Palin??

[uwaztec]

Hey guys, I assume you don't want Obama to get a second term...right? Then tell me something, why is Sarah Palin taken seriously and idolized by the Right, tea party, FOX (o.k. I know why here$$). Did you hear her speech to the tea party? "Hopey Changy", crib notes written on her hand...who does that except an eighth grader? If I was the opposition ( I am a moderate) I would be praying that she runs.

[AztecWilliam]

The notes on the hand is simply a non-issue. Certainly not in the same category as Obama's not knowing how to pronounce "corpsman" or Biden's statement that FDR was President in 1929 and spoke then to the country on TV.

However, I am certainly not one who is super excited by Sarah. I like her and think she is a good person, but I am not convinced that she has an adequate grasp of the major issues of the day. Her best bet would be to continue pursuing a career as a speaker and TV personality, much as Roger Hedgecock has done in San Diego.

I would love to see someone such as John McCain, Mike Huckabee, or Mitt Romney in the Oval Office in 2013. Sarah Palin would not be any worse than Obama, when you come right down to it. I would trust her judgment any day over Obama's. Lots of people, especially those on the Left, put too much emphasis on verbal agility and advanced degrees from prestigious eastern universities. Unfortunately, those qualities do not necessarily guarantee that one will make good decisions. If Palin were the president, I feel certain she would not have engineered an obviously bogus deal to circumvent the law (i.e., the bankruptcy of GM and Chrysler). Nor would she have signed off on the obscene "stimulus" bill that has been an obvious failure. And, just perhaps, she would have actually made clear in some detail to the Congress what she would and would support in the way of health care legislation instead of defaulting to two Congressional obscenities such as Pelosi and Reid.

Sarah Palin will not, and in my view should not, become President of the United States. Perhaps the Democrats and their allies will realize someday soon that they are only building up her reputation with many Americans by their continued assault on her. By attacking her they just make the public believe that Palin is more substantial than she perhaps is.

AzWm

[uwaztec]

Feb 8, 2010 21:05:56 GMT -8 AztecWilliam said:

The notes on the hand is simply a non-issue. Certainly not in the same category as Obama's not knowing how to pronounce "corpsman" or Biden's statement that FDR was President in 1929 and spoke then to the country on TV.

However, I am certainly not one who is super excited by Sarah. I like her and think she is a good person, but I am not convinced that she has an adequate grasp of the major issues of the day. Her best bet would be to continue pursuing a career as a speaker and TV personality, much as Roger Hedgecock has done in San Diego.

I would love to see someone such as John McCain, Mike Huckabee, or Mitt Romney in the Oval Office in 2013. Sarah Palin would not be any worse than Obama, when you come right down to it. I would trust her judgment any day over Obama's. Lots of people, especially those on the Left, put too much emphasis on verbal agility and advanced degrees from prestigious eastern universities. Unfortunately, those qualities do not necessarily guarantee that one will make good decisions. If Palin were the president, I feel certain she would not have engineered an obviously bogus deal to circumvent the law (i.e., the bankruptcy of GM and Chrysler). Nor would she have signed off on the obscene "stimulus" bill that has been an obvious failure. And, just perhaps, she would have actually made clear in some detail to the Congress what she would and would support in the way of health care legislation instead of defaulting to two Congressional obscenities such as Pelosi and Reid.

Sarah Palin will not, and in my view should not, become President of the United States. Perhaps the Democrats and their allies will realize someday soon that they are only building up her reputation with many Americans by their continued assault on her. By attacking her they just make the public believe that Palin is more substantial than she perhaps is.

AzWm

I just think its hilarious that she is taken seriously. If you are giving a speech attacking a guy for using a teleprompter, why on Earth would you have notes scribbled on your hand that today's high def. technology is able to zoom in on and actually read??? William, you are an educated guy I know and have probably given lots of speeches in public. I myself have been paid to give presentations many times. How many times have you written notes on your hand in your adult life? In other words, if you are going to attack someone for their spoken delivery and methodology, you should at least try to appear professional....talk about a "freebie" for the comedy shows.

[aztecwin]

The Republicans most surely will find a candidate more ready to serve than Palin. I will say that on her worst day,however, she seems to have a better grasp on what is going on than Obama does. Crib notes vs dependency on a TelePrompter and even then not knowing the way to pronounce or the meaning of everyday vocabulary? I am afraid that policy or ideology aside, Palin is the thinking neutral man's choice.

