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Post by fisherville on Mar 23, 2020 8:21:48 GMT -8
We need front court help. My question is after Nathan missed 2/3 of the season with a respiratory issue (pulmonary embolism) how does he stack up compared to the Grand Transfers we are recruiting? Markusson and Marfo? or do we recruit Morgan and let him sit a year? What question? He’s better than all of them by a significant margin
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Post by hoobs on Mar 23, 2020 9:22:02 GMT -8
We need front court help. My question is after Nathan missed 2/3 of the season with a respiratory issue (pulmonary embolism) how does he stack up compared to the Grand Transfers we are recruiting? Markusson and Marfo? or do we recruit Morgan and let him sit a year? What question? He’s better than all of them by a significant margin " He’s better than all of them by a significant margin" if he comes back at 100% strength... which certainly is hoped but can't be taken for granted.
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Post by azteccc on Mar 23, 2020 11:46:58 GMT -8
Just something worth considering here: While he was healthy, Nathan only played more than 20 minutes 6 times in 13 games.
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Post by aztecfred on Mar 23, 2020 14:54:25 GMT -8
Just something worth considering here: While he was healthy, Nathan only played more than 20 minutes 6 times in 13 games. May have been sick longer than apparent?
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Post by sdcoug on Mar 23, 2020 15:32:37 GMT -8
Just something worth considering here: While he was healthy, Nathan only played more than 20 minutes 6 times in 13 games. Those were blowouts and/or foul trouble related, not his health. Creighton was more about match-ups, given they didn't really play with a big much. Plus, earlier in the year Dutch was making minutes for Joel & Keshad to help get them time on the floor, just in case. Especially with Nolan out injured. I think the Iowa game is the only true match-up we needed him for 20+ minutes where he didn't play that much, but he also picked up a flagrant & I believe got hurt for a bit as well?? Can't recall (although rewatching it this week). I doubt Nate will ever be a 30 minute a game player like Yanni though. Not unless he learns to stay out of foul trouble. He's been pretty fragile - fingers, wrists, and now this. I doubt Dutch will push him too much on a regular basis.
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Post by hoobs on Mar 23, 2020 17:26:57 GMT -8
Just something worth considering here: While he was healthy, Nathan only played more than 20 minutes 6 times in 13 games. Those were blowouts and/or foul trouble related, not his health. Creighton was more about match-ups, given they didn't really play with a big much. Plus, earlier in the year Dutch was making minutes for Joel & Keshad to help get them time on the floor, just in case. Especially with Nolan out injured. I think the Iowa game is the only true match-up we needed him for 20+ minutes where he didn't play that much, but he also picked up a flagrant & I believe got hurt for a bit as well?? Can't recall (although rewatching it this week). I doubt Nate will ever be a 30 minute a game player like Yanni though. Not unless he learns to stay out of foul trouble. He's been pretty fragile - fingers, wrists, and now this. I doubt Dutch will push him too much on a regular basis. Yeah, I've been thinking that the transfer we bring in to "replace" Yanni will need to be more of a 5 than a 4 for this reason. I'm hoping Arop stays healthy and if so, I think he'd be great as a starting 4 (I'm putting Mitchell at the 3 in the starting lineup). The to-be-determined grad (or otherwise immediately-eligible) transfer will split time at the 5 with Nate and play 10 mins/game at the 4. Joel Mensah then gets spot minutes at 4/5 and is insurance in case of injury to Nate or ________. I'd like to have a bit more depth in the post, but we're (again) going to be a very wing-heavy squad.
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Post by fisherville on Mar 23, 2020 18:00:34 GMT -8
Completely disagree, they need a starting 4 that can also backup the 5 in spot moments. Arop is ideally coming off the bench. Need for a starter is much larger
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Post by sdcoug on Mar 24, 2020 14:19:57 GMT -8
Those were blowouts and/or foul trouble related, not his health. Creighton was more about match-ups, given they didn't really play with a big much. Plus, earlier in the year Dutch was making minutes for Joel & Keshad to help get them time on the floor, just in case. Especially with Nolan out injured. I think the Iowa game is the only true match-up we needed him for 20+ minutes where he didn't play that much, but he also picked up a flagrant & I believe got hurt for a bit as well?? Can't recall (although rewatching it this week). I doubt Nate will ever be a 30 minute a game player like Yanni though. Not unless he learns to stay out of foul trouble. He's been pretty fragile - fingers, wrists, and now this. I doubt Dutch will push him too much on a regular basis. Yeah, I've been thinking that the transfer we bring in to "replace" Yanni will need to be more of a 5 than a 4 for this reason. I'm hoping Arop stays healthy and if so, I think he'd be great as a starting 4 (I'm putting Mitchell at the 3 in the starting lineup). The to-be-determined grad (or otherwise immediately-eligible) transfer will split time at the 5 with Nate and play 10 mins/game at the 4. Joel Mensah then gets spot minutes at 4/5 and is insurance in case of injury to Nate or ________. I'd like to have a bit more depth in the post, but we're (again) going to be a very wing-heavy squad. Depends if you're talking transfer or grad transfer IMO? I could see wanting a 4 in a grad transfer, and then maybe a 5 among the true transfers. Someone who can slot behind Nate over time. But Nate's health worries me more, so IMO the "5" is the bigger priority. Yanni was a 5, ultimately, even though he was brought in as a 4 (& 5 back-up). Matt would like to play more outside, but as we saw we were a very good team offensively with him at the 4 & I doubt either he or Schakel sit. So agree with you. Plus, I think Keshad is very, very much in their plans as well, so between Matt, AG & Keshad the team is in good shape at the 4. Can never have enough but... At the 5, Joel isn't going to cut it by any means, and I think both AG & Keshad are better cut out for the 4 than the 5 (although offensively AG is more a 5). Luckily they are talented enough to be flexible & play either spot, albeit I doubt that's the preference. As Dutch typically says, get the best player....period.
