 worst rock songs lists.
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 19, 2021 19:40:25 GMT -8
Actually, "We built this city" has made several 100 worst rock songs lists. Actually, it was voted "The Worst" for a while...thats why Alometer posted it. Of course was not the Airplane...at least not the real Airplane. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Jan 20, 2021 6:54:24 GMT -8
That is a truly impressive list of names, but I feel when judging the musical weight of a decade it is important to consider the year the music was created rather than the year the band was formed. Take Airplane for example. I think we can all agree Airplane's best work was "We Built This City" from the landmark 1985 album "Knee Deep in the Hoopla" which naturally makes them an 80's band. Geez you are a troll! Do you think anybody who has half a brain would fall for this $#!+?? Of course I'm goofing with "We Built This City" being their best but I do think the time of the music is more important than the founding date of the band. I do think "We Built This City" speaks to 80's music while "White Rabbit" is 60's music. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Jan 20, 2021 7:01:07 GMT -8
I grew up in the 70s and I too love the decade's music, but no way it tops the 60s. I defy anyone to name another decade that can boast anything close to a an origin top 10 of Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin, Beach Boys, Who, Kinks, CCR, Floyd, Airplane, Doors. Here, here! Can't forget the: Allman Brothers, Buffalo Springfield, Lou Reed, Cream, the Hollies, Sam Cooke, Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett, Aretha Franklin and more! I'm starting to get the mental image that some people here used to chill with their friend next to a van and say "Hey man, is that Freedom Rock?" |
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 20, 2021 9:45:42 GMT -8
Geez you are a troll! Do you think anybody who has half a brain would fall for this $#!+?? Of course I'm goofing with "We Built This City" being their best but I do think the time of the music is more important than the founding date of the band. I do think "We Built This City" speaks to 80's music while "White Rabbit" is 60's music. You know this..but the Jefferson Airplane and the Jefferson Starship of the early 80's have absolutely zero in common musically. couple former band members..but maybe only 1 by then. I saw the Starship in 1975 and they already sucked. |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jan 20, 2021 9:48:05 GMT -8
Here, here! Can't forget the: Allman Brothers, Buffalo Springfield, Lou Reed, Cream, the Hollies, Sam Cooke, Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett, Aretha Franklin and more! I'm starting to get the mental image that some people here used to chill with their friend next to a van and say "Hey man, is that Freedom Rock?" Some used to cruise up on Dictionary Hill in their V8 coupes in the 60's listening to Wolfman Jack and late night "underground" rock music!! |
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 20, 2021 9:59:19 GMT -8
Here, here! Can't forget the: Allman Brothers, Buffalo Springfield, Lou Reed, Cream, the Hollies, Sam Cooke, Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett, Aretha Franklin and more! I'm starting to get the mental image that some people here used to chill with their friend next to a van and say "Hey man, is that Freedom Rock?" Alometer, it was so free...it all crashed down. Law suits were rare, people did almost whatever they wanted. If you can imagine the Rolling Stones hiring the Hells Angels as security for an outdoor show with thousands of people..based on what happened..you could own the Stones today. I remember a concert at Winterland and the Kool aid at the door had LSD in it. The next day, front page news parents were complaining about their kids taking acid without knowing it. What would happen to the venue and the musicians in today's world? Also bands could play till 4 in the morning. no strict rules. Not to mention that the girls became very free , if you know what I mean. So the bad is obvious...but on the good side..you talk about freedom...it was unreal. It was nice they made littering illegal in 1963. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 20, 2021 10:03:48 GMT -8
I'm starting to get the mental image that some people here used to chill with their friend next to a van and say "Hey man, is that Freedom Rock?" Alometer, it was so free...it all crashed down. Law suits were rare, people did almost whatever they wanted. If you can imagine the Rolling Stones hiring the Hells Angels as security for an outdoor show with thousands of people..based on what happened..you could own the Stones today. I remember a concert at Winterland and the Kool aid at the door had LSD in it. The next day, front page news parents were complaining about their kids taking acid without knowing it. What would happen to the venue and the musicians in today's world? Also bands could play till 4 in the morning. no strict rules. Not to mention that the girls became very free , if you know what I mean. So the bad is obvious...but on the good side..you talk about freedom...it was unreal. It was nice they made littering illegal in 1963. as a side note...this carried on into the 70's..bringing your own beer in milk jugs into Jack Murphy for Aztec games..issues there as well...liability must have been in its infancy. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Jan 20, 2021 10:31:11 GMT -8
