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Post by azdick on Feb 17, 2020 11:06:26 GMT -8
Wouldn't it be awesome if our Little Sister somehow beats Gonzaga on 2/27? When monkeys fly out of my butt. Ouch! That sounds like a real organ-grinder! |
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Post by longtimebooster on Feb 17, 2020 11:14:04 GMT -8
When monkeys fly out of my butt. Ouch! That sounds like a real organ-grinder! Well, it can be. |
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Post by jeffreylw on Feb 17, 2020 13:06:07 GMT -8
I am pretty confident I am in a very small minority here, but I have zero interest in reaching a #1 ranking until after the conference championships. We've got a lot of basketball left, and our guys need to stay focused. They've overcome every obstacle put in front of them thus far, but a #1 ranking is just one of those things that makes peak performance just a bit harder to achieve with the additional pressure and potential for distraction. No one's saying it but if we lose 1 and end up #2 in the west, it may be our easiest path. |
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Post by junior on Feb 17, 2020 13:24:11 GMT -8
Who needs an easy path. This team has shown us without a shadow of doubt that it can beat ANYONE, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE.
Bring'em on one and all, then just sit back and watch'em fall…
I'm way past wondering if or when this year's Aztec men's basketball team might lose. It's not gonna happen.
Go Aztecs
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Post by aztecnails on Feb 17, 2020 13:45:44 GMT -8
the most important game is SDSU beating Unlv to stay undefeated and sweep the regular season series and knocking Unlv into a conference tournament play in game. also, Unlv has a tough game against Csu Tuesday.
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Post by azman on Feb 17, 2020 14:01:40 GMT -8
Zags got no favors from the schedule makers. They are playing Thursday night at home, then have to play at BYU on Saturday. This is good for us
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Post by sdcoug on Feb 17, 2020 15:24:47 GMT -8
Best case scenario: 1). Baylor lose @ Oklahoma tomorrow night 2). Baylor beat Kansas saturday night 3). BYU beat Gonzaga 4). SDSU beat UNLV If all 4 of these things happen are Aztecs #1 in country next monday? If so, and we go undefeated we control our destiny as overall #1. If that happens I doubt it would get us the #1 seed overall. Kansas wouldn't drop losing on the road to a top team unless they're blown out. They'd need another loss (or 2) somewhere. Any damage done to Baylor by losing @ Okie would be offset by knocking off Kansas IMO. IMO the best case is for Baylor to lose twice. Wouldn't get us #1 overall, but damn close & definitely above Baylor & Zags. That's all we really need. |
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Post by sdcoug on Feb 17, 2020 15:31:06 GMT -8
the most important game is SDSU beating Unlv to stay undefeated and sweep the regular season series and knocking Unlv into a conference tournament play in game. also, Unlv has a tough game against Csu Tuesday. We want UNLV in that game vs. CSU IMO. We need/want our win in Vegas to stay a Quad 2 victory to help our resume. If not that one, they really need to beat Boise in their final game. |
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Post by NCAztec82 on Feb 17, 2020 15:33:53 GMT -8
Who needs an easy path. This team has shown us without a shadow of doubt that it can beat ANYONE, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE. Bring'em on one and all, then just sit back and watch'em fall… I'm way past wondering if or when this year's Aztec men's basketball team might lose. It's not gonna happen. Go Aztecs
#NoCeiling #AnySeedAnywhere |
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Post by sdsuball on Feb 17, 2020 15:45:42 GMT -8
It's interesting to consider what bracket SDSU would want to play in if they aren't in the West. Travel wise, the Midwest is closer then the East for us. On one hand, the Midwest has a ton of good B10 Conference teams that could find themselves on a 4 or 5 seed in the Midwest region, playing a virtual home game. Being forced to play a Michigan or Michigan State in the Sweet 16, in the Midwest bracket, is tough. On the other hand, Duke is playing incredibly well of late, and so is Maryland. That has the makings of a very difficult elite eight game out of the East bracket. If the Aztecs were to get the West bracket, likely some number of Midwest and East coast would be forced to play on the West Coast - which is an advantageous place to play a 4 seed or a 2 seed since they have to travel - and we wouldn't. So overall, while the Midwest might be preferable to the East, it's unclear how much better that would be for us. If somehow Baylor were to lose (and I think that they would need to lose twice unless they lost to a bad team), and we could leapfrog them, playing in the South bracket sounds much better then playing in the Midwest or East bracket.
