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Post by survalli on Mar 5, 2020 14:46:57 GMT -8
I'm willing to bet that the media is going to start lumping regular flu deaths into the new coronavirus death toll. Any takers? No one including the CDC or W.H.O. which is just a giant organization should be releasing any type of mortality rates. Because they don't know!! Remember, the bird flu was supposed to kill 50 million. This is absolutely political and some of worst fear mongering I have ever seen. As I posted in political forum where this thread belongs, the director for the CDC told the American people that the coronavirus COULD remain in the United States this year and beyond. But he also stated that the risks are extremely low. Completely different than what the media is telling people. the risks appear to be low if you are under the age of 50 and in good health. For those people, particularly the Elderly, its a near death sentence. should we not quarantine identified carriers? should endanger the lives of our parents and grandparents? these are ethical questions that our government will need to address. there is no politically palatable way to brush that off. Look, governments across the globe are hiding true numbers of infected, or simply throwing their hands up in the air and saying let nature take its course. Will we be one of those nations?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 15:06:39 GMT -8
I'm willing to bet that the media is going to start lumping regular flu deaths into the new coronavirus death toll. Any takers? No one including the CDC or W.H.O. which is just a giant organization should be releasing any type of mortality rates. Because they don't know!! Remember, the bird flu was supposed to kill 50 million. This is absolutely political and some of worst fear mongering I have ever seen. As I posted in political forum where this thread belongs, the director for the CDC told the American people that the coronavirus COULD remain in the United States this year and beyond. But he also stated that the risks are extremely low. Completely different than what the media is telling people. the risks appear to be low if you are under the age of 50 and in good health. For those people, particularly the Elderly, its a near death sentence. should we not quarantine identified carriers? should endanger the lives of our parents and grandparents? these are ethical questions that our government will need to address. there is no politically palatable way to brush that off. Look, governments across the globe are hiding true numbers of infected, or simply throwing their hands up in the air and saying let nature take its course. Will we be one of those nations? I'm in somewhat agreement with you here. But the political BS that's being played and the ignorance and fear mongering coming from the media is causing economic chaos globally before anyone can determine anything. The regular flu attacks the elderly and children as well. Yet the media is not talking about that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 16:54:43 GMT -8
WHO has already come out and said the mortality rate is worse than influenza. what more do you want. if 40 million get Coronavirus, how many deaths do you think that will equate to? do the math There is no point in arguing. Trump doesn’t believe the WHO numbers cause he had a “hunch”. Science just doesn’t get through to these types of people. The fact that this is 20-30 times more lethal than the seasonal flu is apparently media hysteria even though the numbers from China (and the world’s leading doctors) back it up. They’d rather believe a guy who lies on a daily basis, has zero science or medical background, and by his own admission has no idea how many people died from the flu each year. Thank you. The president is an absolute imbecile. This will be handled despite him, not because of his leadership. Btw, I am a lifelong Republican.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 17:29:58 GMT -8
There is no point in arguing. Trump doesn’t believe the WHO numbers cause he had a “hunch”. Science just doesn’t get through to these types of people. The fact that this is 20-30 times more lethal than the seasonal flu is apparently media hysteria even though the numbers from China (and the world’s leading doctors) back it up. They’d rather believe a guy who lies on a daily basis, has zero science or medical background, and by his own admission has no idea how many people died from the flu each year. Thank you. The president is an absolute imbecile. This will be handled despite him, not because of his leadership. Btw, I am a lifelong Republican.
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Post by Aztec Empire on Mar 5, 2020 17:54:49 GMT -8
Thank you. The president is an absolute imbecile. This will be handled despite him, not because of his leadership. Btw, I am a lifelong Republican. McCain and Romney are life long Republicans... Not sure why this is relevant since there are many camps associated with the party. Comey was a “republican” for gods sake. We should take this part of the conversation to the politics sub, because I think coronavirus IS relevant to the Aztecs and I would prefer that the mods don’t shut down the thread.
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Mar 5, 2020 17:55:45 GMT -8
Thank you. The president is an absolute imbecile. This will be handled despite him, not because of his leadership. Btw, I am a lifelong Republican. Just out of curiosity, have you read any of the reports that have been published out by the WHO or the CDC regarding Covid-19?
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Post by legkick on Mar 5, 2020 17:56:00 GMT -8
The mods should have moved or shut down this thread as soon as it went political.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 18:05:03 GMT -8
Just out of curiosity, have you read any of the reports that have been published out by the WHO or the CDC regarding Covid-19? Actually, yes. I also heard the director of the CDC the other day tell the American people that this coronavirus COULD be around a while but Americans as a whole are at low risk. The masses must have skipped that part.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 18:06:59 GMT -8
The mods should have moved or shut down this thread as soon as it went political. If you haven't been paying attention, It's been political!!
