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Post by aztecnails on Dec 18, 2016 11:22:58 GMT -8
the only good news was drinking beer at the sports arena watching Aztecs basketball and the all time home attendance record against north carolina will never be broken.
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Post by fanhood on Dec 18, 2016 11:27:32 GMT -8
This is the same stuff Jason LaCanfora has been rehashing all year. Same article, same source..... But is he wrong? |
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Post by bolt1963 on Dec 18, 2016 11:29:48 GMT -8
You guys better be shovel ready and announce an Aztecs stadium with locked in financing the minute the Chargers announce they're leaving. You've had years to have it figured out, I will be beyond pissed if SDSU drags their dicks on this. Qualcomm needs to be razed ASAP. I don't subscribe to the theory it will necessarily help SDSU football. Might help attendance once people realize how nice it is to go to a football game that isn't played in a dump. But how else does it help? How else are the Chargers holding the program back? SDSU should dominate the mountain west year over year. Playing in Qualcomm wasn't preventing that The misplaced anger here is comical. Misplaced anger? What is it you disagree with? That SDSU shouldn't be shovel ready? That they shouldn't have a plan? That Qualcomm shouldn't be razed ASAP? I don't understand nor do I agree with the anti Chargers sentiment. But all I am saying is step up with an actionable plan immediately upon the Chargers moving instead of dragging your dicks for years. I hope for the former but unfortunately expect the latter which will yes, piss me off and make me angry. Won't it you? |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Dec 18, 2016 11:44:12 GMT -8
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Dec 18, 2016 12:06:12 GMT -8
You guys better be shovel ready and announce an Aztecs stadium with locked in financing the minute the Chargers announce they're leaving. You've had years to have it figured out, I will be beyond pissed if SDSU drags their dicks on this. Qualcomm needs to be razed ASAP. I don't subscribe to the theory it will necessarily help SDSU football. Might help attendance once people realize how nice it is to go to a football game that isn't played in a dump. But how else does it help? How else are the Chargers holding the program back? SDSU should dominate the mountain west year over year. Playing in Qualcomm wasn't preventing that You will be mad if State doesn't have a financing plan for a stadium the minute the Chargers leave? Who knows if the City is going to work with State. I would have to believe that the city politicians being who they are and wanting to sell pixie dust that they do, will leave the Q up as long through the next election cycle as to tell their voters (for the districts that overwhelmingly support the Chargers) that San Diego is a great City and that they are looking to entice, the Raiders, the Jaguars, you name it, they will sell the hope. That will delay anything being done with the Q site, to sell that hope, and it will be a few years before the pols give in. This is why I just support the Aztecs building in Adobe Falls and not being played by the pols. In terms of being mad, San Diego Fans are caught in a situation where an old guard family stills owns the family and in essence is the team is the family business and main asset versus the new guard of owners where the team is one but of many assets that they own. Mix that dynamic with CA and the natural instinct of the resident wanting to vote in all the benefits without actually paying for the benefits and you get the Chargers leaving. In CA, you have to be willing to spend your own capital to get it down, the electorate won't do it. This is what makes me laugh about the people that call out SD as not being big time. LA said no to taxes, SF said not to taxes, and Oakland will say no to taxes. Niners and Rams need to pony up the lion's share for these projects. SD is no different than any other City in CA. This is the same situation for the Raiders and the Davis Family. JMO. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Dec 18, 2016 12:25:31 GMT -8
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Dec 18, 2016 14:10:41 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 14:14:08 GMT -8
The misplaced anger here is comical. Misplaced anger? What is it you disagree with? That SDSU shouldn't be shovel ready? That they shouldn't have a plan? That Qualcomm shouldn't be razed ASAP? I don't understand nor do I agree with the anti Chargers sentiment. But all I am saying is step up with an actionable plan immediately upon the Chargers moving instead of dragging your dicks for years. I hope for the former but unfortunately expect the latter which will yes, piss me off and make me angry. Won't it you? This is the exact misplaced anger that I am referring to. Angry at who in particular? And why? The chargers and the city couldn't get anything done for 15 years and you think anyone should be angry if one government organization working with another government organization will have an actionable plan immediately??? And what exactly is an 'actionable plan'? Who gets to define that word? Admit it... you are angry because you think the chargers are leaving and you want to blame someone... seems like someone SDSU related for it. Maybe stop being angry about something you have no control over? Just a something for you to consider... (btw, dragging things out is what cities do). |
