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Post by aztecryan on Sept 23, 2020 10:27:03 GMT -8
The expected (and cowardly) decision from Attorney General Daniel Cameron handed out today means that none of the three officers who murdered Breonna Taylor will be charged directly in her death.
As stated repeatedly, we have two separate, unequal justice systems in this country. This decision and ludicrious adjudication just reinforces that statement.
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Post by ptsdthor on Sept 23, 2020 12:59:15 GMT -8
By the way, how was your time on that Grand Jury?
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 23, 2020 13:13:58 GMT -8
By the way, how was your time on that Grand Jury? That's true. We have no idea what exactly was presented to them. |
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 23, 2020 13:19:11 GMT -8
By the way, how was your time on that Grand Jury? That's true. We have no idea what exactly was presented to them. "Insert nonsense here." "That's true, even though I have no idea what I'm talking about." |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 23, 2020 13:45:32 GMT -8
The news just came across that ballistics does not indicate who fired the shot that killed Breonna Taylor. On the other hand, it also was announced that the police did not fire until after one of the people in the home fired first, injuring one officer. However one feels about the origin of the police action, it is totally wrong to assume that the police murdered Ms Taylor. Clearly, plenty of people take the attitude that police are guilty irrespective of the facts in the case.
Oh, yes. News says that a neighbor heard the police say "This the police" at the beginning of the action.
AzWm
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 23, 2020 13:54:07 GMT -8
The news just came across that ballistics does not indicate who fired the shot that killed Breonna Taylor. On the other hand, it also was announced that the police did not fire until after one of the people in the home fired first, injuring one officer. However one feels about the origin of the police action, it is totally wrong to assume that the police murdered Ms Taylor. Clearly, plenty of people take the attitude that police are guilty irrespective of the facts in the case. Oh, yes. News says that a neighbor heard the police say "This the police" at the beginning of the action. AzWm No idea what news you are reading, but the bullet was fired by Myles Cosgrove. Kentucky has a "Stand Your Ground" law which makes defending your home legal if you feel like your life is being threatened. This "witness" recanted a statement that originally said there was no announcement of any kind. Over a dozen additional witnesses reported hearing absolutely nothing. Pretty clear what happened in this instance. Police entered the home. They shot her multiple times. She's dead. That's murder, right? If I shoot someone and they died, that's a murder. Save the righteousness. It's misguided and misplaced. |
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 23, 2020 14:08:14 GMT -8
The news just came across that ballistics does not indicate who fired the shot that killed Breonna Taylor. On the other hand, it also was announced that the police did not fire until after one of the people in the home fired first, injuring one officer. However one feels about the origin of the police action, it is totally wrong to assume that the police murdered Ms Taylor. Clearly, plenty of people take the attitude that police are guilty irrespective of the facts in the case. Oh, yes. News says that a neighbor heard the police say "This the police" at the beginning of the action. AzWm No idea what news you are reading, but the bullet was fired by Myles Cosgrove. Kentucky has a "Stand Your Ground" law which makes defending your home legal if you feel like your life is being threatened. This "witness" recanted a statement that originally said there was no announcement of any kind. Police entered the home. They shot her multiple times. She's dead. That's murder, right? If I shoot someone and they did, that's a murder. Save the righteousness. It's misguided and misplaced. If the police did announce their presence and they were fired upon, which is actually understandable if he didn't hear them say it, I can understand the police firing back. It seems as though this is a very tragic, and horrible incident that took the life of a hard working woman. I just wish she wasn't hanging out with criminals, because it wouldn't have happened to her if she didn't. |
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 23, 2020 14:26:46 GMT -8
No idea what news you are reading, but the bullet was fired by Myles Cosgrove. Kentucky has a "Stand Your Ground" law which makes defending your home legal if you feel like your life is being threatened. This "witness" recanted a statement that originally said there was no announcement of any kind. Police entered the home. They shot her multiple times. She's dead. That's murder, right? If I shoot someone and they did, that's a murder. Save the righteousness. It's misguided and misplaced. If the police did announce their presence and they were fired upon, which is actually understandable if he didn't hear them say it, I can understand the police firing back. It seems as though this is a very tragic, and horrible incident that took the life of a hard working woman. I just wish she wasn't hanging out with criminals, because it wouldn't have happened to her if she didn't. File that under "things better left unsaid." This kind of unfounded rationalization is disgusting. What criminal was in the apartment? Just curious. |
