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Post by AztecWilliam on Jan 3, 2020 18:16:25 GMT -8
Let's see if we can isolate the essential elements of SDSU football as we enter 2020.
1. The 2010-2019 decade is the only one in school history in which there was not one single losing season.
2. The 2010-2019 decade is the only one in school history in which the Aztecs went to a bowl game all ten years.
3. This past decade is the only one since the 70s in which an Aztec team finished a season in the Top-25.
4. The Aztecs won more conference championships in this past decade than in any season since the 70s.
5. The Aztecs have been blessed with more nationally recognized running backs in this past season than
in any decade in history.
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6. The Aztec offense, generally average in the past decade, has been really bad the past two years.
7. Despite the very positive factors enumerated in points 1-5, the fanbase has not responded with the enthusiasm
one might have anticipated. (example: The very disappointing crowd [20,000] that showed up for the MWC
championship game in 2015.)
8. Long time fans question whether SDSU's administration is seriously committed to making Aztec football a national power.
9. As a follow-up to point 8, we have a coach who is about to turn 70. It will be crucial to replace him with someone capable of
elevating the program. History shows that SDSU's administration does not have an unblemished track record in that regard.
In short, this football program has risen from the ashes of previous decades. It remains to be seen whether this renaissance will continue.
AzWm
PS: It will take more than hiring a new OC to resurrect the Aztec offense.
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Post by zurac315 on Jan 3, 2020 22:08:45 GMT -8
How do we upgrade the program with no money and not all that much fan support? How many decades does it take to convince people that we can't upgrade the program under the circumstances. We are in the same position regarding Fresno State as we were 50 years ago. And I am under the impression that Fresno State can pay a head coach more than we can. And we're supposed to find someone to "take us to the next level?"
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Post by aardvark on Jan 3, 2020 23:25:41 GMT -8
Let's see if we can isolate the essential elements of SDSU football as we enter 2020. 1. The 2010-2019 decade is the only one in school history in which there was not one single losing season. 2. The 2010-2019 decade is the only one in school history in which the Aztecs went to a bowl game all ten years. 3. This past decade is the only one since the 70s in which an Aztec team finished a season in the Top-25. 4. The Aztecs won more conference championships in this past decade than in any season since the 70s. 5. The Aztecs have been blessed with more nationally recognized running backs in this past season than in any decade in history. ===================================================================== 6. The Aztec offense, generally average in the past decade, has been really bad the past two years. 7. Despite the very positive factors enumerated in points 1-5, the fanbase has not responded with the enthusiasm one might have anticipated. (example: The very disappointing crowd [20,000] that showed up for the MWC championship game in 2015.) 8. Long time fans question whether SDSU's administration is seriously committed to making Aztec football a national power. 9. As a follow-up to point 8, we have a coach who is about to turn 70. It will be crucial to replace him with someone capable of elevating the program. History shows that SDSU's administration does not have an unblemished track record in that regard. In short, this football program has risen from the ashes of previous decades. It remains to be seen whether this renaissance will continue. AzWm PS: It will take more than hiring a new OC to resurrect the Aztec offense. While SDSU has the distinction of having the lowest CCG crowd in the short history of the MWCCG, there has never been overwhelming support for the game anywhere in this conference. There have always been tickets available the day of the game. Lots of them. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jan 3, 2020 23:32:51 GMT -8
How do we upgrade the program with no money and not all that much fan support? How many decades does it take to convince people that we can't upgrade the program under the circumstances. We are in the same position regarding Fresno State as we were 50 years ago. And I am under the impression that Fresno State can pay a head coach more than we can. And we're supposed to find someone to "take us to the next level?" What makes you sure that Fresno State has more money than we do? They may have, but where is the evidence that they do? In any case, my guess is that SDSU will find the money to pay a new coach more than we now pay Rocky Long. What worries me is whether the school will exercise better judgement in the matter of hiring a new HC than was done several times in the past four decades. It may be too much to expect that we can find another Don Coryell, but the program has surely improved enough to hire quality candidates. The trick is to pick the right one. AzWm |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jan 3, 2020 23:39:45 GMT -8
In my list of positives, I neglected to add the great defense that has characterized Rocky's teams.