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Dec 18, 2016 14:20:16 GMT -8
Regardless, get back on point. SDSU better have a plan to purchase or least the land and have shovels in the dirt within months of the Chargers leaving. You've better have been greasing the pols and hit the ground running. Considering SDSU WEST has been "in the works" for the past decade we better have a plan in place. According to Presudent Hirshman they are pursuing SDSU WEST. Of course I don't know specific detail but I do now there is tremendous public & political support for SDSU WEST both local & state. Go SDSU WEST! Go Aztecs! |
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Post by bolt1963 on Dec 18, 2016 14:30:01 GMT -8
Misplaced anger? What is it you disagree with? That SDSU shouldn't be shovel ready? That they shouldn't have a plan? That Qualcomm shouldn't be razed ASAP? I don't understand nor do I agree with the anti Chargers sentiment. But all I am saying is step up with an actionable plan immediately upon the Chargers moving instead of dragging your dicks for years. I hope for the former but unfortunately expect the latter which will yes, piss me off and make me angry. Won't it you? This is the exact misplaced anger that I am referring to. Angry at who in particular? And why? The chargers and the city couldn't get anything done for 15 years and you think anyone should be angry if one government organization working with another government organization will have an actionable plan immediately??? And what exactly is an 'actionable plan'? Who gets to define that word? Admit it... you are angry because you think the chargers are leaving and you want to blame someone... seems like someone SDSU related for it. Maybe stop being angry about something you have no control over? Just a something for you to consider... (btw, dragging things out is what cities do). Again, I am totally failing to see why you consider that misplaced. Qualcomm has been a dilapidated money pit for how long? How much differed maintenance is it carrying? Aztec fans have been saying SDSU West is a done deal for how long? Maybe you and 2003 need to get on the same page. You wouldn't be angry if everyone drags their dicks over moving San Diego forward? You wouldn't be angry at the city for sinking money into the Qualcomm money pit for a day longer than necessary? Everyone knew the Chargers were either going to get it done or leave. You won't be angry your universities leaders haven't prepared and worked out an actionable plan for the day they leave? Are you serious? And actionable is fairly straight forward. It's going to the city right away and saying we are prepared to do A, B and C. This is how we're going to get it done. You know, some freakn leadership in this small time city. And I hope we know each other somehow, because you remembering what I did for work 15 years ago and what HS I went to is a bit creepy, no? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 14:38:48 GMT -8
This is the exact misplaced anger that I am referring to. Angry at who in particular? And why? The chargers and the city couldn't get anything done for 15 years and you think anyone should be angry if one government organization working with another government organization will have an actionable plan immediately??? And what exactly is an 'actionable plan'? Who gets to define that word? Admit it... you are angry because you think the chargers are leaving and you want to blame someone... seems like someone SDSU related for it. Maybe stop being angry about something you have no control over? Just a something for you to consider... (btw, dragging things out is what cities do). Again, I am totally failing to see why you consider that misplaced. Qualcomm has been a dilapidated money pit for how long? How much differed maintenance is it carrying? Aztec fans have been saying SDSU West is a done deal for how long? Maybe you and 2003 need to get on the same page. You wouldn't be angry if everyone drags their dicks over moving San Diego forward? You wouldn't be angry at the city for sinking money into the Qualcomm money pit for a day longer than necessary? Everyone knew the Chargers were either going to get it done or leave. You won't be angry your universities leaders haven't prepared and worked out an actionable plan for the day they leave? Are you serious? And actionable is fairly straight forward. It's going to the city right away and saying we are prepared to do A, B and C. This is how we're going to get it done. You know, some freakn leadership in this small time city. And I hope we know each other somehow, because you remembering what I did for work 15 years ago and what HS I went to is a bit creepy, no? I'm not going to be angry at something I have no control over. Who are you angry at?? ( as I said, seems like you want to be mad at sdsu) Sorry that I have a good memory... Sorry that you don't... You used the creepy line last time I conversed with you here. |
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Post by bolt1963 on Dec 18, 2016 14:44:58 GMT -8
Has nothing to do with memory man. So yeah, it's creepy as %#$&.
I've made it very clear who I'd be angry at. Don't see how it's misplaced at all. Something needs to be done in Mission Valley and Qualcomm needs to be razed as fast as possible. 2003 has told me countless times SDSU West is a done deal once the Chargers leave. I will be angry of that's not the case. Again, I would fully support SDSU West if the Chargers aren't in Mission Valley.