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Post by sdcoug on Feb 17, 2020 16:01:01 GMT -8
It's interesting to consider what bracket SDSU would want to play in if they aren't in the West. Travel wise, the Midwest is closer then the East for us. On one hand, the Midwest has a ton of good B10 Conference teams that could find themselves on a 4 or 5 seed in the Midwest region, playing a virtual home game. Being forced to play a Michigan or Michigan State in the Sweet 16, in the Midwest bracket, is tough. On the other hand, Duke is playing incredibly well of late, and so is Maryland. That has the makings of a very difficult elite eight game out of the East bracket. If the Aztecs were to get the West bracket, likely some number of Midwest and East coast would be forced to play on the West Coast - which is an advantageous place to play a 4 seed or a 2 seed since they have to travel - and we wouldn't. So overall, while the Midwest might be preferable to the East, it's unclear how much better that would be for us. If somehow Baylor were to lose (and I think that they would need to lose twice unless they lost to a bad team), and we could leapfrog them, playing in the South bracket sounds much better then playing in the Midwest or East bracket. While the B1G is loaded, I think if the seeding were to happen today only 3 B1X teams would be seeded 1-4. Plus, most good B1X teams are from the east, not midwest. The 3 are Maryland (likely a 2 seed), Penn St (likely 3-seed) & Michigan St (maybe a 4-seed), and in theory both Penn St & Maryland would be positioned in the East (if available). Duke might bump Maryland from the east to MW if both are 2's, but we wouldn't face either until the E8. The only other with an outside shot at top 4 is probably Ohio St & that's a real long shot. Iowa should be 5-6; if Rutgers wins out they could be a 5-6, but even if a 4 they would prefer NY as well. With Dayton & Creighton up there those teams would also be positioned to play in the midwest. The B1X is beating each other up so much the odds of more than a couple being regionalized is relatively low. Probably a non-factor. While I'd love to go back to MSG, Indy's a great place for hoops if we don't get a 1-seed in the west & likely no Duke. Houston would probably be the cheapest travel though, outside LA. |
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Feb 17, 2020 16:04:10 GMT -8
Assuming the top four teams remain the top four teams in the NET, the 4th 1-seed will ship to NYC. Regional proximity is not a boolean operator; it is relative.
Thus it is absolutely in the Aztecs best interest to rank as any of the top-three 1-seeds, as it will in all likeliness result in supplanting one of the three other regional 1-seeds, whether it be in LA, Houston, or Indy. The less west-to-east travel, the better, especially considering MSG would essentially be a home game for Dook should both the 1- and 2-seeds (in the East) make it that far.
