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Post by mayham81 on Feb 17, 2020 8:04:22 GMT -8
Saturday 2/22 could be a big day seeding and ranking wise. Baylor and Kansas play each other and Gonzaga is at BYU.
If we can take care of business at home we could move up in the rankings, which is nice but doesn’t mean much, and more importantly in seeding. Are we capable of becoming the biggest fans of BYU just for a day?
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Post by Sdsu4life on Feb 17, 2020 8:15:35 GMT -8
Saturday 2/22 could be a big day seeding and tanking wise. Baylor and Kansas play each other and Gonzaga is at BYU. If we can take care of business at home we could move up in the rankings, which is nice but doesn’t mean much, and more importantly in seeding. Are we capable of becoming the biggest fans of BYU just for a day? What Baylor/Kansas do the rest of the way doesn't really matter too much except for poll rankings. It is Gonzaga that we need to lose in order to secure the #1 seed in the west. That is between us and Gonzaga. Baylor/Kansas/Duke/Dayton are not playing for that spot. But yes, it is going to be nice for one of Baylor/Kansas to lose just for rankings and the exposure we get from it |
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Post by Aztec Empire on Feb 17, 2020 8:16:13 GMT -8
Yes, my desire to play at staples as a 1 seed is much stronger than my need for BYU to lose one game that won’t matter in their season overall.
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Post by mayham81 on Feb 17, 2020 8:23:23 GMT -8
Saturday 2/22 could be a big day seeding and tanking wise. Baylor and Kansas play each other and Gonzaga is at BYU. If we can take care of business at home we could move up in the rankings, which is nice but doesn’t mean much, and more importantly in seeding. Are we capable of becoming the biggest fans of BYU just for a day? What Baylor/Kansas do the rest of the way doesn't really matter too much except for poll rankings. It is Gonzaga that we need to lose in order to secure the #1 seed in the west. That is between us and Gonzaga. Baylor/Kansas/Duke/Dayton are not playing for that spot. But yes, it is going to be nice for one of Baylor/Kansas to lose just for rankings and the exposure we get from it Baylor and Kansas losing some games down the stretch could help SDSU become the highest ranked 1 seed in the tournament which I think is a thing right? |
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Post by Aztecs Fan on Feb 17, 2020 8:30:44 GMT -8
Currently SDSU is the fourth #1 seed, hence Gonzaga becomes the #1 seed in the West. So not sure exactly how it works but if Kansas loses to Baylor and maybe loses another game while the Aztecs win out, then SDSU might become the third #1 seed and Kansas ends up the fourth #1 seed. If that happens and SDSU is seeded higher than Kansas, could SDSU become the #1 seed in the Midwest and Kansas gets shipped to the East as that region's #1 seed?
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Post by Sdsu4life on Feb 17, 2020 8:31:35 GMT -8
What Baylor/Kansas do the rest of the way doesn't really matter too much except for poll rankings. It is Gonzaga that we need to lose in order to secure the #1 seed in the west. That is between us and Gonzaga. Baylor/Kansas/Duke/Dayton are not playing for that spot. But yes, it is going to be nice for one of Baylor/Kansas to lose just for rankings and the exposure we get from it Baylor and Kansas losing some games down the stretch could help SDSU become the highest ranked 1 seed in the tournament which I think is a thing right? True, that is a possibility. Long shot, but still in play for it. |
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Post by Sdsu4life on Feb 17, 2020 8:32:22 GMT -8
Currently SDSU is the fourth #1 seed, hence Gonzaga becomes the #1 seed in the West. So not sure exactly how it works but if Kansas loses to Baylor and maybe loses another game while the Aztecs win out, then SDSU might become the third #1 seed and Kansas ends up the fourth #1 seed. If that happens and SDSU is seeded higher than Kansas, could SDSU become the #1 seed in the Midwest and Kansas gets shipped to the East as that region's #1 seed? That is a possibility as well. |
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Post by longtimebooster on Feb 17, 2020 8:33:23 GMT -8
Saturday 2/22 could be a big day seeding and tanking wise. Baylor and Kansas play each other and Gonzaga is at BYU. If we can take care of business at home we could move up in the rankings, which is nice but doesn’t mean much, and more importantly in seeding. Are we capable of becoming the biggest fans of BYU just for a day? What Baylor/Kansas do the rest of the way doesn't really matter too much except for poll rankings. It is Gonzaga that we need to lose in order to secure the #1 seed in the west. That is between us and Gonzaga. Baylor/Kansas/Duke/Dayton are not playing for that spot. But yes, it is going to be nice for one of Baylor/Kansas to lose just for rankings and the exposure we get from it I disagree with the part about seeding. I've been thinking about this, and while this thought process is rational -- that it doesn't matter what Kansas and Baylor do -- I think there's definitely a minor flaw in that rationale. Let's say both Kansas and Baylor lose another game. And let's say, both SDSU and the Zags keep winning. Right now, the decision is to send one of the West teams to NYC -- a long, unfavorable haul three time zones away and in the wrong direction (west to east), too boot. But if the Zags and SDSU were the clear Nos. 1 and 2, then it would be much easier to send either Baylor or Kansas to the east and, thus, make it more palatable to send the Zags to either Houston or Indianapolis, leaving an undefeated SDSU in their natural geography. And if this is about selling tickets, SDSU in the Staples Center for the S16 or E8 would practically sell out. The Zags, not so much. Los Angeles is 1,200 mi. from Spokane. (Indy and Houston are 1,900 mi. from Spokane.) Finally, if the Zags and SDSU finish essentially 1a and 1b, and Kansas/Baylor both lose games, it would be easier to just send SDSU to Houston, Baylor to Indy and Kansas to NYC (where they likely have a much larger national following anyway.) Something to ponder. |