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Post by SD Johnny on Dec 18, 2016 14:45:01 GMT -8
This is the exact misplaced anger that I am referring to. Angry at who in particular? And why? The chargers and the city couldn't get anything done for 15 years and you think anyone should be angry if one government organization working with another government organization will have an actionable plan immediately??? And what exactly is an 'actionable plan'? Who gets to define that word? Admit it... you are angry because you think the chargers are leaving and you want to blame someone... seems like someone SDSU related for it. Maybe stop being angry about something you have no control over? Just a something for you to consider... (btw, dragging things out is what cities do). Again, I am totally failing to see why you consider that misplaced. Qualcomm has been a dilapidated money pit for how long? How much differed maintenance is it carrying? Aztec fans have been saying SDSU West is a done deal for how long? Maybe you and 2003 need to get on the same page. You wouldn't be angry if everyone drags their dicks over moving San Diego forward? You wouldn't be angry at the city for sinking money into the Qualcomm money pit for a day longer than necessary? Everyone knew the Chargers were either going to get it done or leave. You won't be angry your universities leaders haven't prepared and worked out an actionable plan for the day they leave? Are you serious? And actionable is fairly straight forward. It's going to the city right away and saying we are prepared to do A, B and C. This is how we're going to get it done. You know, some freakn leadership in this small time city. And I hope we know each other somehow, because you remembering what I did for work 15 years ago and what HS I went to is a bit creepy, no? I couldn't be angry about the Q site if you paid me. It's human nature to vent frustration and while you can't see it it's plain as day to us. It's still not over yet by the way. |
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Post by legkick on Dec 18, 2016 14:50:36 GMT -8
Has nothing to do with memory man. So yeah, it's creepy as %#$&. I've made it very clear who I'd be angry at. Don't see how it's misplaced at all. Something needs to be done in Mission Valley and Qualcomm needs to be razed as fast as possible. 2003 has told me countless times SDSU West is a done deal once the Chargers leave. I will be angry of that's not the case. Again, I would fully support SDSU West if the Chargers aren't in Mission Valley. Why would you believe 2003 knows what is and isn't a done deal? He certainly is a forceful advocate, and he makes a good case for why the Q site should become an SDSU West, but he is not an insider. Your anger is really misplaced. Even if you think the Chargers should pay for all or most of a stadium in San Diego, then your anger could be targeted at them, but why? Aren't they entitled to make decisions that they think are best for the them, and if they think the City should pay for most (as the NFL has wanted in other locations), then those are the breaks. |
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Post by bolt1963 on Dec 18, 2016 14:53:31 GMT -8
Really? OK. I don't know how to respond to people who are cool with wasting time and money in Mission Valley. Especially for fans who want to play in a nice small stadium for the good of their football program. If I hated Qualcomm for my team and I have been hammering SD for subsidizing the Chargers, I'd be angry as all hell if everyone dragged their dicks. Strange takes fellas. But hey, San Diego
Good grief. Now there are three of you? Let's bottom line this. There are much better uses for those 166 acres. Whether it's a modern NFL stadium with ancillary development, SDSU West or private development.... My ANGER would be dragging it out, wasting money and not doing anything. How you guys find that misplaced is a total mystery
If the Chargers leave, I want to see SDSU West happen as fast as possible. What's the problem? You want to make excuses for the lump dick do nothings?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 15:05:59 GMT -8
Has nothing to do with memory man. So yeah, it's creepy as %#$&. I've made it very clear who I'd be angry at. Don't see how it's misplaced at all. Something needs to be done in Mission Valley and Qualcomm needs to be razed as fast as possible. 2003 has told me countless times SDSU West is a done deal once the Chargers leave. I will be angry of that's not the case. Again, I would fully support SDSU West if the Chargers aren't in Mission Valley. Hahahaha... I suppose you would think being smart is creepy. Feel free to be angry at sdsu if the stadium isn't gone within months of the chargers leaving if it makes you happy. Cheers. |
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Post by bolt1963 on Dec 18, 2016 15:13:12 GMT -8
Nah man. If you had told me a year ago what you did 15 years ago and where you went to HS, I'd have forgotten fairly quick as I wouldn't possibly give a rip, let alone your username. So to me that is strange. But that you keep bringing it up for no reason is what is creepy. But sure, chalk that up to you being "smart" if that makes you feel normal.
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Post by AZK619 on Dec 18, 2016 15:36:39 GMT -8
Aztec playing in giant, emotionless stadium kills attendance. Get fans and students closer to the action to get a better environment and they will continue to come back. Better game experience = more fans = better recruiting. So your entire statement is false. Yes, I said it may help with attendance. You could argue that will help with recruiting, but it would be negligible. There has never been an excuse for SDSU not dominating the Mountain West. And I've always felt the Chargers excuse was especially weak in every regard. I assume most you Aztecs who can't wait for the Chargers to leave are either transplants or have convinced yourselves of the Chargers boogeyman. I get it. I am a born and raised San Diegan, but a Colorado Buffalo. I know all about a portion of the fan base blaming the NFL. We do it all the time with the Donkeys. But it's just a convenient excuse when we're not winning. You know nothing. Your assumptions are way off. Born and raised in SD, sayonara Chargers. Do I need to say I was a Charger fan or currently don't give a care of this team with their sorry ownership. Being in the Pac 12 team is hardly something to be feeling sorry for. The Denver Broncos have been one of most consistent winning franchises in last past 20 to 25 years. Maybe if they Chagers didn't have bad ownership they wouldn't be in this predicament. I am sure if you read a Chargers forum you'll get more safe space reading that is up your alley. You can call it what you want, but the majority of SDSU fans who are invested in their future want the Chargers out of Mission Valley. |
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Post by AZK619 on Dec 18, 2016 15:39:30 GMT -8
Nah man. If you had told me a year ago what you did 15 years ago and where you went to HS, I'd have forgotten fairly quick as I wouldn't possibly give a rip, let alone your username. So to me that is strange. But that you keep bringing it up for no reason is what is creepy. But sure, chalk that up to you being "smart" if that makes you feel normal. Brah, do I need to give you a link to a Chargers forum? You won't get much sympathy here, tbh.  |
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Post by bolt1963 on Dec 18, 2016 15:49:32 GMT -8
Wow. You guys have lost your collective minds. OK. You win. If the Chargers leave I will try and be like you guys and not give a rip if nothing gets done and everyone drags their dicks. Strangest thread I've ever participated in.
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