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Post by sdsuball on Feb 17, 2020 16:21:16 GMT -8
It's interesting to consider what bracket SDSU would want to play in if they aren't in the West. Travel wise, the Midwest is closer then the East for us. On one hand, the Midwest has a ton of good B10 Conference teams that could find themselves on a 4 or 5 seed in the Midwest region, playing a virtual home game. Being forced to play a Michigan or Michigan State in the Sweet 16, in the Midwest bracket, is tough. On the other hand, Duke is playing incredibly well of late, and so is Maryland. That has the makings of a very difficult elite eight game out of the East bracket. If the Aztecs were to get the West bracket, likely some number of Midwest and East coast would be forced to play on the West Coast - which is an advantageous place to play a 4 seed or a 2 seed since they have to travel - and we wouldn't. So overall, while the Midwest might be preferable to the East, it's unclear how much better that would be for us. If somehow Baylor were to lose (and I think that they would need to lose twice unless they lost to a bad team), and we could leapfrog them, playing in the South bracket sounds much better then playing in the Midwest or East bracket. While the B1G is loaded, I think if the seeding were to happen today only 3 B1X teams would be seeded 1-4. Plus, most good B1X teams are from the east, not midwest. The 3 are Maryland (likely a 2 seed), Penn St (likely 3-seed) & Michigan St (maybe a 4-seed), and in theory both Penn St & Maryland would be positioned in the East (if available). Duke might bump Maryland from the east to MW if both are 2's, but we wouldn't face either until the E8. The only other with an outside shot at top 4 is probably Ohio St & that's a real long shot. Iowa should be 5-6; if Rutgers wins out they could be a 5-6, but even if a 4 they would prefer NY as well. With Dayton & Creighton up there those teams would also be positioned to play in the midwest. The B1X is beating each other up so much the odds of more than a couple being regionalized is relatively low. Probably a non-factor. While I'd love to go back to MSG, Indy's a great place for hoops if we don't get a 1-seed in the west & likely no Duke. Houston would probably be the cheapest travel though, outside LA. Well, that's more reason to want to be in the Midwest over the East. If we are the #1 in the East, we might be looking at #2 Duke or Maryland, #3 Penn State/Villanova, #4 Villanova/Creighton/Seton Hall. That's a loaded #1-4 in the East bracket, with probably the toughest #2 of the four regions in Duke or Maryland (whichever one is better will get the East bracket). On the other hand, if we got the South bracket (with 2 Baylor losses), it could be: #1 SDSU, #2 Florida State (not a home game proximity wise), #3 Kentucky (not a home game proximity wise), #4 Auburn (not a home game proximity wise). Flying to Houston from San Diego is reasonable as well. That would be much better then being in the Midwest or East IMO, so long as Baylor didn't drop so far to where they became a #2 seed. That's a bit of a long shot at this point, but it is still possible. |
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Post by sdcoug on Feb 17, 2020 16:27:31 GMT -8
While the B1G is loaded, I think if the seeding were to happen today only 3 B1X teams would be seeded 1-4. Plus, most good B1X teams are from the east, not midwest. The 3 are Maryland (likely a 2 seed), Penn St (likely 3-seed) & Michigan St (maybe a 4-seed), and in theory both Penn St & Maryland would be positioned in the East (if available). Duke might bump Maryland from the east to MW if both are 2's, but we wouldn't face either until the E8. The only other with an outside shot at top 4 is probably Ohio St & that's a real long shot. Iowa should be 5-6; if Rutgers wins out they could be a 5-6, but even if a 4 they would prefer NY as well. With Dayton & Creighton up there those teams would also be positioned to play in the midwest. The B1X is beating each other up so much the odds of more than a couple being regionalized is relatively low. Probably a non-factor. While I'd love to go back to MSG, Indy's a great place for hoops if we don't get a 1-seed in the west & likely no Duke. Houston would probably be the cheapest travel though, outside LA. Well, that's more reason to want to be in the Midwest over the East. If we are the #1 in the East, we might be looking at #2 Duke or Maryland, #3 Penn State/Villanova, #4 Villanova/Creighton/Seton Hall. That's a loaded #1-4 in the East bracket, with probably the toughest #2 of the four regions in Duke or Maryland (whichever one is better will get the East bracket). On the other hand, if we got the South bracket (with 2 Baylor losses), it could be: #1 SDSU, #2 Florida State (not a home game proximity wise), #3 Kentucky (not a home game proximity wise), #4 Auburn (not a home game proximity wise). Flying to Houston from San Diego is reasonable as well. That would be much better then being in the Midwest