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Post by aztecryan on Dec 21, 2020 9:40:28 GMT -8
File this under "When you know you've lost"....Yeah, I just feel bad for you. Objectivity seems to be a foreign concept and you're falling for obvious mistruths and fallacious arguments. You can't prove your argument, so there's not much else to do. Not hardly. You haven’t proven yours, except in your own mind. I showed point-blank proof, which is more than you've done. You can keep repeating elementary school comebacks, but you're losing here...badly. Your alternative facts don't belong here.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 21, 2020 9:43:10 GMT -8
He hasn't been controlling the media? are you serious? He had his attorney general go to Fox News headquarters so that they would fall in Line with his narrative! or have you conveniently forgotten about that part? He asked his AG to lock up his political rivals IN A TWEET!!! EVERBODY SAW IT!! Luckily his AG realized that Trump is not on the right side of history. You're either willfully blind, or you've pledged yourself to this racist white supremacist, and if that is the case, then why don't you move to Florida where you can be closer to your proud boys. Lol. The media's out of control. Period. Did you actually say Trump is controlling the media? Promoting radical conspiracy theories, threatening Fox News and railing against literally everything that doesn't grovel at his feet isn't North Korea assassination style control, but it doesn't belong in a free and organized democracy. Undermining public confidence in the media by spouting off unfounded, unproven election conspiracy is a major problem. So is undermining public health officials during a global pandemic and attempting to suppress information that actively leads to death.
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Post by podpeople on Dec 21, 2020 9:46:13 GMT -8
He hasn't been controlling the media? are you serious? He had his attorney general go to Fox News headquarters so that they would fall in Line with his narrative! or have you conveniently forgotten about that part? He asked his AG to lock up his political rivals IN A TWEET!!! EVERBODY SAW IT!! Luckily his AG realized that Trump is not on the right side of history. You're either willfully blind, or you've pledged yourself to this racist white supremacist, and if that is the case, then why don't you move to Florida where you can be closer to your proud boys. Lol. The media's out of control. Period. Did you actually say Trump is controlling the media? trump is calling everything that goes against him fake news, he's convinced a large portion of the population that there was voter fraud, he promotes "news networks" that promote his propaganda, he's controlling it in many ways, just not in the ways that suit your definition, which is also convenient for you. A fascist doesn't have to do everything by the book to be a fascist; everything evolves over time, history teaches that as well.
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Post by ptsdthor on Dec 21, 2020 9:52:03 GMT -8
Election fraud is as old as Democracy itself. To say or think that it didn't happen this cycle is it own indictment of intellectual dishonesty at best. Whataboutism aside, one only needed to watch the news this summer to know which groups are most willing to break the law to forward their political agenda.
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Post by tuff on Dec 21, 2020 10:46:29 GMT -8
Lol. The media's out of control. Period. Did you actually say Trump is controlling the media? trump is calling everything that goes against him fake news, he's convinced a large portion of the population that there was voter fraud, he promotes "news networks" that promote his propaganda, he's controlling it in many ways, just not in the ways that suit your definition, which is also convenient for you. A fascist doesn't have to do everything by the book to be a fascist; everything evolves over time, history teaches that as well. [/quote Like CNn, MSNBC, all the major networks aren’t controlled by the DNC. please. Wake up. ]
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Post by tuff on Dec 21, 2020 10:46:50 GMT -8
Election fraud is as old as Democracy itself. To say or think that it didn't happen this cycle is it own indictment of intellectual dishonesty at best. Whataboutism aside, one only needed to watch the news this summer to know which groups are most willing to break the law to forward their political agenda. You just can’t talk to stupid.
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Post by tuff on Dec 21, 2020 10:49:25 GMT -8
trump is calling everything that goes against him fake news, he's convinced a large portion of the population that there was voter fraud, he promotes "news networks" that promote his propaganda, he's controlling it in many ways, just not in the ways that suit your definition, which is also convenient for you. A fascist doesn't have to do everything by the book to be a fascist; everything evolves over time, history teaches that as well. [/quote Like CNn, MSNBC, all the major networks aren’t controlled by the DNC. please. Wake up. ] And as a side note, has anyone in your family ever lived in these fascist societies? Have you? Has anyone on here? I would like to say that I have had family members that have, but some asswipe on this board will say that I am making it up, blah, blah, blah.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 21, 2020 11:04:35 GMT -8
Sorry, my cousin's wife's nephew's plumber called and laughed. Too good.
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Post by uwphoto on Dec 21, 2020 12:55:54 GMT -8
Sorry, my cousin's wife's nephew's plumber called and laughed. Too good. The far right nuts are down to QAnon members Sydney Powell and Michael Flynn to further their anti American..literally fuggin insane agenda. Meanwhile trump quit weeks ago. Saddest period in American history. Oh, and people like tuff should have been banned a long time ago for calling for the death of "Socialists" on this forum. He doesn't even know what it means. Everybody who hates trump, which is prolly 60% of Americans? People on Medicare and unemployment? Regulators that keep a pig farm from setting up camp next to his house? Trump has succeeded in making us the dumbest country in the world...and yes, I do take responsibility for the rare f-bomb on here..but some of these people are way off the cliff.
