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Post by AztecWilliam on May 25, 2016 16:12:56 GMT -8
There was a riot, of sorts, in Albuquerque last night. You probably read about it. Did you notice that the Albuquerque police brought out their mounted unit? Seven mounted officers. Seven. That was the entire mounted unit. Seven officers on horses. Seven.
How many does San Diego, a city of one million three hundred and eighty thousand (1,380,000) inhabitants have? None! Not one horse mounted officer. The mounted unit, which had eight horses, was disbanded in '09 for budgetary reasons.
Albuquerque, 557,000 population = 7 horses.
San Diego, 1.38 million population = Zero horses.
What's wrong with this picture?
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Post by AztecWilliam on May 25, 2016 16:24:59 GMT -8
Just saw a live feed from Anaheim, and the cops had their horse unit on duty. Fourteen mounted officers!
Anaheim: 14 horses.
Albuquerque: 7 horses.
San Diego: 0 horses.
(However, San Diego has many more penguins than either of the other two cities.)
AzWm
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Post by aztecwin on May 25, 2016 21:32:09 GMT -8
I think that much more important than what the Police have is what the Police do. That is up to a point. Rather than like the Baltimore incident where the Police were told to stand down and let the thugs riot and burn you need to empower the Police with aggressive "rules of engagement" to quickly control unruly crowds. When you find, like in Albuquerque, paid thugs, you arrest, identify the source of their funds and go after that source to the full extent of the law.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on May 26, 2016 9:14:19 GMT -8
I think that much more important than what the Police have is what the Police do. That is up to a point. Rather than like the Baltimore incident where the Police were told to stand down and let the thugs riot and burn you need to empower the Police with aggressive "rules of engagement" to quickly control unruly crowds. When you find, like in Albuquerque, paid thugs, you arrest, identify the source of their funds and go after that source to the full extent of the law. You mean like civil forfeiture? BTW. I actually agree with you, to a point, regarding the 'riots'. These people have a right to demonstrate, even to display the Mexican flag, but NOT to become violent. The police are in a tough position. |
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Post by aztecwin on May 26, 2016 12:29:33 GMT -8
I think that much more important than what the Police have is what the Police do. That is up to a point. Rather than like the Baltimore incident where the Police were told to stand down and let the thugs riot and burn you need to empower the Police with aggressive "rules of engagement" to quickly control unruly crowds. When you find, like in Albuquerque, paid thugs, you arrest, identify the source of their funds and go after that source to the full extent of the law. You mean like civil forfeiture? BTW. I actually agree with you, to a point, regarding the 'riots'. These people have a right to demonstrate, even to display the Mexican flag, but NOT to become violent. The police are in a tough position. Explain what you mean by "civil forfeiture". |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on May 26, 2016 13:09:11 GMT -8
You mean like civil forfeiture? BTW. I actually agree with you, to a point, regarding the 'riots'. These people have a right to demonstrate, even to display the Mexican flag, but NOT to become violent. The police are in a tough position. Explain what you mean by "civil forfeiture". You said; "you arrest, identify the source of their funds and go after that source to the full extent of the law." What you didn't say was "convict". Just because someone has been arrested doesn't necessarily mean they are guilty of a crime. The police taking people's money and property without conviction (and sometimes even an arrest) is fascist and I cannot believe it hasn't been struck down as unconstitutional yet. |
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Post by aztecwin on May 27, 2016 11:51:30 GMT -8
Explain what you mean by "civil forfeiture". You said; "you arrest, identify the source of their funds and go after that source to the full extent of the law." What you didn't say was "convict". Just because someone has been arrested doesn't necessarily mean they are guilty of a crime. The police taking people's money and property without conviction (and sometimes even an arrest) is fascist and I cannot believe it hasn't been struck down as unconstitutional yet. I see, you are reading much more into it than is there. What I mean by "going after" is to prosecute the source on legal grounds like funding a riot and such. In this case it may have been unions or The DNC. |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on May 27, 2016 15:06:58 GMT -8
You said; "you arrest, identify the source of their funds and go after that source to the full extent of the law." What you didn't say was "convict". Just because someone has been arrested doesn't necessarily mean they are guilty of a crime. The police taking people's money and property without conviction (and sometimes even an arrest) is fascist and I cannot believe it hasn't been struck down as unconstitutional yet. I see, you are reading much more into it than is there. What I mean by "going after" is to prosecute the source on legal grounds like funding a riot and such. In this case it may have been unions or The DNC. Back to the topic at hand. Where exactly, except for right wing talk radio, has it been substantiated that any of the violent demonstrators are being paid? |
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Post by aztecwin on May 27, 2016 16:37:08 GMT -8
I see, you are reading much more into it than is there. What I mean by "going after" is to prosecute the source on legal grounds like funding a riot and such. In this case it may have been unions or The DNC. Back to the topic at hand. Where exactly, except for right wing talk radio, has it been substantiated that any of the violent demonstrators are being paid? I just remember that some of these folks (mostly the orderly ones) are union organized and then these is this. Just one quick search showed this. www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/anti-trump-protesters-admit-answering-craigslist-ad-and-getting-paid-to-protest-trump/ |
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Post by Spud on May 29, 2016 7:01:31 GMT -8
There was a riot, of sorts, in Albuquerque last night. You probably read about it. Did you notice that the Albuquerque police brought out their mounted unit? Seven mounted officers. Seven. That was the entire mounted unit. Seven officers on horses. Seven. How many does San Diego, a city of one million three hundred and eighty thousand (1,380,000) inhabitants have? None! Not one horse mounted officer. The mounted unit, which had eight horses, was disbanded in '09 for budgetary reasons. Albuquerque, 557,000 population = 7 horses. San Diego, 1.38 million population = Zero horses. What's wrong with this picture? AzWm There's nothing wrong with this picture....horses are expensive, high liability and outdated. Besides, a majority of mounted units these days are used in ceremonial aspects rather than enforcement...that and maybe search and rescue in the back country. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 16:34:59 GMT -8
There is enough horseshit going on in San Diego already.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 3, 2016 23:33:13 GMT -8
Outdated? Hmm. I don't think so. For crowd control, especially when the situation might turn ugly, mounted units are invaluable. Ever tried to muscle your way past a horse that is trained to stop you? I'll bet not.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Sept 6, 2016 12:22:42 GMT -8
Outdated? Hmm. I don't think so. For crowd control, especially when the situation might turn ugly, mounted units are invaluable. Ever tried to muscle your way past a horse that is trained to stop you? I'll bet not. AzWm Maybe we should try elephants.  |
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