or East IMO, so long as Baylor didn't drop so far to where they became a #2 seed. That's a bit of a long shot at this point, but it is still possible. You never know how teams will fall out. Right now I think Duke & Maryland are both 2 seeds, so no way both are in the east. I also don't think Kentucky has a shot at a 3-seed. I think its just as likely the South region is Baylor, Louisville, Seton Hall & Arizona. I have Colorado higher than Arizona, both on the 4 line so one would get shipped. And both are clearly above Auburn right now. Who gets sent where is really a crap shoot. The ONLY one you can control is being the BEST team in your own region. The #1 goal is to win out & be a 1, wherever that sends us because the odds are at 32-0 we won't be the 4th #1 seed. |
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Post by sdsuball on Feb 17, 2020 16:42:29 GMT -8
Well, that's more reason to want to be in the Midwest over the East. If we are the #1 in the East, we might be looking at #2 Duke or Maryland, #3 Penn State/Villanova, #4 Villanova/Creighton/Seton Hall. That's a loaded #1-4 in the East bracket, with probably the toughest #2 of the four regions in Duke or Maryland (whichever one is better will get the East bracket). On the other hand, if we got the South bracket (with 2 Baylor losses), it could be: #1 SDSU, #2 Florida State (not a home game proximity wise), #3 Kentucky (not a home game proximity wise), #4 Auburn (not a home game proximity wise). Flying to Houston from San Diego is reasonable as well. That would be much better then being in the Midwest or East IMO, so long as Baylor didn't drop so far to where they became a #2 seed. That's a bit of a long shot at this point, but it is still possible. You never know how teams will fall out. Right now I think Duke & Maryland are both 2 seeds, so no way both are in the east. I also don't think Kentucky has a shot at a 3-seed. I think its just as likely the South region is Baylor, Louisville, Seton Hall & Arizona. I have Colorado higher than Arizona, both on the 4 line so one would get shipped. And both are clearly above Auburn right now. Who gets sent where is really a crap shoot. The ONLY one you can control is being the BEST team in your own region. The #1 goal is to win out & be a 1, wherever that sends us because the odds are at 32-0 we won't be the 4th #1 seed. Yeah agreed, Duke and Maryland will both be #2's - meaning that no matter what, if you are in the East you will have to play one of them on the #2 line - making for a difficult Elite 8 game. That being said, let's assume for a minute that Kansas and Baylor don't drop any more games in the regular season or conference tournament (except when they play each other), and Gonzaga and SDSU win out. Where does SDSU fall? Scenario 1: Baylor wins both games against Kansas. SDSU is the #3 overall seed, so they are placed in the Midwest. Does Kansas get the 4'th #1 seed, or are they the #2 seed in the Midwest? (making for a difficult Elite Eight game) Scenario 2: Kansas wins both games against Baylor. SDSU (I would hope) would be the #3 overall seed, so they are placed in the South. Does Baylor get the 4'th #1 seed, or are they the #2 seed in the South? (again, making for a difficult Elite Eight game) Scenario 3: Baylor and Kansas split their remaining two games. What is the order of the top 4 overall seeds (and they stay the same four teams overall... right??) The point that I am making is, how do we even know who to cheer for in the Baylor vs. Kansas game on Saturday? |
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Post by Den60 on Feb 18, 2020 8:43:42 GMT -8
Zags got no favors from the schedule makers. They are playing Thursday night at home, then have to play at BYU on Saturday. This is good for us That appears to be normal scheduling in the WCC - Thursday and Saturday. |
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Post by waxxon on Feb 18, 2020 9:12:01 GMT -8
If the fixers on the selection committee keep protecting the zags and rank them ahead of the Aztecs, we'll just have to go to MSG and beat Puke as payback
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Post by tonatiuh on Feb 18, 2020 12:49:12 GMT -8
Wouldn't it be awesome if our Little Sister somehow beats Gonzaga on 2/27? OUR Little Sister? Are you out of your mind?  ??  |
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Post by missiontrails on Feb 18, 2020 13:58:08 GMT -8
Wouldn't it be awesome if our Little Sister somehow beats Gonzaga on 2/27? OUR Little Sister? Are you out of your mind? ?? Obviously  |
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Post by azman on Feb 18, 2020 18:17:36 GMT -8
Zags got no favors from the schedule makers. They are playing Thursday night at home, then have to play at BYU on Saturday. This is good for us That appears to be normal scheduling in the WCC - Thursday and Saturday. That is some bizarre scheduling. BYU is also playing on Thursday, BUT at home! Advantage, Cougars |
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