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Post by myownwords on Nov 10, 2019 14:04:22 GMT -8
boos are not a bad thing as the fans have high expectations for our Aztecs and especially after fresno lost and considering any one of 4 teams could now win the west. had the Aztecs won, they would have had a 2 game lead in the west and clinch a tie for the west. that what makes the fans take the step of booing. it is called frustration. Well said. |
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Post by myownwords on Nov 10, 2019 18:58:44 GMT -8
When you can't run the ball, and a 2.9 ypc average says just that, then you need your QB to make plays to allow you to win the game and Agnew's 25.8 QBR shows he wasn't up to the task. Our offense sucks because the line and Agnew are not good. And, the play that hurt us the most was on ST. With the game tied at 10 and with us set to receive a punt our PR fielded that punt at the 8 yard line. When there is a good chance for a touchback you stand at the 10 yard line. If you have to take a step back to field the punt then you let it drop instead. Odds are it will go into the endzone for a TB. We did not get a first down on that series, punted to give Nevada great field position at their 45 and 5 plays later they were in the endzone and the momentum drastically changed in favor of Nevada. Though a close second was that horrible pick in the redzone Agnew threw right before halftime. This is correct, OP is not entirely correct. We just don't have the talent on offense to do much more than we're doing. Our top running back is hurt. Our QB had a bad game. Our line is ineffective. A starting receiver is a walk-on. Yes, I think staff changes are needed, but they don't have much to work with. The talent is sufficient in direct proportion to our deficient coaching and recruiting. |
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Post by Den60 on Nov 11, 2019 8:00:01 GMT -8
This is correct, OP is not entirely correct. We just don't have the talent on offense to do much more than we're doing. Our top running back is hurt. Our QB had a bad game. Our line is ineffective. A starting receiver is a walk-on. Yes, I think staff changes are needed, but they don't have much to work with. I'm not sure where the 2.9 came from. Our seasonal yards per carry overall is 3.3 and that includes sacks of Agnew which the NCAA inexplicably calls rushes. In fact, all our running backs are averaging over 3.3 ypc and even that is a bit misleading. The 3.4 belongs to Washington who Horton apparently thinks wouldn't benefit from sitting out a couple games because Jeff continues to play him although Juwan is clearly not close to 100% physically. Agnew is devoid of the ability to complete long passes and we therefore have nothing in the way of a vertical attack this season. However, Agnew showed against Nevada that he can find tight ends open over the middle and we have two very good ones yet Horton only rarely targets them. I do agree with Den about Agnew's end zone interception. Nevada was a team coming in which had one of the lowest number of interceptions in the country but it isn't too difficult to pick off a pass when the opposing quarterback gets the snap and then looks straight at the intended receiver prior to throwing the ball. That play not only cost us at least three points, it gave Nevada the momentum going into the second half. One final point. Since we literally never use a trick play such as Nevada pulled off last night with a receiver or running back throwing a pass downfield, I assume we don't have a single WR or RB capable of doing so. Can that be true? The 2.9 ypc is our stat line from the game. Agnew was sacked twice that game and I don't recall either being a huge loss. You really would prefer to see something north of a 4.0 ypc average. |
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Post by 12414 on Nov 11, 2019 10:32:32 GMT -8
One final point. Since we literally never use a trick play such as Nevada pulled off last night with a receiver or running back throwing a pass downfield, I assume we don't have a single WR or RB capable of doing so. Can that be true? Bringing up trick plays is a great point. With the bye week, Horton had two weeks to prepare for Nevada. What a better way to spark a crap offense than to incorporate a couple of trick plays into the playbook? But creating a trick play is beyond Horton’s scope. His definition of a trick play is to not run on first down. |
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Post by chris92065 on Nov 11, 2019 10:37:59 GMT -8
It starts at the top.
Rocky is not going fire Horton or himself unless told to do so.
Wicker is not going to make a change that costs money, unless he has money.
It starts with the boosters(US), until the boosters start making it rain in wickers office then rocky(Horton) are here to stay.
