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Post by aztecryan on Jun 2, 2020 8:36:00 GMT -8
I already blocked you days ago, but it's very simple and I will indulge you. If you value property and business over the root cause of this issue (sustained police brutality, racism, racial bias and a broken justice system), you are also indeed a hypocrite of massive proportions. If you openly endorse Donald Trump, which you do, you are a hypocrite on this issue. Looting and vandalism, with multiple groups of people involved, is a sad issue. Destruction of property is a sad issue. But it's nowhere near on the scale of murder, social injustice and insurrection. You cannot preach public safety and in the same breath rationalize, condone, marginalize, accept, promote, endorse, shrug, approve, support or tolerate what happened yesterday. Not even a little bit. So you rationalize and condone murder, injury & mayhem and must think that violence is a viable means for political redress and all because you don't like Trump's style! Wow! To the officers who have been killed trying to do their duty faithfully, it's awful. There is no excuse for that. If you think this has anything to do with Trump's style, you're once again missing the boat and not arguing in good faith. I will leave it at that.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 2, 2020 8:37:39 GMT -8
If a senior White House official can do it, I'm sure you can find the courage. I don't know anything about her and her background. And there it is.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 2, 2020 8:44:59 GMT -8
Ben Sasse is a Republican senator from Nebraska.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 2, 2020 8:53:54 GMT -8
Ben Sasse is a Republican senator from Nebraska. That's his opinion and he's entitled to it, Republican or not, that doesn't mean he's correct Many say it wasn't a photo op and he was standing up for the church that just got burned down.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 2, 2020 8:55:20 GMT -8
I don't know anything about her and her background. And there it is. That's her take on it, and she's wrong.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jun 2, 2020 8:57:37 GMT -8
This is the type of logic (illogic really) we are dealing with here. Mark Cuban says "I used to think treating people equally meant treating them the same. Like it was a math equation. I was wrong. I’m learning that treating people equally means treating them with equal amounts of respect, for who they are and what they have experienced." Oh now so lets not treat people equally. Some are more equal. Where have I heard that before?? How does one legislate that? How does one teach that?
First off, the leftist's immediate lurch to claim racism as the cause for nearly everything wrong in the US only serves to balkanize and not to cure anything. The term "White people" is racist but it is being thrown around a lot now by people who walk around thinking themselves virtuous. Do you know how many Americans are of mixed race? Tell me about that Obama? Mark? What do you say of the racism that the left has for "over represented" Asians, for example? What are they doing about that? Racism is a cancer and it can't be addressed if one political party claims it as their own exclusive political pugil stick.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 2, 2020 8:58:22 GMT -8
Ben Sasse is a Republican senator from Nebraska. That's his opinion and he's entitled to it, Republican or not, that doesn't mean he's correct Many say it wasn't a photo op and he was standing up for the church that just got burned down. Literally nobody besides Marco Rubio and Scott Walker, towing GOP lines. No church got burned down. It sustained minor fire damage from agitators not associated with the protesters. What you witnessed was blasphemy, plainly spoken. Inciting violence against peaceful protesters, live on television, then posing with a Bible. The church condemned it, the diocese condemned it, pastors around the country condemned it, but good old John just refuses to see the light. Edit : Noted trash human being John Cornyn also endorsed it. The same John Cornyn who is a known bigot.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 2, 2020 8:59:55 GMT -8
That's her take on it, and she's wrong. A senior White House official is wrong? How holy of you.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jun 2, 2020 11:45:13 GMT -8
That's her take on it, and she's wrong. A senior White House official is wrong? How holy of you. Resistance? Is that you?
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Post by ptsdthor on Jun 2, 2020 12:43:01 GMT -8
Can you calculate the extent of the failure by the Mayors and Governors who refused to protect their constituents in this nationwide crime spree? Liberal Governors were happily virtue signaling on their refusal to cooperate with Trump and not call out the National Guard to help stop the looting while people were killed, maimed & injured, lost business ownership, lost jobs, lost investments, lost community, lost conveniences, lost everything in many cases.
Of course, for some, the Mayors and Governors will never be at fault because they are Democrats and it will mostly be Trump's fault because, while having nothing to do with the original crime in Minneapolis, one night he stayed indoors and allowed the White House to be darkened when a mixed crowd of protestors and anarchists were outside and on another day he went outside to visit a desecrated historical Church in Washington DC amidst a mixed crowd of protestors and anarchists. How dare he! Doesn't he know that appearances are more important than personal safety and the protection of property?