AzWm
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Post by aztecdan8 on Jan 3, 2020 23:40:18 GMT -8
How do we upgrade the program with no money and not all that much fan support? How many decades does it take to convince people that we can't upgrade the program under the circumstances. We are in the same position regarding Fresno State as we were 50 years ago. And I am under the impression that Fresno State can pay a head coach more than we can. And we're supposed to find someone to "take us to the next level?" What makes you sure that Fresno State has more money than we do? They may have, but where is the evidence that they do? In any case, my guess is that SDSU will find the money to pay a new coach more than we now pay Rocky Long. What worries me is whether the school will exercise better judgement in the matter of hiring a new HC than was done several times in the past four decades. It may be too much to expect that we can find another Don Coryell, but the program has surely improved enough to hire quality candidates. The trick is to pick the right one. AzWm It’s interesting... Cincinnati nails almost every coaching hire now for over 2 decades. The only whiff was Tommy Tuberville. They’ve hired Mark D’Antonio, Brian Kelly, Butch Jones, and now Luke Fikkell. Hit everyone way out of the park. No reason we can’t on our next hire |
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Post by sdsudevil on Jan 4, 2020 8:17:37 GMT -8
People who live in SD are the best promoters. They need a good team and a good experience to drag their friends to. You can't harvest what never hit hit the ground.
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Post by Frantic on Jan 4, 2020 8:37:20 GMT -8
Renew season tickets before 1/24 and get a discount.
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Post by zollner on Jan 4, 2020 8:51:25 GMT -8
Maybe Brady Hoak will still be around when Rocky decides to retire?
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Post by gocoaztec on Jan 4, 2020 12:19:28 GMT -8
Let's see if we can isolate the essential elements of SDSU football as we enter 2020. 1. The 2010-2019 decade is the only one in school history in which there was not one single losing season. 2. The 2010-2019 decade is the only one in school history in which the Aztecs went to a bowl game all ten years. 3. This past decade is the only one since the 70s in which an Aztec team finished a season in the Top-25. 4. The Aztecs won more conference championships in this past decade than in any season since the 70s. 5. The Aztecs have been blessed with more nationally recognized running backs in this past season than in any decade in history. ===================================================================== 6. The Aztec offense, generally average in the past decade, has been really bad the past two years. 7. Despite the very positive factors enumerated in points 1-5, the fanbase has not responded with the enthusiasm one might have anticipated. (example: The very disappointing crowd [20,000] that showed up for the MWC championship game in 2015.) 8. Long time fans question whether SDSU's administration is seriously committed to making Aztec football a national power. 9. As a follow-up to point 8, we have a coach who is about to turn 70. It will be crucial to replace him with someone capable of elevating the program. History shows that SDSU's administration does not have an unblemished track record in that regard. In short, this football program has risen from the ashes of previous decades. It remains to be seen whether this renaissance will continue. AzWm PS: It will take more than hiring a new OC to resurrect the Aztec offense. While SDSU has the distinction of having the lowest CCG crowd in the short history of the MWCCG, there has never been overwhelming support for the game anywhere in this conference. There have always been tickets available the day of the game. Lots of them. Wyoming had 3000 more fans at the bitterly cold 2016 championship game than we had at the beautiful 2015 game. And AF brought way more fans to SD than we brought to Laramie. Our poor attendance of the 2015 championship game drove home (to me) that we don’t have the fan support to reach our potential. Our lack of fan support is by far our biggest limitation. If we could draw 40k plus to every game, as we should based on population and lack of competition, we would be properly resourced and would get national attention. As it is, why should anyone else care when the people of SD, including thousands of living alumni, don’t care? THIS is the painful truth that limits SDSU football. But, I am an optimist, and the future is what we make it. Go Aztecs! |
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Post by aardvark on Jan 4, 2020 12:25:12 GMT -8