A group of small businessmen in Minn. are starting to express their missing G.W. Bush.

[AztecWilliam]

Feb 8, 2010 21:33:32 GMT -8 uwaztec said:

Feb 8, 2010 21:05:56 GMT -8 AztecWilliam said:

The notes on the hand is simply a non-issue. Certainly not in the same category as Obama's not knowing how to pronounce "corpsman" or Biden's statement that FDR was President in 1929 and spoke then to the country on TV.

However, I am certainly not one who is super excited by Sarah. I like her and think she is a good person, but I am not convinced that she has an adequate grasp of the major issues of the day. Her best bet would be to continue pursuing a career as a speaker and TV personality, much as Roger Hedgecock has done in San Diego.

I would love to see someone such as John McCain, Mike Huckabee, or Mitt Romney in the Oval Office in 2013. Sarah Palin would not be any worse than Obama, when you come right down to it. I would trust her judgment any day over Obama's. Lots of people, especially those on the Left, put too much emphasis on verbal agility and advanced degrees from prestigious eastern universities. Unfortunately, those qualities do not necessarily guarantee that one will make good decisions. If Palin were the president, I feel certain she would not have engineered an obviously bogus deal to circumvent the law (i.e., the bankruptcy of GM and Chrysler). Nor would she have signed off on the obscene "stimulus" bill that has been an obvious failure. And, just perhaps, she would have actually made clear in some detail to the Congress what she would and would support in the way of health care legislation instead of defaulting to two Congressional obscenities such as Pelosi and Reid.

Sarah Palin will not, and in my view should not, become President of the United States. Perhaps the Democrats and their allies will realize someday soon that they are only building up her reputation with many Americans by their continued assault on her. By attacking her they just make the public believe that Palin is more substantial than she perhaps is.

AzWm

I just think its hilarious that she is taken seriously. If you are giving a speech attacking a guy for using a teleprompter, why on Earth would you have notes scribbled on your hand that today's high def. technology is able to zoom in on and actually read??? William, you are an educated guy I know and have probably given lots of speeches in public. I myself have been paid to give presentations many times. How many times have you written notes on your hand in your adult life? In other words, if you are going to attack someone for their spoken delivery and methodology, you should at least try to appear professional....talk about a "freebie" for the comedy shows.

As I said, I am not a big supporter of Palin's in terms of running for President. She has not struck me, so far, as someone who develops a lot of original ideas.

Obama's inability to pronounce the word corpsman correctly strikes me as more substantive than the writing on Sarah's hand. It makes me wonder just how much he has bothered to learn about the military. After all, he is the COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE U.S. ARMED FORCES ! ! !

Both issues are, of course, far less important than the federal budget, health care, the economy, etc.

AzWm

[uwaztec]

Feb 9, 2010 14:41:48 GMT -8 AztecWilliam said:

Feb 8, 2010 21:33:32 GMT -8 uwaztec said:

I just think its hilarious that she is taken seriously. If you are giving a speech attacking a guy for using a teleprompter, why on Earth would you have notes scribbled on your hand that today's high def. technology is able to zoom in on and actually read??? William, you are an educated guy I know and have probably given lots of speeches in public. I myself have been paid to give presentations many times. How many times have you written notes on your hand in your adult life? In other words, if you are going to attack someone for their spoken delivery and methodology, you should at least try to appear professional....talk about a "freebie" for the comedy shows.

As I said, I am not a big supporter of Palin's in terms of running for President. She has not struck me, so far, as someone who develops a lot of original ideas.

Obama's inability to pronounce the word corpsman correctly strikes me as more substantive than the writing on Sarah's hand. It makes me wonder just how much he has bothered to learn about the military. After all, he is the COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE U.S. ARMED FORCES ! ! !

Both issues are, of course, far less important than the federal budget, health care, the economy, etc.

AzWm

I hear you William. It's just that its easy to pound on somebody continuously on a job thats almost no win. I mean even formerly "untouchable" Toyota is having a rough go these days. I know the opposition was merciless with Bush...and I guess its payback for Obama. But the discussion does get pretty boring after a while with the cut and paste and predictable postings. I would really rather talk sports these days... but I couldn't resist with Palin.

