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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 5, 2010 22:20:50 GMT -8
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Apr 6, 2010 7:49:20 GMT -8
The logic that argues why the bill could be repealed also backs up the call for true universal health care. On that I agree 100%.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 6, 2010 8:02:47 GMT -8
The logic that argues why the bill could be repealed also backs up the call for true universal health care. On that I agree 100%. Please define universal health care. As a matter of fact, we now have universal health care in the sense that anyone going to an emergency room must be and is treated. Of course, that is not an ideal system. Keep in mind that a very large percentage, about half as I recall, of the 30 million uninsured referred to by the President, actually could be insured right now. Many qualify for existing programs. Many more, the young and healthy mostly, can afford insurance but choose not to obtain that coverage. There was, in other words, never a reason (except collectivist ideology) to pass this huge monstrosity of a law. The truly needy could have been helped with a much, much less costly and intrusive reform. But that, of course, would not have complied with the collectivist vision of a super state that is charged with making things fair for the whole population. Whether that population wants it or not. AzWm
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Apr 6, 2010 9:13:48 GMT -8
Please define universal health care. Easy. Medicare for all. Everyone, who works, pays. Everyone benefits. It is insurance so the wider the load is spread the more affordable it is. This is the only logical fiscal model that would work. It is also the only fiscal model supported by Physicians, Nurses, and AARP.
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Post by aztecwin on Apr 6, 2010 11:01:00 GMT -8
Please define universal health care. Easy. Medicare for all. Everyone, who works, pays. Everyone benefits. It is insurance so the wider the load is spread the more affordable it is. This is the only logical fiscal model that would work. It is also the only fiscal model supported by Physicians, Nurses, and AARP. Medicare for those of us now on it is going broke. That is just not even a starting place for a discussion. Making Medicare solvent by raising the age for coverage and examining all the other parts of Medicare that have been tacked on would be a place to start looking. We need some changes to our health care system in general, but this massive power grab by the Obama Administration must be repealed and replaced with incremental change that can be monitored for the effect of each change. I expect that to happen for a couple reasons. One is that this bill will most likely not pass muster with the Supreme Court after all the State suits are litigated. Another is that the overwhelming opposition to the bill will probably mean that it will be repealed and/or defunded.
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