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Post by uwphoto on Jan 3, 2021 12:50:06 GMT -8
trump is a shyster and a criminal. his cult followers should be embarrassed!
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 3, 2021 15:03:09 GMT -8
All 10 living former secretaries of Defense say its over. Is that enough for the nutcase trumpers?? I hope there is not violence on January 6th...but if there is, the stain will be on the Republicans forever!
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 3, 2021 17:16:40 GMT -8
Let me try to be more clear on what I mean. I think Biden and his team would claim some sort of impropriety in the election, because there are enough things for both sides to go to in terms of that. Didn't people/posters here, say that they thought, or there was also evidence of UPS trucks having loads of votes for Trump? I can't remember the exact details.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 3, 2021 17:50:29 GMT -8
Let me try to be more clear on what I mean. I think Biden and his team would claim some sort of impropriety in the election, because there are enough things for both sides to go to in terms of that. Didn't people/posters here, say that they thought, or there was also evidence of UPS trucks having loads of votes for Trump? I can't remember the exact details. John, answer the question. Stop with the bogus deflections. Please. There is no evidence to corroborate your opinion. And you MUST be able to tell the difference between a mandatory recall (State law in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin) and THIS. This is extortion, bribery, election tampering and a half dozen other felonies. No, there are no UPS trucks with Trump votes. Use some common sense here. Does that sound even remotely plausible?
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 3, 2021 18:12:53 GMT -8
Let me try to be more clear on what I mean. I think Biden and his team would claim some sort of impropriety in the election, because there are enough things for both sides to go to in terms of that. Didn't people/posters here, say that they thought, or there was also evidence of UPS trucks having loads of votes for Trump? I can't remember the exact details. John, answer the question. Stop with the bogus deflections. Please. There is no evidence to corroborate your opinion. And you MUST be able to tell the difference between a mandatory recall (State law in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin) and THIS. This is extortion, bribery, election tampering and a half dozen other felonies. No, there are no UPS trucks with Trump votes. Use some common sense here. Does that sound even remotely plausible? Yes, I know what a mandatory recall is. I'm saying that there would be suspicions by Biden's team about voting improprieties for Trump. This is my assumption, and many others. You have to know that this isn't a far reach.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 3, 2021 18:31:01 GMT -8
John, answer the question. Stop with the bogus deflections. Please. There is no evidence to corroborate your opinion. And you MUST be able to tell the difference between a mandatory recall (State law in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin) and THIS. This is extortion, bribery, election tampering and a half dozen other felonies. No, there are no UPS trucks with Trump votes. Use some common sense here. Does that sound even remotely plausible? Yes, I know what a mandatory recall is. I'm saying that there would be suspicions by Biden's team about voting improprieties for Trump. This is my assumption, and many others. You have to know that this isn't a far reach. It's literally not the point. I don't believe with a popular vote as decisive as this was that Joe Biden would be screaming from the rooftops. The mail-in vote was consistently and repeatedly vilified by the GOP. It was lauded by the Democrats. Considering the structure, what reason would Biden have to question a popular vote if he lost it by the largest margin ever? Separate that notion, as silly it is, from what you're being asked to address here. This isn't a "both sides" narrative. It's one man who has hijacked a political party for his own personal gain attempting to overthrow a secure election to remain in power. That's a dictatorship.
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 3, 2021 20:53:21 GMT -8
Yes, I know what a mandatory recall is. I'm saying that there would be suspicions by Biden's team about voting improprieties for Trump. This is my assumption, and many others. You have to know that this isn't a far reach. It's literally not the point. I don't believe with a popular vote as decisive as this was that Joe Biden would be screaming from the rooftops. The mail-in vote was consistently and repeatedly vilified by the GOP. It was lauded by the Democrats. Considering the structure, what reason would Biden have to question a popular vote if he lost it by the largest margin ever? Separate that notion, as silly it is, from what you're being asked to address here. This isn't a "both sides" narrative. It's one man who has hijacked a political party for his own personal gain attempting to overthrow a secure election to remain in power. That's a dictatorship. It's simply a hypothetical situation. If Biden had lost, they would have tried everything known to man to reverse the decision. Do you actually think they wouldn't have done everything in their power to find a way to reverse the decision if Trump won?
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 3, 2021 21:29:52 GMT -8
It's literally not the point. I don't believe with a popular vote as decisive as this was that Joe Biden would be screaming from the rooftops. The mail-in vote was consistently and repeatedly vilified by the GOP. It was lauded by the Democrats. Considering the structure, what reason would Biden have to question a popular vote if he lost it by the largest margin ever? Separate that notion, as silly it is, from what you're being asked to address here. This isn't a "both sides" narrative. It's one man who has hijacked a political party for his own personal gain attempting to overthrow a secure election to remain in power. That's a dictatorship. It's simply a hypothetical situation. If Biden had lost, they would have tried everything known to man to reverse the decision. Do you actually think they wouldn't have done everything in their power to find a way to reverse the decision if Trump won? I don't. There is nothing to indicate that, as the vote was not close, save for the voters Trump is trying to disenfranchise. You're using a lazy generalization to apply it to both sides when one side set this up months ago (and I told you it was going to happen.) You still have not answered about the criminal actions of the president, specifically with this recording. You're trying to make this a nothingburger by saying Biden would do the same thing. I believe Biden would probably use a state recount, granted under law, if the percentages in Georgia and Wisconsin were flipped. I do not believe Biden would commit multiple felonies, try to eliminate Black voters, push nonsensical conspiracy theories that damage election security, instigate a de facto coup with an entire party or push violence.
