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Post by AztecBill on Jul 24, 2020 21:15:12 GMT -8
How stacked is the Padres bullpen? Guerra, who I forgot about, was throwing 100MPH with 90MPH sliders. Padres easily have the best BP in the NL.
Nice to see Grisham getting his first Padres hit. Meanwhile in Milwakee neither Laurer nor Urias is on the opening day roster. Laurer was injurwd in ST and is just coming back. Grisham and Davis both ready to contribute here. Way too early to judge the trade but happy with it so far.
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Post by aardvark on Jul 24, 2020 21:43:14 GMT -8
How stacked is the Padres bullpen? Guerra, who I forgot about, was throwing 100MPH with 90MPH sliders. Padres easily have the best BP in the NL. Nice to see Grisham getting his first Padres hit. Meanwhile in Milwakee neither Laurer nor Urias is on the opening day roster. Laurer was injurwd in ST and is just coming back. Grisham and Davis both ready to contribute here. Way too early to judge the trade but happy with it so far. Guerra is going to help the Padres much more in the bullpen than he ever would have as a SS. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 9:48:16 GMT -8
How stacked is the Padres bullpen? Guerra, who I forgot about, was throwing 100MPH with 90MPH sliders. Padres easily have the best BP in the NL. Nice to see Grisham getting his first Padres hit. Meanwhile in Milwakee neither Laurer nor Urias is on the opening day roster. Laurer was injurwd in ST and is just coming back. Grisham and Davis both ready to contribute here. Way too early to judge the trade but happy with it so far. I said to my Padres fan buddies, and on this board before that I wasn't too bullish on Urias. I saw him as a dime a dozen infielder, overrated as a prospect. So far, I was right -- but it's early. I am not rooting against him, I hope he kicks ass. Preller has made some good trades. As an Indians fan, I love having FRANIMAL but I understand he wasn't as needed in SD (though it would have been nice w/ the new DH bit...) I think it was a good deal for both sides, though I am not a big Cimber fan. Loved the Grisham deal. |
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 28, 2020 16:27:23 GMT -8
How stacked is the Padres bullpen? Guerra, who I forgot about, was throwing 100MPH with 90MPH sliders. Padres easily have the best BP in the NL. Nice to see Grisham getting his first Padres hit. Meanwhile in Milwakee neither Laurer nor Urias is on the opening day roster. Laurer was injurwd in ST and is just coming back. Grisham and Davis both ready to contribute here. Way too early to judge the trade but happy with it so far. I said to my Padres fan buddies, and on this board before that I wasn't too bullish on Urias. I saw him as a dime a dozen infielder, overrated as a prospect. So far, I was right -- but it's early. I am not rooting against him, I hope he kicks ass. Preller has made some good trades. As an Indians fan, I love having FRANIMAL but I understand he wasn't as needed in SD (though it would have been nice w/ the new DH bit...) I think it was a good deal for both sides, though I am not a big Cimber fan. Loved the Grisham deal. We will see the other half of that trade today. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 28, 2020 16:55:29 GMT -8
How stacked is the Padres bullpen? Guerra, who I forgot about, was throwing 100MPH with 90MPH sliders. Padres easily have the best BP in the NL. Nice to see Grisham getting his first Padres hit. Meanwhile in Milwakee neither Laurer nor Urias is on the opening day roster. Laurer was injurwd in ST and is just coming back. Grisham and Davis both ready to contribute here. Way too early to judge the trade but happy with it so far. I said to my Padres fan buddies, and on this board before that I wasn't too bullish on Urias. I saw him as a dime a dozen infielder, overrated as a prospect. So far, I was right -- but it's early. I am not rooting against him, I hope he kicks ass. Preller has made some good trades. As an Indians fan, I love having FRANIMAL but I understand he wasn't as needed in SD (though it would have been nice w/ the new DH bit...) I think it was a good deal for both sides, though I am not a big Cimber fan. Loved the Grisham deal. Trent Grisham is a future above average regular. Really think that trade is going to look lopsided in a couple years. |
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 29, 2020 19:41:52 GMT -8
I said to my Padres fan buddies, and on this board before that I wasn't too bullish on Urias. I saw him as a dime a dozen infielder, overrated as a prospect. So far, I was right -- but it's early. I am not rooting against him, I hope he kicks ass. Preller has made some good trades. As an Indians fan, I love having FRANIMAL but I understand he wasn't as needed in SD (though it would have been nice w/ the new DH bit...) I think it was a good deal for both sides, though I am not a big Cimber fan. Loved the Grisham deal. We will see the other half of that trade today. Davis looked great, making the trade look even better. |
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Post by aardvark on Aug 18, 2020 13:40:03 GMT -8
And as much as I want Guerra to succeed out of the bullpen, he is quickly pitching his way to USD.
