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Post by jdaztec on Dec 24, 2016 14:58:41 GMT -8
Maybe they rebrand as The "ReChargers"
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Post by aardvark on Dec 24, 2016 15:03:46 GMT -8
Just reverse that. The Rams to L.A. is also a long term game, in that THEY are building a stadium. If THEY start winning and the Chargers do things like they are doing today, the Chargers will be an embarrassment for the league. Any team which loses to the Browns is already an embarrassment for the league. And the Chargers think they would have a new, energized fan base in L.A. Should the team move there, they could be called the L.A. Delusionals.
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Post by breaztec on Dec 25, 2016 11:05:32 GMT -8
Any team which loses to the Browns is already an embarrassment for the league. And the Chargers think they would have a new, energized fan base in L.A. Should the team move there, they could be called the L.A. Delusionals. No city needs to,sue to keep name like the browns did. New LA name is the Refunds.
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Post by SD Johnny on Dec 25, 2016 11:30:44 GMT -8
And the Chargers think they would have a new, energized fan base in L.A. Should the team move there, they could be called the L.A. Delusionals. No city needs to,sue to keep name like the browns did. New LA name is the Refunds. As part of the city's lease agreement with the Chargers they cannot sue if they leave.
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Post by aztecbolt on Dec 25, 2016 12:42:18 GMT -8
No city needs to,sue to keep name like the browns did. New LA name is the Refunds. As part of the city's lease agreement with the Chargers they cannot sue if they leave. What's interesting is that if I remember correctly, the window to exit the lease begins February 1st of every year. However, the decision to relocate to LA is January 15th. I'm no lawyer but if Spanos decides to move, to me that would be breaking the lease.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Dec 25, 2016 12:55:33 GMT -8
As part of the city's lease agreement with the Chargers they cannot sue if they leave. What's interesting is that if I remember correctly, the window to exit the lease begins February 1st of every year. However, the decision to relocate to LA is January 15th. I'm no lawyer but if Spanos decides to move, to me that would be breaking the lease. No they are mutually exclusive.
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Post by aardvark on Dec 25, 2016 13:09:22 GMT -8
As part of the city's lease agreement with the Chargers they cannot sue if they leave. What's interesting is that if I remember correctly, the window to exit the lease begins February 1st of every year. However, the decision to relocate to LA is January 15th. I'm no lawyer but if Spanos decides to move, to me that would be breaking the lease. And he also owes $12.575 million to the city should the Chargers leave.
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Post by AzTex on Dec 25, 2016 13:11:34 GMT -8
As part of the city's lease agreement with the Chargers they cannot sue if they leave. What's interesting is that if I remember correctly, the window to exit the lease begins February 1st of every year. However, the decision to relocate to LA is January 15th. I'm no lawyer but if Spanos decides to move, to me that would be breaking the lease. As I understand it, there is an early exit clause built into the Charger's lease. They have to pay a certain amount, depending on how many years are left in the lease. So long as they give the required notice and pay the exit fee they would not be "breaking" the lease.
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Post by aardvark on Dec 25, 2016 14:20:17 GMT -8
What's interesting is that if I remember correctly, the window to exit the lease begins February 1st of every year. However, the decision to relocate to LA is January 15th. I'm no lawyer but if Spanos decides to move, to me that would be breaking the lease. As I understand it, there is an early exit clause built into the Charger's lease. They have to pay a certain amount, depending on how many years are left in the lease. So long as they give the required notice and pay the exit fee they would not be "breaking" the lease. In 2017; $12.575 mil. 2018; $9.76 mil. 2019; $6.74 mil. 2020; $3.49 mil. Which come nowhere near to paying off the last stadium expansion.
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Post by aztecbolt on Dec 25, 2016 21:03:28 GMT -8
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Post by aztecbolt on Dec 25, 2016 21:05:46 GMT -8
What's interesting is that if I remember correctly, the window to exit the lease begins February 1st of every year. However, the decision to relocate to LA is January 15th. I'm no lawyer but if Spanos decides to move, to me that would be breaking the lease. As I understand it, there is an early exit clause built into the Charger's lease. They have to pay a certain amount, depending on how many years are left in the lease. So long as they give the required notice and pay the exit fee they would not be "breaking" the lease. They're allowed to terminate the lease between Feb 1st and May 1st. www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/12040153/san-diego-chargers-commit-play-2015-qualcomm-stadium"Since 2007, the Chargers have had a three-month window to renew the team's year-to-year lease with the City of San Diego for Qualcomm Stadium that permits the team to terminate the lease at any time between Feb. 1 and May 1."