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Post by Sdsu4life on Feb 17, 2020 8:39:45 GMT -8
What Baylor/Kansas do the rest of the way doesn't really matter too much except for poll rankings. It is Gonzaga that we need to lose in order to secure the #1 seed in the west. That is between us and Gonzaga. Baylor/Kansas/Duke/Dayton are not playing for that spot. But yes, it is going to be nice for one of Baylor/Kansas to lose just for rankings and the exposure we get from it I disagree with the part about seeding. I've been thinking about this, and while this thought process is rational -- that it doesn't matter what Kansas and Baylor do -- I think there's definitely a minor flaw in that rationale. Let's say both Kansas and Baylor lose another game. And let's say, both SDSU and the Zags keep winning. Right now, the decision is to send one of the West teams to NYC -- a long, unfavorable haul three time zones away and in the wrong direction (west to east), too boot. But if the Zags and SDSU were the clear Nos. 1 and 2, then it would be much easier to send either Baylor or Kansas to the east and, thus, make it more palatable to send the Zags to either Houston or Indianapolis, leaving an undefeated SDSU in their natural geography. And if this is about selling tickets, SDSU in the Staples Center for the S16 or E8 would practically sell out. The Zags, not so much. Los Angeles is 1,200 mi. from Spokane. (Indy and Houston are 1,900 mi. from Spokane.) Finally, if the Zags and SDSU finish essentially 1a and 1b, and Kansas/Baylor both lose games, it would be easier to just send SDSU to Houston, Baylor to Indy and Kansas to NYC (where they likely have a much larger national following anyway.) Something to ponder. I agree. Wasn't thinking about all of that. Was just thinking about us having a better resume vs Gonzaga. There's still a few scenarios that can play out for the #1 seeds. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Feb 17, 2020 9:14:58 GMT -8
I don't think Baylor and Kansas matter at all. Either could win out or lose every game and it wouldn't affect the Aztecs either way. The only thing that makes any difference is our head-to-head comparison with Gonzaga. The winner of that head-to-head gets the #1 seed in the region in which the two schools are located (west), and the loser of that head-to-head gets shipped off to whatever region is open. We need another loss on Gonzaga's record.
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Post by 1985aztec on Feb 17, 2020 9:27:45 GMT -8
I think best scenario is have Baylor beat Kansas on 2/22 and we win out.....We should overtake Kansas in the polls. If Baylor loses it will be considered a good loss and I doubt they will drop them more than one spot, thus we stay #4. But if Kansas can drop one spot with a good loss to Baylor we should overtake them....
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Post by aztecking on Feb 17, 2020 9:29:04 GMT -8
I don't think Baylor and Kansas matter at all. Either could win out or lose every game and it wouldn't affect the Aztecs either way. The only thing that makes any difference is our head-to-head comparison with Gonzaga. The winner of that head-to-head gets the #1 seed in the region in which the two schools are located (west), and the loser of that head-to-head gets shipped off to whatever region is open. We need another loss on Gonzaga's record. That’s just not true. If the committee has us seeded above Baylor or Kansas will would go to the South or Midwest region instead of the East if Gonzaga is slotted in the West. |
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Post by missiontrails on Feb 17, 2020 9:43:00 GMT -8
Wouldn't it be awesome if our Little Sister somehow beats Gonzaga on 2/27?
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Post by Den60 on Feb 17, 2020 9:46:59 GMT -8
We have to root for YBU this Saturday. We have three wins against teams currently in the top 25 (Creighton 15 Neu, Iowa 18 Neu, @ybu 23) while Gonzaga has three (Ore 14 Neu, YBU 23, @zona 24).
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Post by docmm on Feb 17, 2020 9:56:06 GMT -8
We have to root for YBU this Saturday. We have three wins against teams currently in the top 25 (Creighton 15 Neu, Iowa 18 Neu, @ybu 23) while Gonzaga has three (Ore 11 Neu, YBU 23, @zona 24). Gonzaga also beat BYU but in Spokane. |
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Post by Den60 on Feb 17, 2020 10:04:13 GMT -8
We have to root for YBU this Saturday. We have three wins against teams currently in the top 25 (Creighton 15 Neu, Iowa 18 Neu, @ybu 23) while Gonzaga has three (Ore 11 Neu, YBU 23, @zona 24). Gonzaga also beat BYU but in Spokane. Yeah, forgot about that one and added it. Gonzaga beat Arizona @ Arizona as probably their best win. YBU has one quality win @ Hou #22. |
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Post by namssa on Feb 17, 2020 10:18:05 GMT -8
If BYU can beat Gonzaga and Baylor beats Kansas not only would we be in position to get the #1 seed in the west, we also would likely be ranked #2 in both polls.
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Post by longtimebooster on Feb 17, 2020 10:39:38 GMT -8
Wouldn't it be awesome if our Little Sister somehow beats Gonzaga on 2/27? When monkeys fly out of my butt. |
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Post by aztecalum on Feb 17, 2020 10:45:14 GMT -8
Best case scenario:
1). Baylor lose @ Oklahoma tomorrow night
2). Baylor beat Kansas saturday night
3). BYU beat Gonzaga
4). SDSU beat UNLV
If all 4 of these things happen are Aztecs #1 in country next monday? If so, and we go undefeated we control our destiny as overall #1.
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Post by crimtec on Feb 17, 2020 10:58:08 GMT -8
I am pretty confident I am in a very small minority here, but I have zero interest in reaching a #1 ranking until after the conference championships. We've got a lot of basketball left, and our guys need to stay focused. They've overcome every obstacle put in front of them thus far, but a #1 ranking is just one of those things that makes peak performance just a bit harder to achieve with the additional pressure and potential for distraction.
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