I'm starting to get the mental image that some people here used to chill with their friend next to a van and say "Hey man, is that Freedom Rock?" Some used to cruise up on Dictionary Hill in their V8 coupes in the 60's listening to Wolfman Jack and late night "underground" rock music!! I grew up in a different, but still awesome time. For me it was 91x staffed with DJs who would fly over to England to raid the UK record stores for new sounds, and acquiring wooden shipping pallets left out behind businesses to build massive bonfires on the beach. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Jan 20, 2021 10:41:08 GMT -8
Of course I'm goofing with "We Built This City" being their best but I do think the time of the music is more important than the founding date of the band. I do think "We Built This City" speaks to 80's music while "White Rabbit" is 60's music. You know this..but the Jefferson Airplane and the Jefferson Starship of the early 80's have absolutely zero in common musically. couple former band members..but maybe only 1 by then. I saw the Starship in 1975 and they already sucked. I view them as 3 different bands with the first iteration (Jefferson Airplane) being more trippy with "White Rabbit", the second (Jefferson Starship) being late-70's guitar heavy with "Jane", and the final version (Starship) being wannabe 80's with "We Built This City" and "Sara". Grace Slick did sing both "White Rabbit" and "We Built This City" but I was mostly playing when I suggested they were the same group. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 20, 2021 10:45:31 GMT -8
You know this..but the Jefferson Airplane and the Jefferson Starship of the early 80's have absolutely zero in common musically. couple former band members..but maybe only 1 by then. I saw the Starship in 1975 and they already sucked. I view them as 3 different bands with the first iteration (Jefferson Airplane) being more trippy with "White Rabbit", the second (Jefferson Starship) being late-70's guitar heavy with "Jane", and the final version (Starship) being wannabe 80's with "We Built This City" and "Sara". Grace Slick did sing both "White Rabbit" and "We Built This City" but I was mostly playing when I suggested they were the same group. yea, I figured... but still JA and JS have virtually nothing in common. Its like the Beatles and Wings. |
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Post by azson on Jan 21, 2021 15:46:49 GMT -8
I will give the nod to the 70s for full albums though. No decade can compete with Let it Be, Dark Side, The Wall, Wish You Were Here, Songs in the Key of Life, Zeppelin IV, What's Going On, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, A Night At The Opera, etc...
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Jan 21, 2021 17:05:03 GMT -8
I will give the nod to the 70s for full albums though. No decade can compete with Let it Be, Dark Side, The Wall, Wish You Were Here, Songs in the Key of Life, Zeppelin IV, What's Going On, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, A Night At The Opera, etc... The 80's weren't a slouch in that department. Thriller, Appetite for Destruction, Born in the U.S.A., Slippery When Wet, Like a Virgin, Hi Infidelity, Licensed to Ill, Synchronicity, Master of Puppets, Purple Rain. |
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Post by azson on Jan 22, 2021 15:42:51 GMT -8
I will give the nod to the 70s for full albums though. No decade can compete with Let it Be, Dark Side, The Wall, Wish You Were Here, Songs in the Key of Life, Zeppelin IV, What's Going On, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, A Night At The Opera, etc... The 80's weren't a slouch in that department. Thriller, Appetite for Destruction, Born in the U.S.A., Slippery When Wet, Like a Virgin, Hi Infidelity, Licensed to Ill, Synchronicity, Master of Puppets, Purple Rain. Good songs on all for sure, but none of those come close in terms of entire album quality of those I listed...and sorry, but Bon Jovi has no business being, in any way, shape, or form, compared with the likes of The Beatles, Floyd, Zeppelin, et al. |
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Post by podpeople on Jan 22, 2021 17:02:21 GMT -8