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 23, 2020 15:44:56 GMT -8
If the police did announce their presence and they were fired upon, which is actually understandable if he didn't hear them say it, I can understand the police firing back. It seems as though this is a very tragic, and horrible incident that took the life of a hard working woman. I just wish she wasn't hanging out with criminals, because it wouldn't have happened to her if she didn't. File that under "things better left unsaid." This kind of unfounded rationalization is disgusting. What criminal was in the apartment? Just curious. I'm saying that her ex boyfriend was a drug criminal and she kept a passive relationship with him and they had packages going back and forth from apartments which created suspicion. So, I wish that he was completely out of her life so there was zero suspicion. Like I said, this should have never happened, especially to a very good, hard working woman. Very sad. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Sept 23, 2020 15:56:06 GMT -8
That's true. We have no idea what exactly was presented to them. "Insert nonsense here." "That's true, even though I have no idea what I'm talking about." I think you are getting the idea. |
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 23, 2020 16:00:40 GMT -8
That's true. We have no idea what exactly was presented to them. "Insert nonsense here." "That's true, even though I have no idea what I'm talking about." I guess you're part of the Grand Jury. What was presented to you? |
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Post by tuff on Sept 23, 2020 16:11:29 GMT -8
I’ll live.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 23, 2020 16:23:19 GMT -8
"Insert nonsense here." "That's true, even though I have no idea what I'm talking about." I guess you're part of the Grand Jury. What was presented to you? The lengths people will go to to defend actions like this is mindnumbing. Parrot. |
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 23, 2020 16:27:00 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 23, 2020 16:28:10 GMT -8
I guess you're part of the Grand Jury. What was presented to you? The lengths people will go to to defend actions like this is mindnumbing. Parrot. I forgot that people of this ilk care more about the property than the people. I'll dig around and find the condition of the wall that was damaged. |
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 23, 2020 16:31:00 GMT -8
I guess you're part of the Grand Jury. What was presented to you? The lengths people will go to to defend actions like this is mindnumbing. Parrot. And, you're just parroting the other side. Serious question. Do you know what evidence was presented to the Grand Jury? Maybe you have connections and are privy to this information? |
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 23, 2020 16:32:35 GMT -8
The lengths people will go to to defend actions like this is mindnumbing. Parrot. I forgot that people of this ilk care more about the property than the people. I'll dig around and find the condition of the wall that was damaged. You must not be talking about me, because I said over and over that she was a very good person and it was a horrible thing to happen, so don't quote that over me. |
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 23, 2020 16:42:47 GMT -8
The lengths people will go to to defend actions like this is mindnumbing. Parrot. And, you're just parroting the other side. Serious question. Do you know what evidence was presented to the Grand Jury? Maybe you have connections and are privy to this information? You copy and pasted someone else's question because you have no original thought on the topic. It's very simple. They knew this was coming days in advance (They boarded up buildings in recent days to protect them from damage) - You'll be happy to know that. An unarmed, innocent person was shot six times. She had no criminal record. The man she was living with wasn't even named in the warrant. There is no body cam footage (convenient, right?) to corroborate any of the statements made by the AG, the officers, witnesses, literally anyone. Officer Hankinson violated department policy, firing blindly without a line of sight. This is the second death in Louisville under this police department's watch. A wrongful death suit has been filed for the June 1st murder of David McAtee...during a protest about police brutality. (No bodycam footage there, either.) As mentioned, Kentucky is a Stand Your Ground state. Kenneth Walker had a legal carry license and was entitled to a defense of his "castle" as stated under that law. Furthermore, the ex-boyfriend with drug offenses (not a reason to kill someone, at last check) was offered a plea deal to implicate Breonna Taylor after her death to tarnish her image and justify the shooting. 3 white police officers, 1 person of color, 2 justice systems. The lone charges filed fall under a class that includes such charges as eavesdropping and vandalism. The wall and the neighboring citizens literally got more respect in this case than the dead person, who wasn't even rendered any aid while she bled to death. If this was an isolated incident, you would get more latitude. It isn't the case, though. Meanwhile, full blown rioting in Louisville underway, yet there are armed militia down there as we speak basically given the freedom to do whatever as protesting citizens were rounded up en masse (before any inciting of violence occurred.) |