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Post by podpeople on Dec 21, 2020 15:09:36 GMT -8
And as a side note, has anyone in your family ever lived in these fascist societies? Have you? Has anyone on here? I would like to say that I have had family members that have, but some asswipe on this board will say that I am making it up, blah, blah, blah. I lived in Spain for a few years and got to speak to a lot of people about fascism. What we are seeing here in the US is how it begins.
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Post by podpeople on Dec 21, 2020 15:23:18 GMT -8
I'm sorry, but if you support Trump, you are supporting the $#!+ that comes out of his mouth. you're Supporting the confederate monuments. You're supporting white nationalism and racism. You're supporting fascism and propaganda. You're supporting his weakness in defending American troops, and calling them losers and suckers.. You're supporting his weakening of our national security by giving classified information to Putin. You're supporting his undermining our democracy by trying to overthrow a free and open election. You don't have a place in this country if you'd rather be part of the destruction of democracy. Get the hell out.
(edit: clarify my thoughts)
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Post by tuff on Dec 21, 2020 15:57:47 GMT -8
Sorry, my cousin's wife's nephew's plumber called and laughed. Too good. The far right nuts are down to QAnon members Sydney Powell and Michael Flynn to further their anti American..literally fuggin insane agenda. Meanwhile trump quit weeks ago. Saddest period in American history. Oh, and people like tuff should have been banned a long time ago for calling for the death of "Socialists" on this forum. He doesn't even know what it means. Everybody who hates trump, which is prolly 60% of Americans? People on Medicare and unemployment? Regulators that keep a pig farm from setting up camp next to his house? Trump has succeeded in making us the dumbest country in the world...and yes, I do take responsibility for the rare f-bomb on here..but some of these people are way off the cliff. Lol. Can’t talk to stupid.
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Post by tuff on Dec 21, 2020 15:58:04 GMT -8
I'm sorry, but if you support Trump, you are supporting the $#!+ that comes out of his mouth. you're Supporting the confederate monuments. You're supporting white nationalism and racism. You're supporting fascism and propaganda. You're supporting his weakness in defending American troops, and calling them losers and suckers.. You're supporting his weakening of our national security by giving classified information to Putin. You're supporting his undermining our democracy by trying to overthrow a free and open election. You don't have a place in this country if you'd rather be part of the destruction of democracy. Get the hell out. (edit: clarify my thoughts) Trump has been pulling troops out of that region of the world . He has 4 peace agreements . He never said that about the troops, unless you agree with “ anonymous sources” just like the anonymous whistleblower. Even John Bolton said it was false and he certainly is not a buddy of his. The navy cancelled the helicopter flight due to bad weather. And his work on redoing the VA dept. and hospitals is also good. If he is such a racist, why did he dump so much money into opportunity zones, black colleges, and sign criminal reform? What is your problem? Get therapy. This is exactly why I can’t stand talking to stupid people. Not worth my time.
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Post by uwphoto on Dec 21, 2020 16:21:09 GMT -8
The far right nuts are down to QAnon members Sydney Powell and Michael Flynn to further their anti American..literally fuggin insane agenda. Meanwhile trump quit weeks ago. Saddest period in American history. Oh, and people like tuff should have been banned a long time ago for calling for the death of "Socialists" on this forum. He doesn't even know what it means. Everybody who hates trump, which is prolly 60% of Americans? People on Medicare and unemployment? Regulators that keep a pig farm from setting up camp next to his house? Trump has succeeded in making us the dumbest country in the world...and yes, I do take responsibility for the rare f-bomb on here..but some of these people are way off the cliff. Lol. Can’t talk to stupid. You know, over at FOXnews.com they allow you to wish entire segments of the US population dead. Maybe you'd be better suited over there. "I love the poorly educated".
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Post by podpeople on Dec 21, 2020 16:22:50 GMT -8
I'm sorry, but if you support Trump, you are supporting the $#!+ that comes out of his mouth. you're Supporting the confederate monuments. You're supporting white nationalism and racism. You're supporting fascism and propaganda. You're supporting his weakness in defending American troops, and calling them losers and suckers.. You're supporting his weakening of our national security by giving classified information to Putin. You're supporting his undermining our democracy by trying to overthrow a free and open election. You don't have a place in this country if you'd rather be part of the destruction of democracy. Get the hell out. (edit: clarify my thoughts) Trump has been pulling troops out of that region of the world . He has 4 peace agreements . He never said that about the troops, unless you agree with “ anonymous sources” just like the anonymous whistleblower. Even John Bolton said it was false and he certainly is not a buddy of his. The navy cancelled the helicopter flight due to bad weather. And his work on redoing the VA dept. and hospitals is also good. If he is such a racist, why did he dump so much money into opportunity zones, black colleges, and sign criminal reform? What is your problem? Get therapy. This is exactly why I can’t stand talking to stupid people. Not worth my time. You make me ashamed to be an American. You and your fellow Trumpers can go to hell. Go cheer for Donald Trump and his proud boys, his white supremacy, his fascist agenda, his children in cages, his grabbing women, His reality TV career, his idolizing the racist Ronald Reagan... Yeah, I grew up in this America where I was treated as a second class citizen for a long time, and I did go to therapy for it. How about you? You're the one clinging to Donald Trump for some form of Identity of power and strength. good luck with that. He lost the election, and now he has to face the SDNY. He'll spend the rest of his days locked up in legal battles.