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Post by mc08066 on Mar 24, 2020 15:15:59 GMT -8
More from Jeff Goodman. Listed in his best 20 transfers:
18) Mattias Markusson, 7-3, 261, C, RS Jr., Loyola Marymount
Stats: 10.2 ppg, 6.3 rpg (2018-19)
Scout’s take: “High-character young man. Legit 7-3. Good hands and a double-double guy. Works hard and driven to be good. Tremendous shooting touch.”
Schools: Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Southern Miss, Minnesota, San Diego State, Arizona State, Washington State, Arkansas
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Post by Gundo on Apr 5, 2020 20:14:33 GMT -8
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Post by standiego on Apr 5, 2020 21:23:05 GMT -8
prefer Mattias over the recruit from Utah - also Morgan but so do other schools
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Post by fisherville on Apr 5, 2020 21:27:20 GMT -8
I'd rather have morgan than mattias, even with him having to sit out a year
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Post by Gundo on Apr 5, 2020 22:45:08 GMT -8
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Post by dunksalot on Apr 6, 2020 11:30:47 GMT -8
Good find on the link - thanks! I prefer a big especially if there is even the slightest concern with Nathan's health - which means a big who can play immediately (Markusson). I also think Pulliam will step up with some better 3PT shooting next season.
I was wondering why you didn't have Terrell Brown on your list and Zeigler did not mention him in today's article...then saw he signed with Arizona.
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 6, 2020 14:13:33 GMT -8
I'd rather have morgan than mattias, even with him having to sit out a year At first I preferred Mattias because he doesn't have to sit, but in my opinion there is no way that you can pass on Morgan.
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Post by ignoranus on Apr 6, 2020 14:19:18 GMT -8
The Aztecs desperately need one BIG that can play in the upcoming season: Haarms or Markusson seem to fit the team best, unless Morgan gets a waiver...
IF Morgan gets a waiver there will be a bunch of P5 schools chasing him. And some will have deeper/thicker checkbooks.
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 6, 2020 14:32:14 GMT -8
The Aztecs desperately need one BIG that can play in the upcoming season: Haarms or Markusson seem to fit the team best, unless Morgan gets a waiver... IF Morgan gets a waiver there will be a bunch of P5 schools chasing him. And some will have deeper/thicker checkbooks. It doesn't matter if he has to sit. He is a defensive conference player of the year and he has 3 years of remaining eligibility. You are getting an extremely hard to find commodity for 3 years, a player that is of the same caliber of nathan mensah. You get Morgan regardless of eligibility, even if that means you have to pass up on a grad transfer big or a grad transfer guard This player is the equivalent of a Nathan Mensah... Nathan Mensah was just as good of a player for our team as Flynn was, in terms of win shares. And we have the ability to get that type of player for 3 years, as a known commodity- not a 4 star recruit out of high school who may or may not pan out. I would take Morgan + grad transfer big, or Morgan + grad transfer guard even. Also consider that J Mensah could transfer too if we get a grad transfer big + Morgan
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Post by xohsxc on Apr 6, 2020 15:20:59 GMT -8
Right On! Get Morgan
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Post by dunksalot on Apr 6, 2020 17:23:17 GMT -8
The Aztecs desperately need one BIG that can play in the upcoming season: Haarms or Markusson seem to fit the team best, unless Morgan gets a waiver... IF Morgan gets a waiver there will be a bunch of P5 schools chasing him. And some will have deeper/thicker checkbooks. It doesn't matter if he has to sit. He is a defensive conference player of the year and he has 3 years of remaining eligibility. You are getting an extremely hard to find commodity for 3 years, a player that is of the same caliber of nathan mensah. You get Morgan regardless of eligibility, even if that means you have to pass up on a grad transfer big or a grad transfer guard This player is the equivalent of a Nathan Mensah... Nathan Mensah was just as good of a player for our team as Flynn was, in terms of win shares. And we have the ability to get that type of player for 3 years, as a known commodity- not a 4 star recruit out of high school who may or may not pan out. I would take Morgan + grad transfer big, or Morgan + grad transfer guard even. Also consider that J Mensah could transfer too if we get a grad transfer big + Morgan
Joel made a big improvement from Fresh to Soph but I don't know how much better he can get. I show up way too early for a lot of games and the players sure seem to laugh and joke with Joel a lot. After a season like we had that's gotta be tough for him to think about transferring.
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Post by aztecfred on Apr 6, 2020 17:55:41 GMT -8
The Aztecs desperately need one BIG that can play in the upcoming season: Haarms or Markusson seem to fit the team best, unless Morgan gets a waiver... IF Morgan gets a waiver there will be a bunch of P5 schools chasing him. And some will have deeper/thicker checkbooks. It doesn't matter if he has to sit. He is a defensive conference player of the year and he has 3 years of remaining eligibility. You are getting an extremely hard to find commodity for 3 years, a player that is of the same caliber of nathan mensah. You get Morgan regardless of eligibility, even if that means you have to pass up on a grad transfer big or a grad transfer guard This player is the equivalent of a Nathan Mensah... Nathan Mensah was just as good of a player for our team as Flynn was, in terms of win shares. And we have the ability to get that type of player for 3 years, as a known commodity- not a 4 star recruit out of high school who may or may not pan out. I would take Morgan + grad transfer big, or Morgan + grad transfer guard even. Also consider that J Mensah could transfer too if we get a grad transfer big + Morgan I think if u get this kid for 3 years, it's worth goin with what u got this season(if there is one).
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