[ptsdthor]

Since when has the losing VP candidate caused so much reaction by the opposition? Ferraro? Kemp? Quayle? Edwards?

While Palin is not exactly the Democrat's worst nightmare, she is close enough to cause significant fear and trepidation....so much so that the Democrats attack her at every turn. And clearly they don't think her a "has been" or irrelevant .. she would be ignored otherwise (See Hillary Clinton for an example).

Could you imagine someone of her fair sex, obvious attractiveness (at least as good looking as a flight attendant so says Letterman) and conservative policies with a little more eastern establishment savvy? That is the persona that the Dems never want her to become. And to her credit, she would never advance toward that end fighting perpetual ethics charges from Democrat loyalists in Podunk, Alaska.

I think she should continue to do what she is doing - say the obvious things that need to be said against this ridiculous administration, offer the stark contrast of the alternative conservative policies, run for Pres in 2012, lose that nomination, thus allowing some other GOP candidate to obtain the GOP candidacy without the equivalent scrutiny and loathing by the media (like Hillary did for Obama) and in 4+ years, take back the Alaska senate seat lost to the fraud perpetrated by prosecutorial misconduct against Senator Stevens and let her have her own "Mrs. Smith goes to Washington" experience.

In the Senate, the US would get a chance to see her up against the the competition in close order combat. And if Harry Reid and Babs Boxer are representative of the competition, the juxtaposition would be devastating.

If she does that, then we will see how much someone prays that she runs in 2016 (in the event Obama is two termer).

It is funny, however, that notes on a hand are somehow worse than not knowing how to pronounce "corpsman"? Talk of ignorance Perhaps Obama should write "káwrmən" on his palm the next time he is talking to or about medics in the armed services?

[ptsdthor]

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/15/AR2010021502856.html

The lady doth protest too much....

Another example of a lefty apologist attacking Sarah, devoid of substantive issues, all in the hopes that they can stop her connection with the average Joe and, worse for them yet, the average Joan.

Hey Ricky....the only thing worse than being hated is being ignored and I see that you and your party can't yet bring yourselves to ignore her.

Wishing for something doesn't necessarily make it come true.

[William the Aztec]

Feb 8, 2010 19:16:44 GMT -8 uwaztec said:

Hey guys, I assume you don't want Obama to get a second term...right? Then tell me something, why is Sarah Palin taken seriously and idolized by the Right, tea party, FOX (o.k. I know why here$$). Did you hear her speech to the tea party? "Hopey Changy", crib notes written on her hand...who does that except an eighth grader? If I was the opposition ( I am a moderate) I would be praying that she runs.

Who else writes on the palm of the hand? Well, turns out that Diane Feinstein did just that in a TV debate in the 90s. A shot of Feinstein's hand was shown on Fox yesterday (or the day before).

As I said, the writing on the hand is a non-issue. For the Democrats, they should be worried about the writing on the wall!

AzWm

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[uwaztec]

I believe the latest poll shows 71% of Americans feel she is not qualified to be President.... be careful what you wish for. I think the Democrats (and talk shows, gossip magazines etc.) hope she represents the Republicans. As many on here have noted, the Right is gaining strength and stands a good chance in 2012. If its Palin, perhaps her first infomercial can be with a backdrop of a guy putting chickens in a head cutter / bleeder, rather than turkeys this time....that would be really brilliant!

[ptsdthor]

I would surmise that Sarah's detractors might know a bit more about French Poetry and the Renaissance than she does, but as it is said....there is nobody so irritating as somebody with less intelligence and more sense than we have.

Like her or not, she was both astute and correct to call out the eventuality of Death Panels that would come with Obamacare, no matter how they tried to word their procedure review boards and her snowball thrown back at the earlier part of the health care debate helped lead in part to the avalanche that was Massachusetts. The left, for that and for her other correct positions (like energy policy) will never, ever give her any acknowledgment, lest they lose one or two women voters.

And while it is sad but true, Late Night comics, more than almost anything (save for the state of the economy), influence the election for those in the middle who can put down their bong or bottle just long enough to vote. Sarah will never get an even break from them, so she will likely never win a general election.

As I said in a earlier post, I hope she runs in '12 to take all the arrows, etc, from the media during the primaries, leaving another GOP candidate relatively unscathed for the general.