Babylon 5 has to be one of the most overrated sci-fi properties in the history of the genre. I've seen the whole series all the way through, twice, and I do not understand your reverence for it. You are in a tiny minority there. It is on almost every list of the All Time Greatest Science Fiction TV Shows in the Top 10, most in the Top 5 (many at #1). It's the writing and the acting that sets it apart. That and a VERY unique concept - that the Earth Gov is actually run by bad guys who impose martial law to maintain control. (Among many other key plot points.) B5 was one of the first shows to ever have one long story over 5 years, planned and plotted out in advance. It's been said that Game of Thrones (among many other shows) was heavily inspired by B5 (and it's actually true). But I digress, this is off topic. Londo just provided a great, succinct description of SOME of Trump's faults as a human being. off topic: If you haven't already seen Counterpart, it's a must see. I think it's on Amazon. One of the best sci-fi shows I've seen in a long time. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Jan 22, 2021 17:55:39 GMT -8
The 80's weren't a slouch in that department. Thriller, Appetite for Destruction, Born in the U.S.A., Slippery When Wet, Like a Virgin, Hi Infidelity, Licensed to Ill, Synchronicity, Master of Puppets, Purple Rain. Good songs on all for sure, but none of those come close in terms of entire album quality of those I listed...and sorry, but Bon Jovi has no business being, in any way, shape, or form, compared with the likes of The Beatles, Floyd, Zeppelin, et al. Shhhh.....dude. Dude?! Don't say that. Look, I get what you are saying but it sold over 12 million copies which is more than almost every album on your list, had three #1 songs in "You Give Love a Bad Name", "Livin' on a Prayer", and "Wanted Dead or Alive", and was the first (only?) hair metal album to ever do that. It was undeniably huge, but hating on that album is likely to get your eyes gouged out by a pack of late 40's white women who still get all hooched-up when they come through town. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 22, 2021 18:47:00 GMT -8
Good songs on all for sure, but none of those come close in terms of entire album quality of those I listed...and sorry, but Bon Jovi has no business being, in any way, shape, or form, compared with the likes of The Beatles, Floyd, Zeppelin, et al. Shhhh.....dude. Dude?! Don't say that. Look, I get what you are saying but it sold over 12 million copies which is more than almost every album on your list, had three #1 songs in "You Give Love a Bad Name", "Livin' on a Prayer", and "Wanted Dead or Alive", and was the first (only?) hair metal album to ever do that. It was undeniably huge, but hating on that album is likely to get your eyes gouged out by a pack of late 40's white women who still get all hooched-up when they come through town. It's much easier to purchase things nowadays, than it was the 60s and 70s. |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jan 22, 2021 20:28:27 GMT -8
Shhhh.....dude. Dude?! Don't say that. Look, I get what you are saying but it sold over 12 million copies which is more than almost every album on your list, had three #1 songs in "You Give Love a Bad Name", "Livin' on a Prayer", and "Wanted Dead or Alive", and was the first (only?) hair metal album to ever do that. It was undeniably huge, but hating on that album is likely to get your eyes gouged out by a pack of late 40's white women who still get all hooched-up when they come through town. It's much easier to purchase things nowadays, than it was the 60s and 70s. Yeah you had to drive to Tower Records on Sports Arena Blvd and circle around the block about 5X until you found a parking place. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Jan 22, 2021 20:31:36 GMT -8
Shhhh.....dude. Dude?! Don't say that. Look, I get what you are saying but it sold over 12 million copies which is more than almost every album on your list, had three #1 songs in "You Give Love a Bad Name", "Livin' on a Prayer", and "Wanted Dead or Alive", and was the first (only?) hair metal album to ever do that. It was undeniably huge, but hating on that album is likely to get your eyes gouged out by a pack of late 40's white women who still get all hooched-up when they come through town. It's much easier to purchase things nowadays, than it was the 60s and 70s. 7 of the top-11 most purchased albums were 1970's albums, and none of them were made within the past 20 years. Easier to purchase has nothing to do with it. Easier to download illegally probably does skew the numbers toward the pre-internet era. 1 - Michael Jackson - Thriller - 1982 - 47.3 Million 2 - AC/DC - Back in Black - 1980 - 29.4 Million 3 - Meat Loaf - Bat Out of Hell - 1977 - 21.7 Million 4 - Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 1973 - 24.4 Million 5 - (mostly) Whitney Houston - The Bodyguard - 1992 - 28.4 Million 6 - Eagles - Greatest Hits (1971 to 1975) - 1977 - 41.2 Million 7 - (mostly) Bee Gees - Saturday Night Fever - 1977 - 21.6 Million 8 - Fleetwood Mac - Rumors - 1977 - 27.9 Million 9 - Shania Twain - Come On Over - 1997 - 29.6 Million 10 - Various - Greese Motion Picture Soundtrack - 1978 - 14.4 Million 11 - Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV - 1971 - 29.0 Million * The ranks don't match up to the sales numbers because they are ranked by claimed album sales but I used the certified copies sold numbers. |
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