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 23, 2020 16:56:52 GMT -8
And, you're just parroting the other side. Serious question. Do you know what evidence was presented to the Grand Jury? Maybe you have connections and are privy to this information? You copy and pasted someone else's question because you have no original thought on the topic. It's very simple. They knew this was coming days in advance (They boarded up buildings in recent days to protect them from damage) - You'll be happy to know that. An unarmed, innocent person was shot six times. She had no criminal record. The man she was living with wasn't even named in the warrant. There is no body cam footage (convenient, right?) to corroborate any of the statements made by the AG, the officers, witnesses, literally anyone. Officer Hankinson violated department policy, firing blindly without a line of sight. This is the second death in Louisville under this police department's watch. A wrongful death suit has been filed for the June 1st murder of David McAtee...during a protest about police brutality. (No bodycam footage there, either.) As mentioned, Kentucky is a Stand Your Ground state. Kenneth Walker had a legal carry license and was entitled to a defense of his "castle" as stated under that law. Furthermore, the ex-boyfriend with drug offenses (not a reason to kill someone, at last check) was offered a plea deal to implicate Breonna Taylor after her death to tarnish her image and justify the shooting. 3 white police officers, 1 person of color, 2 justice systems. The lone charges filed fall under a class that includes such charges as eavesdropping and vandalism. The wall literally got more respect in this case than the dead person, who wasn't even rendered any aid while she bled to death. I didn't copy and paste anything. That was also my question to you. No need for originality. It's an appropriate question since you seem to know what the Grand Jury heard. And, yes, Hankison was charged. His bullet didn't strike Breonna. Of course they're going to board up their businesses. You see what's going on with the country? I know all about Kentucky's laws. Like I said previously, he had a right to shoot if he didn't hear them announce themselves, and after the shots, what are the police officers supposed to do? Take the time to see where they came from and who exactly shot at them? I'm sure it was dark as well. Like I said, it was a VERY tragic incident. I wish it didn't happen. |
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 23, 2020 17:02:14 GMT -8
You copy and pasted someone else's question because you have no original thought on the topic. It's very simple. They knew this was coming days in advance (They boarded up buildings in recent days to protect them from damage) - You'll be happy to know that. An unarmed, innocent person was shot six times. She had no criminal record. The man she was living with wasn't even named in the warrant. There is no body cam footage (convenient, right?) to corroborate any of the statements made by the AG, the officers, witnesses, literally anyone. Officer Hankinson violated department policy, firing blindly without a line of sight. This is the second death in Louisville under this police department's watch. A wrongful death suit has been filed for the June 1st murder of David McAtee...during a protest about police brutality. (No bodycam footage there, either.) As mentioned, Kentucky is a Stand Your Ground state. Kenneth Walker had a legal carry license and was entitled to a defense of his "castle" as stated under that law. Furthermore, the ex-boyfriend with drug offenses (not a reason to kill someone, at last check) was offered a plea deal to implicate Breonna Taylor after her death to tarnish her image and justify the shooting. 3 white police officers, 1 person of color, 2 justice systems. The lone charges filed fall under a class that includes such charges as eavesdropping and vandalism. The wall literally got more respect in this case than the dead person, who wasn't even rendered any aid while she bled to death. I didn't copy and paste anything. That was also my question to you. No need for originality. It's an appropriate question since you seem to know what the Grand Jury heard. And, yes, Hankison was charged. His bullet didn't strike Breonna. Of course they're going to board up their businesses. You see what's going on with the country? I know all about Kentucky's laws. Like I said previously, he had a right to shoot if he didn't hear them announce themselves, and after the shots, what are the police officers supposed to do? Take the time to see where they came from and who exactly shot at them? I'm sure it was dark as well. Like I said, it was a VERY tragic incident. I wish it didn't happen. You may understand the law, but you don't seem to grasp the obvious here - A separation of civilization where those in power get protected and the innocent die without cause or justice. No charges were going to be filed, it was a long con because Daniel Cameron has (further) political aspirations and the backing of really powerful folks that allow for this miscarriage of justice. We'll never hear the actual witness statements, we're left to trust the word of public officials who lied their ass off to the victim's family. Neutrality and transparency is dead, much like Breonna. |
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