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Jan 3, 2021 22:43:56 GMT -8
If Biden had lost, they would have tried everything known to man to reverse the decision. Do you actually think they wouldn't have done everything in their power to find a way to reverse the decision if Trump won? What precedent is there for such a belief?
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 4, 2021 0:20:09 GMT -8
If Biden had lost, they would have tried everything known to man to reverse the decision. Do you actually think they wouldn't have done everything in their power to find a way to reverse the decision if Trump won? What precedent is there for such a belief? Because of the all out effort to get him out of the office since day one.
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 4, 2021 6:42:26 GMT -8
What precedent is there for such a belief? Because of the all out effort to get him out of the office since day one. Geez, I wonder why? When a guy mocks a handicapped reporter, says "guys that were captured aren't heroes and says the the sitting president was not born in the US.. red flags go up. John Kelley worked for him and said he was the single most flawed human being he has ever met. Listen to what other former employees have said. You really play to the base when you give Rush Limbaugh the medal of freedom. Think it would go over big if Biden gave Rachel Maddow and Bill Maher medals of Freedom? When you install industry insiders to run the EPA and Department of the Interior, it makes a mockery of all the environmental advancement since Teddy Roosevelt. The guy is as dumb as a rock on many levels and simply listems to far right media to make his moves. This captures a certain segment of the American public, but gives a finger to to America as a whole. The level of hatred generated by this person is on a level that has never been seen before. I know people that I thought were incapable of deep hatred and they wish him dead. This is surprising to me. This guy is bad for America, the worst I have ever seen by a lot. Listen to his call to the Secretary of the State of Georgia. He's a cross between a used car salesman and a mobster. It's a national and global embarrassment.
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 4, 2021 7:56:18 GMT -8
Because of the all out effort to get him out of the office since day one. Geez, I wonder why? When a guy mocks a handicapped reporter, says "guys that were captured aren't heroes and says the the sitting president was not born in the US.. red flags go up. John Kelley worked for him and said he was the single most flawed human being he has ever met. Listen to what other former employees have said. You really play to the base when you give Rush Limbaugh the medal of freedom. Think it would go over big if Biden gave Rachel Maddow and Bill Maher medals of Freedom? When you install industry insiders to run the EPA and Department of the Interior, it makes a mockery of all the environmental advancement since Teddy Roosevelt. The guy is as dumb as a rock on many levels and simply listems to far right media to make his moves. This captures a certain segment of the American public, but gives a finger to to America as a whole. The level of hatred generated by this person is on a level that has never been seen before. I know people that I thought were incapable of deep hatred and they wish him dead. This is surprising to me. This guy is bad for America, the worst I have ever seen by a lot. Listen to his call to the Secretary of the State of Georgia. He's a cross between a used car salesman and a mobster. It's a national and global embarrassment. Yes, I understand why. I'm just saying, because of the disdain for him, they would have went to any lengths to get him out of office.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 4, 2021 8:18:54 GMT -8
Geez, I wonder why? When a guy mocks a handicapped reporter, says "guys that were captured aren't heroes and says the the sitting president was not born in the US.. red flags go up. John Kelley worked for him and said he was the single most flawed human being he has ever met. Listen to what other former employees have said. You really play to the base when you give Rush Limbaugh the medal of freedom. Think it would go over big if Biden gave Rachel Maddow and Bill Maher medals of Freedom? When you install industry insiders to run the EPA and Department of the Interior, it makes a mockery of all the environmental advancement since Teddy Roosevelt. The guy is as dumb as a rock on many levels and simply listems to far right media to make his moves. This captures a certain segment of the American public, but gives a finger to to America as a whole. The level of hatred generated by this person is on a level that has never been seen before. I know people that I thought were incapable of deep hatred and they wish him dead. This is surprising to me. This guy is bad for America, the worst I have ever seen by a lot. Listen to his call to the Secretary of the State of Georgia. He's a cross between a used car salesman and a mobster. It's a national and global embarrassment. Yes, I understand why. I'm just saying, because of the disdain for him, they would have went to any lengths to get him out of office. Sickening.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 5, 2021 14:23:30 GMT -8
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jan 5, 2021 15:18:36 GMT -8
It's tough when they're dug in like an Alabama tick.
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 5, 2021 18:40:14 GMT -8
Devolution in action. Mother nature is not happy with us.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 5, 2021 18:49:20 GMT -8
I think we're ready to flip the Senate and remove Mitch McConnell from a job he has held for too long.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 5, 2021 19:03:04 GMT -8
One down, one to go.
Edit : Ossoff was just projected to defeat Perdue.
Glory hallelujah.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jan 5, 2021 19:06:37 GMT -8
I'm hoping your flip prophecy comes through. Somehow McConnell needs to be shut down.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 5, 2021 19:16:58 GMT -8
I'm hoping your flip prophecy comes through. Somehow McConnell needs to be shut down. It's all but a certainty with the outstanding vote remaining.
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