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Post by AzTex on Mar 5, 2020 18:23:51 GMT -8
The mods should have moved or shut down this thread as soon as it went political. That was at least 7 1/2 pages ago. I agree with you. Long overdue to be locked or moved to the political forum.
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Post by AztecPhil on Mar 5, 2020 19:13:05 GMT -8
Concerning the fatality rate for the corona virus (Covid-19), based upon Chinese reports the fatality rate is around 2%. Senator Tom Cotton says the Chinese are lying, though. The WHO data base listed just under 100,000 reported cases with around 3,300 fatalities. Laaztec brings up a good point, though, are the reported nearly 100,000 cases hospitalized cases or tested positive cases?
As to the victim profiles, at least one of the American fatalities was reported as a previously healthy 43 year old woman. I am sure somebody will have good stats on who will likely die from this virus after it runs its course. Let's just hope it does not kill any of our family members.
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Post by AztecPhil on Mar 5, 2020 19:21:05 GMT -8
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Post by azman on Mar 5, 2020 20:05:53 GMT -8
Concerning the fatality rate for the corona virus (Covid-19), based upon Chinese reports the fatality rate is around 2%. Senator Tom Cotton says the Chinese are lying, though. The WHO data base listed just under 100,000 reported cases with around 3,300 fatalities. Laaztec brings up a good point, though, are the reported nearly 100,000 cases hospitalized cases or tested positive cases? As to the victim profiles, at least one of the American fatalities was reported as a previously healthy 43 year old woman. I am sure somebody will have good stats on who will likely die from this virus after it runs its course. Let's just hope it does not kill any of our family members. The current mortality rate rivals flu (very low) until you get above 50 years old, then it jumps up at a pretty good rate every 10 year age group. Very dangerous if you are over 70 years old
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Mar 5, 2020 20:06:46 GMT -8
Just out of curiosity, have you read any of the reports that have been published out by the WHO or the CDC regarding Covid-19? Actually, yes. I also heard the director of the CDC the other day tell the American people that this coronavirus COULD be around a while but Americans as a whole are at low risk. The masses must have skipped that part. I think a lot of risk can be mitigated if everyone takes it seriously enough to take additional precautions such as wiping down shopping carts, door handles, and point-of-sale screens before handling them, have hand wipes or sanitizer on hand to use after handling such things, card reader POS terminals, etc., and anally followed the CDC's advice of washing hands. In a meeting yesterday I passed on shaking hands to bump 'bows instead. And neither my wife nor I have exchanged a hug with a friend for more than a week. A good friend who recently returned from Europe is verboten from coming over until he's been back for two weeks. Little preventative measures will go a long way towards muting transmission - a stitch in time and all that.
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Post by junior on Mar 5, 2020 20:20:32 GMT -8
Concerning the fatality rate for the corona virus (Covid-19), based upon Chinese reports the fatality rate is around 2%. Senator Tom Cotton says the Chinese are lying, though. The WHO data base listed just under 100,000 reported cases with around 3,300 fatalities. Laaztec brings up a good point, though, are the reported nearly 100,000 cases hospitalized cases or tested positive cases? As to the victim profiles, at least one of the American fatalities was reported as a previously healthy 43 year old woman. I am sure somebody will have good stats on who will likely die from this virus after it runs its course. Let's just hope it does not kill any of our family members. The current mortality rate rivals flu (very low) until you get above 50 years old, then it jumps up at a pretty good rate every 10 year age group. Very dangerous if you are over 70 years old At age 70 and beyond, just getting out of bed in the morning can be very dangerous…
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 5, 2020 22:03:43 GMT -8
It is interesting that all the attention my mean the corona virus may actually save lives due to reducing the flu season.
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Post by longtimebooster on Mar 6, 2020 3:39:28 GMT -8
It is interesting that all the attention my mean the corona virus may actually save lives due to reducing the flu season. Or not.
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Post by AztecPhil on Mar 6, 2020 6:14:23 GMT -8
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Post by uwphoto on Mar 6, 2020 6:47:24 GMT -8
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Post by Den60 on Mar 6, 2020 8:00:45 GMT -8
WHO has already come out and said the mortality rate is worse than influenza. what more do you want. if 40 million get Coronavirus, how many deaths do you think that will equate to? do the math There is no point in arguing. Trump doesn’t believe the WHO numbers cause he had a “hunch”. Science just doesn’t get through to these types of people. The fact that this is 20-30 times more lethal than the seasonal flu is apparently media hysteria even though the numbers from China (and the world’s leading doctors) back it up. They’d rather believe a guy who lies on a daily basis, has zero science or medical background, and by his own admission has no idea how many people died from the flu each year. There is no solid numbers as to the mortality of this virus because many people have mild symptoms, never see a doc or get tested so they are not included in the data. It does appear that this virus is very dangerous to people with cardiovascular issues, diabetes, immune system issues or being elderly.
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