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Post by fisher1fan on Nov 11, 2019 22:55:00 GMT -8
It starts at the top. Rocky is not going fire Horton or himself unless told to do so. Wicker is not going to make a change that costs money, unless he has money. It starts with the boosters(US), until the boosters start making it rain in wickers office then rocky(Horton) are here to stay. Good point amount money. How much longer are their contracts? I disagree with long extensions unless it is in the case of Tony Gwynn or Steve Fisher type of lifetime coach. No need to risk it. I support Brady Hoke for the top job. He seems to be the best HC we have had. Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t know. |
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Post by moctezumaii on Nov 12, 2019 4:51:45 GMT -8
 Flounder needs to go. |
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 12, 2019 5:10:49 GMT -8
Tonight, I crossed over. I gave the benefit of the doubt, just as long as the wins piled up. But this L was especially costly, as at least a middle-tier bowl was on the menu. That's gone. Something is clearly wrong o-side, and it's not the players. Everything I saw tonight for 3 hours -- plastered onto the backdrop of 2 seasons -- pointed to one man: The offensive coordinator. It pains to see the defense put on stunning state-of-the-art displays week in, week out, only to have the O look like it is stuck in the Fielding Yost era. It's a waste. I'm confident you can have a grad assistant put on the OC headsets and call a better game. Rocky indicated he knows all this after the Weber State debacle to open the season. He needs to act on that knowledge sometime during the next few weeks. (PS... No, I did not -- and will not ever -- boo my Aztecs. Just needed something to fit the title and occasion!) Fielding Yost's teams scored a ton though. One season they almost averaged a point per minute I'd remove my left nut for half the production |
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Post by MarshallU on Nov 12, 2019 11:41:48 GMT -8
When Vista's OC is more creative and flexible than SDSU's OC you know there's a problem. Vista's OC is more creative and flexible than Jeff Horton. thanks for clarifying |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 12, 2019 11:46:59 GMT -8
When Vista's OC is more creative and flexible than SDSU's OC you know there's a problem. Vista's OC is more creative and flexible than Jeff Horton. thanks for clarifying You bet! Glad to help!  |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Nov 13, 2019 7:52:00 GMT -8
1 Big Thing: The SDSU offense has been average to bad over the last five years which was hidden by two spectacular running backs and one of the nations best special teams coaches. While the true offensive production was somewhat hidden for years, it is now evident, plain and clear which must lead to at least a new offensive coordinator at the end of the season.
SDSU Points per possession, more important than total points since we play a ball control offense...
Summary:
1. Defense has been very consistent, good, very good and great over the last five years.
2. Offense was very productive when we had folks like Pump and Penny with solid rankings in the 30s and bad and below average the last two years.
3. From 2015 through 2017 the offense was helped by the Special Teams ranked 15th in 2015 lead by the 4th ranked kick return, ranked 14th in 2016 lead by the 2nd ranked kick return and ranked 11th in 2017 led by the 1st ranked kick return team...
4. In 2018 the special teams dropped to 52nd with the 52nd ranked kick return and in 2019 the special teams are ranked 16th with the 5th ranked kick return.
5. What is the same... over the five years the QBs, Smith, Chapman and Agnew are about the same, same for the quality of line, receivers and TEs... the OC and Line coach is the same...
6. What is different... Penny and Pump are gone and you can see it in how many big plays there were and now aren’t... Hauck is gone and he led the special teams...
Offense
2019 - 1.90 89th
2018 - 1.68 108th
2017 - 2.45 36th
2016 - 2.66 30th
2015 - 2.48 37th
Defense
2019 - 1.43 11th
2018 - 1.85 39th
2017 - 1.79 38th
2016 - 1.74 25th
2015 - 1.41 11th
Net
2019 - 0.47 42nd
2018 - (0.17) 74th
2017 - 0.65 27th
2016 - 0.92 18th
2015 - 1.07 16th
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Post by Old School on Nov 13, 2019 8:19:33 GMT -8
We just don't have the talent on offense to do much more than we're doing. Our top running back is hurt. Our QB had a bad game. Our line is ineffective. A starting receiver is a walk-on. Yes, I think staff changes are needed, but they don't have much to work with. And whose fault is is that we "don't have much to work with"? The coaching staff: 1. Recruits the players 2. Develops the players 3. Designes the game plan. 4. Calls the plays. If we "don't have much to work with", that is a reason to fire the entire offensive staff. Indeed, it starts with recruiting. Herm Edwards and Arizona State took our best recruiters on staff. They left almost two years ago. The kids they brought in are being coached by guys who didn't recruit them, meaning they don't know the players very well. Thus, you "don't have much to work with". Oldie Out |
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