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Post by azson on Aug 18, 2020 15:42:56 GMT -8
How stacked is the Padres bullpen? Guerra, who I forgot about, was throwing 100MPH with 90MPH sliders. Padres easily have the best BP in the NL.Nice to see Grisham getting his first Padres hit. Meanwhile in Milwakee neither Laurer nor Urias is on the opening day roster. Laurer was injurwd in ST and is just coming back. Grisham and Davis both ready to contribute here. Way too early to judge the trade but happy with it so far. Yet another example of "on paper" not accounting for much. |
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Post by aardvark on Aug 18, 2020 17:06:35 GMT -8
How stacked is the Padres bullpen? Guerra, who I forgot about, was throwing 100MPH with 90MPH sliders. Padres easily have the best BP in the NL.Nice to see Grisham getting his first Padres hit. Meanwhile in Milwakee neither Laurer nor Urias is on the opening day roster. Laurer was injurwd in ST and is just coming back. Grisham and Davis both ready to contribute here. Way too early to judge the trade but happy with it so far. Yet another example of "on paper" not accounting for much. Kind of like the old adage that prospects are suspects until they produce. Some have. Some haven't. But however you look at it, with a few exceptions, the bullpen just isn't very good right now. |
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 18, 2020 17:29:28 GMT -8
Yet another example of "on paper" not accounting for much. Kind of like the old adage that prospects are suspects until they produce. Some have. Some haven't. But however you look at it, with a few exceptions, the bullpen just isn't very good right now. They sure aren't preforming now. My statement was based on known entities, mostly. |
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Post by aardvark on Aug 18, 2020 19:11:54 GMT -8
Kind of like the old adage that prospects are suspects until they produce. Some have. Some haven't. But however you look at it, with a few exceptions, the bullpen just isn't very good right now. They sure aren't preforming now. My statement was based on known entities, mostly. For the most part, what they are known for currently is a failure to produce. But you wouldn't have expected that. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 18, 2020 21:12:17 GMT -8
They sure aren't preforming now. My statement was based on known entities, mostly. For the most part, what they are known for currently is a failure to produce. But you wouldn't have expected that. Guerra is going nowhere. |
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Post by aardvark on Aug 18, 2020 22:11:07 GMT -8
For the most part, what they are known for currently is a failure to produce. But you wouldn't have expected that. Guerra is going nowhere. Guerra does throw very hard. The problem is, they get put in play. A lot. 42 batters faced. 19 hits allowed. 3 walks. 13 runs allowed (12 earned). His WHIP is 3.00, which is almost twice as high as the next highest pitcher on the club. Not to mention his ERA, which twice as high as anyone on the club. I want him to succeed. But right now, he is hurting the ball club. A lot. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 18, 2020 22:15:14 GMT -8
Guerra does throw very hard. The problem is, they get put in play. A lot. 42 batters faced. 19 hits allowed. 3 walks. 13 runs allowed (12 earned). His WHIP is 3.00, which is almost twice as high as the next highest pitcher on the club. Not to mention his ERA, which twice as high as anyone on the club. I want him to succeed. But right now, he is hurting the ball club. A lot. I understand. But he can't be optioned and you don't throw guys away that throw 100 with a plus slider after 18 months. Continue to put him in low leverage spots and let him work through it. |
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Post by aardvark on Aug 18, 2020 22:17:12 GMT -8
Guerra does throw very hard. The problem is, they get put in play. A lot. 42 batters faced. 19 hits allowed. 3 walks. 13 runs allowed (12 earned). His WHIP is 3.00, which is almost twice as high as the next highest pitcher on the club. Not to mention his ERA, which twice as high as anyone on the club. I want him to succeed. But right now, he is hurting the ball club. A lot. I understand. But he can't be optioned and you don't throw guys away that throw 100 with a plus slider after 18 months. Continue to put him in low leverage spots and let him work through it. Well then. If he has no options remaining, then I am an idiot. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 18, 2020 22:24:07 GMT -8
I understand. But he can't be optioned and you don't throw guys away that throw 100 with a plus slider after 18 months. Continue to put him in low leverage spots and let him work through it. Well then. If he has no options remaining, then I am an idiot. A lot of folks didn't realize that at first, but he was optioned as a position player before the conversion. And they would absolutely lose him if he was exposed to waivers. The pen as a whole has two major problems : Injuries and a decline in strikeouts. K's/9 are down over a full batter from last year and they are allowing a ton of traffic on the bases. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 5:51:06 GMT -8
Guerra is complete trash. Just another guy who throws hard, but doesnt know how to pitch. With guys like this, you wouldn't mind having Balsley around to assist -- dude always did well as a pitching coach.
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"Once viewed as potentially the biggest piece in the return for Craig Kimbrel (Manuel Margot, Logan Allen and Carlos Asuaje were also in that trade), Guerra debuted in September 2019 a shortstop and even competed at the position all last spring. An inability to make consistent contact led the Padres to move his plus-plus arm to the mound after camp. The transition went so well that Guerra made his professional debut in June in the California League, was promoted to Double-A Amarillo in August and returned to the big leagues as a reliever in September. Guerra struck out six batters in 8 2/3 innings but also allowed three homers, walked three and posted a 5.19 ERA in the reintroduction. A four-seamer that’s been up to 100 mph, combined with a power slider, is something to dream on, but Guerra will have to develop quickly if he’s to remain a Padre as he’s out of options and can’t be sent to the minors without hitting the waiver wire first."
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 19, 2020 13:02:05 GMT -8
Guerra is complete trash. Just another guy who throws hard, but doesnt know how to pitch. With guys like this, you wouldn't mind having Balsley around to assist -- dude always did well as a pitching coach. -- "Once viewed as potentially the biggest piece in the return for Craig Kimbrel (Manuel Margot, Logan Allen and Carlos Asuaje were also in that trade), Guerra debuted in September 2019 a shortstop and even competed at the position all last spring. An inability to make consistent contact led the Padres to move his plus-plus arm to the mound after camp. The transition went so well that Guerra made his professional debut in June in the California League, was promoted to Double-A Amarillo in August and returned to the big leagues as a reliever in September. Guerra struck out six batters in 8 2/3 innings but also allowed three homers, walked three and posted a 5.19 ERA in the reintroduction. A four-seamer that’s been up to 100 mph, combined with a power slider, is something to dream on, but Guerra will have to develop quickly if he’s to remain a Padre as he’s out of options and can’t be sent to the minors without hitting the waiver wire first." -UT He's only been pitching since last April. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 13:14:03 GMT -8
I'm aware.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 19, 2020 13:36:39 GMT -8
Then I think patience should be awarded here. Not an easy conversion, especially during these times. A full offseason should do wonders for him. The bullpen struggles are not unique to the Padres this year. |
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