While SDSU has the distinction of having the lowest CCG crowd in the short history of the MWCCG, there has never been overwhelming support for the game anywhere in this conference. There have always been tickets available the day of the game. Lots of them. Wyoming had 3000 more fans at the bitterly cold 2016 championship game than we had at the beautiful 2015 game. And AF brought way more fans to SD than we brought to Laramie. Our poor attendance of the 2015 championship game drove home (to me) that we don’t have the fan support to reach our potential. Our lack of fan support is by far our biggest limitation. If we could draw 40k plus to every game, as we should based on population and lack of competition, we would be properly resourced and would get national attention. As it is, why should anyone else care when the people of SD, including thousands of living alumni, don’t care? THIS is the painful truth that limits SDSU football. But, I am an optimist, and the future is what we make it. Go Aztecs! I don't disagree with you. But the MWCCG has never sold out, or come anywhere near to selling out, any of the years it has been played. It is embarrassing that we had the smallest crowd for the game (so far), but knowing the game is on TV, people would just rather stay home and watch it. And looking at the other crowds in the game's history, that would appear to be true anywhere the game has been played. |
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Post by aztech on Jan 4, 2020 12:45:01 GMT -8
How do we upgrade the program with no money and not all that much fan support? How many decades does it take to convince people that we can't upgrade the program under the circumstances. We are in the same position regarding Fresno State as we were 50 years ago. And I am under the impression that Fresno State can pay a head coach more than we can. And we're supposed to find someone to "take us to the next level?" Replacing an OC is not about the money. Rocky has been in this business for decades and should have some capable and affordable connections available. Most of us are realistic and know we don't have the dough to hire some P5 OC. What we don't want is someone who's willing to come here to retire or is ready to. |
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Post by aztecnails on Jan 4, 2020 14:00:21 GMT -8
the number one factor for championship game's lack of attendance is that the location is not known until one week before that game. the second reason might be that the schools men's basketball team may have a home game that day. SDSU had that problem until they moved the hoops against usd at Petco to sunday afternoon in 2015. the third reason is fans working that day or the night before. that is what makes the hoops tournament so good the location is set that fans can plan.
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Post by jdaztec on Jan 4, 2020 14:16:19 GMT -8
I've lived in San Diego more than half my life now ( over 30 years) and it seems to me that San Diegans as a whole don't do anything until its "The Thing to do ". There are us hardcore Aztec Fans and then there are others who will show up ( and say they have been fans forever) when the stars collide and we are on winning streak, beat a big time program and media is really promoting it. These same people would also come out and support the "pet rock" if social media was pushing it and others liked it, it became the"thing to do". This town seems different than those whose fans follow their team through thick and thin and never waver. For this reason the 35k stadium we will hopefully have soon is probably just the right size. It will always serve us well, under normal circumstances when we draw 25-30k and the be "the place to be" , the "hot ticket" when the stars collide.
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Post by Sdsu4life on Jan 4, 2020 14:23:39 GMT -8
How do we upgrade the program with no money and not all that much fan support? How many decades does it take to convince people that we can't upgrade the program under the circumstances. We are in the same position regarding Fresno State as we were 50 years ago. And I am under the impression that Fresno State can pay a head coach more than we can. And we're supposed to find someone to "take us to the next level?" What makes you sure that Fresno State has more money than we do? They may have, but where is the evidence that they do? In any case, my guess is that SDSU will find the money to pay a new coach more than we now pay Rocky Long. What worries me is whether the school will exercise better judgement in the matter of hiring a new HC than was done several times in the past four decades. It may be too much to expect that we can find another Don Coryell, but the program has surely improved enough to hire quality candidates. The trick is to pick the right one. AzWm It's not necessarily about having more money. It's about willing to spend it and willing to invest the money. I am sure SDSU as a whole and also their Athletic Program has more money than Fresno State and its Athletic department. However, there are programs that have less money than we do who put their money where their mouth is and who put up the money to win, or put up the money to assemble a good staff. I am sure there are football programs who has less money than us but have a bigger budget allocated to them. |
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