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Post by 84aztec96 on Jun 2, 2020 12:48:44 GMT -8
Can you calculate the extent of the failure by the Mayors and Governors who refused to protect their constituents in this nationwide crime spree? Liberal Governors were happily virtue signaling on their refusal to cooperate with Trump and not call out the National Guard to help stop the looting while people were killed, maimed & injured, lost business ownership, lost jobs, lost investments, lost community, lost conveniences, lost everything in many cases. Of course, for some, the Mayors and Governors will never be at fault because they are Democrats and it will mostly be Trump's fault because, while having nothing to do with the original crime in Minneapolis, one night he stayed indoors and allowed the White House to be darkened when a mixed crowd of protestors and anarchists were outside and on another day he went outside to visit a desecrated historical Church in Washington DC amidst a mixed crowd of protestors and anarchists. How dare he! Doesn't he know that appearances are more important than personal safety and the protection of property? Thank you. Well stated.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 2, 2020 12:50:31 GMT -8
Can you calculate the extent of the failure by the Mayors and Governors who refused to protect their constituents in this nationwide crime spree? Liberal Governors were happily virtue signaling on their refusal to cooperate with Trump and not call out the National Guard to help stop the looting while people were killed, maimed & injured, lost business ownership, lost jobs, lost investments, lost community, lost conveniences, lost everything in many cases. Of course, for some, the Mayors and Governors will never be at fault because they are Democrats and it will mostly be Trump's fault because, while having nothing to do with the original crime in Minneapolis, one night he stayed indoors and allowed the White House to be darkened when a mixed crowd of protestors and anarchists were outside and on another day he went outside to visit a desecrated historical Church in Washington DC amidst a mixed crowd of protestors and anarchists. How dare he! Doesn't he know that appearances are more important than personal safety and the protection of property? Thank you. Well stated. Laughable.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jun 2, 2020 13:07:07 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 2, 2020 13:09:29 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 2, 2020 13:21:49 GMT -8
While some over here regurgitate the same points and trigger words (virtue signaling, leftists, liberal governors/mayors, Carter Page, other nonsense), those of us with our heads not in the clouds are actively looking for a difference. It isn't left, it isn't right. Those are two wings on the same bird. But if we're going to whistle about virtue signaling and these other foolhardy notions, let's talk about a party of complicit enablers, cowards and cronies.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 2, 2020 13:29:46 GMT -8
Can you calculate the extent of the failure by the Mayors and Governors who refused to protect their constituents in this nationwide crime spree? Liberal Governors were happily virtue signaling on their refusal to cooperate with Trump and not call out the National Guard to help stop the looting while people were killed, maimed & injured, lost business ownership, lost jobs, lost investments, lost community, lost conveniences, lost everything in many cases. Of course, for some, the Mayors and Governors will never be at fault because they are Democrats and it will mostly be Trump's fault because, while having nothing to do with the original crime in Minneapolis, one night he stayed indoors and allowed the White House to be darkened when a mixed crowd of protestors and anarchists were outside and on another day he went outside to visit a desecrated historical Church in Washington DC amidst a mixed crowd of protestors and anarchists. How dare he! Doesn't he know that appearances are more important than personal safety and the protection of property? The President simply can't win in any situation. It's ridiculous.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jun 2, 2020 13:31:06 GMT -8
While some over here regurgitate the same points and trigger words (virtue signaling, leftists, liberal governors/mayors, Carter Page, other nonsense), those of us with our heads not in the clouds are actively looking for a difference. It isn't left, it isn't right. Those are two wings on the same bird. But if we're going to whistle about virtue signaling and these other foolhardy notions, let's talk about a party of complicit enablers, cowards and cronies. People's lives are being destroyed and the power to stop it lies with the Mayors and Governors initially & primarily. Their failure to act is what brought us here. These Governors like Cuomo said "I say thank you but no thank you," on Trump's call to offer military assistance to New York. He would rather let people's lives be ruined than expose himself to the ire and ridicule of the Democrat elitists and the MSM. A party of complicit enablers, cowards and cronies indeed.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 2, 2020 13:34:43 GMT -8
Can you calculate the extent of the failure by the Mayors and Governors who refused to protect their constituents in this nationwide crime spree? Liberal Governors were happily virtue signaling on their refusal to cooperate with Trump and not call out the National Guard to help stop the looting while people were killed, maimed & injured, lost business ownership, lost jobs, lost investments, lost community, lost conveniences, lost everything in many cases. Of course, for some, the Mayors and Governors will never be at fault because they are Democrats and it will mostly be Trump's fault because, while having nothing to do with the original crime in Minneapolis, one night he stayed indoors and allowed the White House to be darkened when a mixed crowd of protestors and anarchists were outside and on another day he went outside to visit a desecrated historical Church in Washington DC amidst a mixed crowd of protestors and anarchists. How dare he! Doesn't he know that appearances are more important than personal safety and the protection of property? The President simply can't win in any situation. It's ridiculous. Sure he can. He can do the country a favor and resign. Literally the least approved president in history. 54% disapproval rating.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 2, 2020 13:37:57 GMT -8
While some over here regurgitate the same points and trigger words (virtue signaling, leftists, liberal governors/mayors, Carter Page, other nonsense), those of us with our heads not in the clouds are actively looking for a difference. It isn't left, it isn't right. Those are two wings on the same bird. But if we're going to whistle about virtue signaling and these other foolhardy notions, let's talk about a party of complicit enablers, cowards and cronies. People's lives are being destroyed and the power to stop it lies with the Mayors and Governors initially & primarily. Their failure to act is what brought us here. These Governors like Cuomo said "I say thank you but no thank you," on Trump's call to offer military assistance to New York. He would rather let people's lives be ruined than expose himself to the ire and ridicule of the Democrat elitists and the MSM. A party of complicit enablers, cowards and cronies indeed. I know this doesn't fit your agenda, since you conveniently ignored a mountain of evidence again, but this is no more the fault of the "libs" than it is the other side. You know whose life was really destroyed? George Floyd's.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jun 2, 2020 13:43:28 GMT -8
People's lives are being destroyed and the power to stop it lies with the Mayors and Governors initially & primarily. Their failure to act is what brought us here. These Governors like Cuomo said "I say thank you but no thank you," on Trump's call to offer military assistance to New York. He would rather let people's lives be ruined than expose himself to the ire and ridicule of the Democrat elitists and the MSM. A party of complicit enablers, cowards and cronies indeed. I know this doesn't fit your agenda, since you conveniently ignored a mountain of evidence again, but this is no more the fault of the "libs" than it is the other side. You know whose life was really destroyed? George Floyd's. Justice will come to his assailant. But what can be done for those other few who were killed, many who were maimed, thousands whose lives were destroyed by masked anarchists? Perhaps they will get an invite to go the cocktail parties in elitist society that Cuomo will get to go after this is all over?
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