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Post by tuff on Dec 21, 2020 16:27:33 GMT -8
Lol. Can’t talk to stupid. You know, over at FOXnews.com they allow you to wish entire segments of the US population dead. Maybe you'd be better suited over there. "I love the poorly educated". Yeah. Poorly educated. My family went to USC, Stanford, Rice, UCLA and Houston. I guess I am poorly educated because I went to State, the lowest on the totem pole. But they aren’t, and they despise anything and everything socialist. So keep pushing all those generalizations about folks who don’t think remotely the way you do. You know, all poorly educated. Lol.
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Post by tuff on Dec 21, 2020 16:29:59 GMT -8
Trump has been pulling troops out of that region of the world . He has 4 peace agreements . He never said that about the troops, unless you agree with “ anonymous sources” just like the anonymous whistleblower. Even John Bolton said it was false and he certainly is not a buddy of his. The navy cancelled the helicopter flight due to bad weather. And his work on redoing the VA dept. and hospitals is also good. If he is such a racist, why did he dump so much money into opportunity zones, black colleges, and sign criminal reform? What is your problem? Get therapy. This is exactly why I can’t stand talking to stupid people. Not worth my time. You make me ashamed to be an American. You and your fellow Trumpers can go to hell. Go cheer for Donald Trump and his proud boys, his white supremacy, his fascist agenda, his children in cages, his grabbing women, His reality TV career, his idolizing the racist Ronald Reagan... Yeah, I grew up in this America where I was treated as a second class citizen for a long time, and I did go to therapy for it. How about you? You're the one clinging to Donald Trump for some form of Identity of power and strength. good luck with that. He lost the election, and now he has to face the SDNY. He'll spend the rest of his days locked up in legal battles. Obama put them in cages, first. No. I believe in limited government and capitalism. Not in any form of government control. Because we all know they do such a bang up job.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 21, 2020 16:47:17 GMT -8
You make me ashamed to be an American. You and your fellow Trumpers can go to hell. Go cheer for Donald Trump and his proud boys, his white supremacy, his fascist agenda, his children in cages, his grabbing women, His reality TV career, his idolizing the racist Ronald Reagan... Yeah, I grew up in this America where I was treated as a second class citizen for a long time, and I did go to therapy for it. How about you? You're the one clinging to Donald Trump for some form of Identity of power and strength. good luck with that. He lost the election, and now he has to face the SDNY. He'll spend the rest of his days locked up in legal battles. Obama put them in cages, first. No. I believe in limited government and capitalism. Not in any form of government control. Because we all know they do such a bang up job. Donald Trump's a REALLY poor example of limited government. He's not even really conservative. It's possible to oppose him and still be principled in a general sense.
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Post by uwphoto on Dec 21, 2020 17:39:51 GMT -8
You know, over at FOXnews.com they allow you to wish entire segments of the US population dead. Maybe you'd be better suited over there. "I love the poorly educated". Yeah. Poorly educated. My family went to USC, Stanford, Rice, UCLA and Houston. I guess I am poorly educated because I went to State, the lowest on the totem pole. But they aren’t, and they despise anything and everything socialist. So keep pushing all those generalizations about folks who don’t think remotely the way you do. You know, all poorly educated. Lol. Hmmm. Since you are so well educated, why don't you define for us what a socialist is in our society? ..and why do you want them all dead?
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Dec 22, 2020 6:28:52 GMT -8
Trump has been pulling troops out of that region of the world . He has 4 peace agreements . He never said that about the troops, unless you agree with “ anonymous sources” just like the anonymous whistleblower. Even John Bolton said it was false and he certainly is not a buddy of his. The navy cancelled the helicopter flight due to bad weather. And his work on redoing the VA dept. and hospitals is also good. If he is such a racist, why did he dump so much money into opportunity zones, black colleges, and sign criminal reform? What is your problem? Get therapy. This is exactly why I can’t stand talking to stupid people. Not worth my time. You make me ashamed to be an American. You and your fellow Trumpers can go to hell. Go cheer for Donald Trump and his proud boys, his white supremacy, his fascist agenda, his children in cages, his grabbing women, His reality TV career, his idolizing the racist Ronald Reagan... Yeah, I grew up in this America where I was treated as a second class citizen for a long time, and I did go to therapy for it. How about you? You're the one clinging to Donald Trump for some form of Identity of power and strength. good luck with that. He lost the election, and now he has to face the SDNY. He'll spend the rest of his days locked up in legal battles. What makes you say Trump is fascist?
I'm not here to defend him because I don't like him either but I can't stand it when people say he's fascist. The left seems far more fascist to me (especially over the last year), yet they claim the party that is pro individual freedoms and low taxes is fascist
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