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Post by standiego on Dec 25, 2016 21:42:18 GMT -8
would any one be surprised to hear that the Chargers will ask the NFL for an extension of another year , so it keeps Raiders from going to LA - ? then see if Raiders also extend their Oakland agreement or decide to move to Las Vegas ? What the Rams do NOT want is the Raiders in LA . As of now Oakland , Las Vegas and even San Diego wants the Raiders ( do you think SD City Council had a conversation with Mark Davis - last week when he was in town or called him to talk about things ? )
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Post by aztecmouse on Dec 25, 2016 22:00:47 GMT -8
would any one be surprised to hear that the Chargers will ask the NFL for an extension of another year , so it keeps Raiders from going to LA - ? then see if Raiders also extend their Oakland agreement or decide to move to Las Vegas ? What the Rams do NOT want is the Raiders in LA . As of now Oakland , Las Vegas and even San Diego wants the Raiders ( do you think SD City Council had a conversation with Mark Davis - last week when he was in town or called him to talk about things ? ) No, I would not be surprised if the Chargers asked for an extension ( though I think it's doubtful) and no, I don't think the city council contacted Mark Davis last week.
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Post by oldie on Dec 25, 2016 22:28:08 GMT -8
when the chargers leave, I'll be sad for a short time, but my life certainly will not be affected, other than changing my sunday tv viewing a little. so mr. spanos, move, keep the current coaching staff and see how quickly l a accepts you.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Dec 25, 2016 23:01:38 GMT -8
when the chargers leave, I'll be sad for a short time, but my life certainly will not be affected, other than changing my sunday tv viewing a little. so mr. spanos, move, keep the current coaching staff and see how quickly l a accepts you. Dean doesn't care about acceptance he cares about... $dolLAr$
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Post by aztecbolt on Dec 26, 2016 9:39:13 GMT -8
when the chargers leave, I'll be sad for a short time, but my life certainly will not be affected, other than changing my sunday tv viewing a little. so mr. spanos, move, keep the current coaching staff and see how quickly l a accepts you. Dean doesn't care about acceptance he cares about... $dolLAr$ If he really wanted LA and to do it right, he should/would have gone for AEG's Famer's Field stadium and beat Kroenke there. That mistake and the whole Carson and now Inglewood debacle, shows how terrible of a businessman he really is.
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Post by legkick on Dec 26, 2016 9:45:59 GMT -8
Dean doesn't care about acceptance he cares about... $dolLAr$ Yeah, this isn't your best argument. If all he cared about was $$$ (or at least the pursuit of it), he would have moved the team a long time ago. He is the one who likes living in San Diego; it is rumored to be his siblings and possibly his children who want to move the team. The other thing against your argument is that a huge asset value bump is no longer a slam dunk. The Rams got there first. No one in LA cares about the Chargers. The team stinks. He can only afford (and with loans) to go as a tenant. There is a non-zero risk that he could take a financial bath if he moves to LA and has to sell the team because conditions stay the same or worsen. Your better angle is - inherited owner/incompetent businessman.
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Post by standiego on Dec 26, 2016 13:03:56 GMT -8
Believe you are naïve if you do not think City Council or others have Not contacted the Raiders on what they would want to move here . This is business - City Council does not care what NFL team we have here as long as we can get one - especially the Raiders . Raiders game here was close to a sell out - would be very factual to suggest to Davis they could easily get sell outs every week - with LA and Bay area fans coming here ,plus the SD NFL fans .
Also would not hurt Spanos to ask for another year here . Especially after the team 's performance this year they are not going to be a great draw in LA . Now if they improve next year they can see if they can get LA crowd? as they move up there, put off the Raiders or get them to go to Las Vegas ? LA stadium is not going to be ready until 2019 ? so no need to be up there before 2018 or 2019
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Post by SD Johnny on Dec 26, 2016 15:27:05 GMT -8
Two things. First, it will almost certainly take much more than what was offered to the Chargers to attract a new team here. See what Las Vegas is offering the Raiders as an example of what but takes to attract the NFL to a small market in the modern era. Second, whatever is offered will face a vote of the electorate which Faulconer confirmed even in the case if the land lease last week in 1090. Good luck with that...especially for the Raiders and their thug fans.
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Post by standiego on Dec 26, 2016 19:34:14 GMT -8
And if the Chargers say good bye for LA . City of SD could offer Oakland same deal it offered the Chargers - play in MV at the Q while a new facility is being built . NFL can make up its own rules about Vegas-does it want a team there or not ? or what it may want to do to keep a team in San Diego or does it prefer Vegas ?
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