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Post by AztecWilliam on May 4, 2010 9:31:33 GMT -8
Evidence just released about the Kent State riot of 1970 indicates that there may have been planning by the rioters that lead to the fatal shots. I know, this is just short of wondering about the disappearance of Judge Crater or what really happened to the battleship Maine. Still, if that incident was more than just an unplanned demonstration that went bad, we should know about it. www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/04/new-light-shed-on-kent-state-killings/?page=2AzWm |
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Post by aztecwin on May 4, 2010 14:34:25 GMT -8
Interesting, but had not the idea of snipers and a contrived incident by the left been explored before? Just what part of this is new?
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Post by davdesid on May 4, 2010 15:21:39 GMT -8
Jim Webb, in his book, 'Born Fighting', said: "Among those who served in combat, the incident was tragic but hardly emblematic, and the media attention given to it seemed disproportionate if not absurd... And how many US soldiers were killed in Vietnam that week? No one in the media seemed to know or care. The bitterness over this disparity in media treatment ran deep."
Twenty-four Americans were killed in Vietnam on May 4, 1970. The names of the Kent State martyrs are engraved forever.
But for anyone who cares about the anonymous, the names of the 24 are:
Thomas O. Alberg
James E. Rimmer
James G. Anderson
Dean I. Bonneau
Ronald Chisholm
Stephen B. Emery
Leon Garnett, jr.
James F. Hopkins
George E. Hussey
Tommy Kearsley
Floyd W. Lamb, jr.
Armando Cervera Luna
Larry Mattingly
Richard W. Paquette
Dean Aitken
Theodore Roberts
Albert C. Smith
Rodney A. Taylor
Eddie G. Farrell
Robert V. Thompson
Wayne L. Torsiello
Michael A. Vancovsky
Larry L. Watkins
Douglas L. Winfrey
Just so you know....
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Post by AztecWilliam on May 5, 2010 8:31:14 GMT -8
Jim Webb, in his book, 'Born Fighting', said: "Among those who served in combat, the incident was tragic but hardly emblematic, and the media attention given to it seemed disproportionate if not absurd... And how many US soldiers were killed in Vietnam that week? No one in the media seemed to know or care. The bitterness over this disparity in media treatment ran deep." Twenty-four Americans were killed in Vietnam on May 4, 1970. The names of the Kent State martyrs are engraved forever. But for anyone who cares about the anonymous, the names of the 24 are: Thomas O. Alberg James E. Rimmer James G. Anderson Dean I. Bonneau Ronald Chisholm Stephen B. Emery Leon Garnett, jr. James F. Hopkins George E. Hussey Tommy Kearsley Floyd W. Lamb, jr. Armando Cervera Luna Larry Mattingly Richard W. Paquette Dean Aitken Theodore Roberts Albert C. Smith Rodney A. Taylor Eddie G. Farrell Robert V. Thompson Wayne L. Torsiello Michael A. Vancovsky Larry L. Watkins Douglas L. Winfrey Just so you know.... Well said! You know, there are plenty of Americans, roughly of my age, who as young men were totally anti-war to the point of being anti-American, who go about enjoying their comfortable late middle age these days with no apparent guilt about some of the things they did and said 40 years ago. Meanwhile, close to 60 thousand Americans never got the chance to reach middle age due to the fact that they did not run off to Canada or otherwise dodge the draft. One such is William Jefferson Clinton. When was the last time that ol' Bill speak out against the brutal police state that has ruled Vietnam with an iron fist for the past three and a half decades? Yeah, I can't remember any such statement by him, either. By the way, speaking of Sen. Webb, my admiration for him has taken a severe nosedive as it has become clear how much in the tank for Obama he is. Of all the Democrats, I had hoped he would be perhaps the only one to stand up and say, "Hey, this bill is crap!" But, no. He had the guts to disrespect George Bush to his face when the latter was simply inquiring about the wellbeing of the Senator's son, but no guts whatsoever when opposing The One would have been his greatest service to his country. What a disappointment!  AzWm |
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Post by uwaztec on May 5, 2010 13:18:01 GMT -8
Jim Webb, in his book, 'Born Fighting', said: "Among those who served in combat, the incident was tragic but hardly emblematic, and the media attention given to it seemed disproportionate if not absurd... And how many US soldiers were killed in Vietnam that week? No one in the media seemed to know or care. The bitterness over this disparity in media treatment ran deep." Twenty-four Americans were killed in Vietnam on May 4, 1970. The names of the Kent State martyrs are engraved forever. But for anyone who cares about the anonymous, the names of the 24 are: Thomas O. Alberg James E. Rimmer James G. Anderson Dean I. Bonneau Ronald Chisholm Stephen B. Emery Leon Garnett, jr. James F. Hopkins George E. Hussey Tommy Kearsley Floyd W. Lamb, jr. Armando Cervera Luna Larry Mattingly Richard W. Paquette Dean Aitken Theodore Roberts Albert C. Smith Rodney A. Taylor Eddie G. Farrell Robert V. Thompson Wayne L. Torsiello Michael A. Vancovsky Larry L. Watkins Douglas L. Winfrey Just so you know.... Well said! You know, there are plenty of Americans, roughly of my age, who as young men were totally anti-war to the point of being anti-American, who go about enjoying their comfortable late middle age these days with no apparent guilt about some of the things they did and said 40 years ago. Meanwhile, close to 60 thousand Americans never got the chance to reach middle age due to the fact that they did not run off to Canada or otherwise dodge the draft. One such is William Jefferson Clinton. When was the last time that ol' Bill speak out against the brutal police state that has ruled Vietnam with an iron fist for the past three and a half decades? Yeah, I can't remember any such statement by him, either. By the way, speaking of Sen. Webb, my admiration for him has taken a severe nosedive as it has become clear how much in the tank for Obama he is. Of all the Democrats, I had hoped he would be perhaps the only one to stand up and say, "Hey, this bill is crap!" But, no. He had the guts to disrespect George Bush to his face when the latter was simply inquiring about the wellbeing of the Senator's son, but no guts whatsoever when opposing The One would have been his greatest service to his country. What a disappointment! AzWm William, I think you mis-characterize Vietnam for the last couple decades. I have friends who have freely visted there within the last 5 years and considered it a "great destination". Here is what Wiki says: By 2000, it had established diplomatic relations with most nations. Its economic growth had been among the highest in the world in the past decade.[vague] These efforts resulted in Vietnam joining the World Trade Organization in 2007. And as far as Clinton... you can add Limbaugh, O'reilly and a ton of other "conservative" names that found creative ways to avoid service there..... geez, you are more biased than I thought! |
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Post by aztecwin on May 5, 2010 19:20:12 GMT -8
Are we getting a little off track here? Is there anything new about this or just another rehash?
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