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Post by aztecwin on Oct 31, 2010 6:46:58 GMT -8
Probably, but he sure does not act like it. xrl.us/obummerThis is about leaving "endowed by our Creator" out of his quote from the Declaration of Independence. It is pretty interesting but the comments are really damning of Obama and his gaff. Was that gaff intentional or not? You can decide.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 31, 2010 7:09:17 GMT -8
I think Obama is either an atheist or an agnostic, but he goes through the motions of claiming to be a Christian because an atheist or an agnostic would have serious trouble getting elected to major offices in the U.S. (including to the U.S. Senate).
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Nov 1, 2010 7:41:22 GMT -8
Give it a break. You guys don't like the President so he's not a Christian? He doesn't "act like a Christian"? How are Christians suppose to act? Like you? With the venom you guys spout you don't act too Christian like either.
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Post by aztecwin on Nov 1, 2010 11:29:15 GMT -8
Give it a break. You guys don't like the President so he's not a Christian? He doesn't "act like a Christian"? How are Christians suppose to act? Like you? With the venom you guys spout you don't act too Christian like either. I suggest you talk about the issue under discussion and find out who says what.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 1, 2010 19:07:11 GMT -8
Give it a break. You guys don't like the President so he's not a Christian? I don't care whether he's a Christian or not. What I care about is that he has put through legislation that I believe will bankrupt the country and cause HUGE problems in the health care field. I don't like the idea of rationing health care, but that's where we'll end up in about 20 or 30 years thanks to Obamacare. It's happened everywhere else where they have government health care. That's why Canadians in the most dire need come to the U.S. to get health care. I just find his faking of Christian beliefs to be politically interesting (I'm sure he's not the first).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2010 9:33:05 GMT -8
Probably, but he sure does not act like it. xrl.us/obummerThis is about leaving "endowed by our Creator" out of his quote from the Declaration of Independence. It is pretty interesting but the comments are really damning of Obama and his gaff. Was that gaff intentional or not? You can decide. Washington wasn;t nor Lincoln nor Jefferson ,so who cares.
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Post by tuff on Nov 3, 2010 12:36:19 GMT -8
Don't care what he is. He just fu**ing sucks. Hope he stays in India.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2010 18:09:52 GMT -8
Give it a break. You guys don't like the President so he's not a Christian? I don't care whether he's a Christian or not. What I care about is that he has put through legislation that I believe will bankrupt the country and cause HUGE problems in the health care field. I don't like the idea of rationing health care, but that's where we'll end up in about 20 or 30 years thanks to Obamacare. It's happened everywhere else where they have government health care. That's why Canadians in the most dire need come to the U.S. to get health care. I just find his faking of Christian beliefs to be politically interesting (I'm sure he's not the first). And if you have no insurance here or are under insured what great kind of care do you get? You see there is the rub,what would a good Christian do pray tell? I have a lot of relatives in Canada and they love their program as do all my Brit relatives. There are all kinds of private hospitals and many Brits have inexpensive supplementary insurance. About 100 pounds a month. Of course you guys would know better having watched TV, and not lived, or gone or had relatives there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2010 18:12:55 GMT -8
Give it a break. You guys don't like the President so he's not a Christian? I don't care whether he's a Christian or not. What I care about is that he has put through legislation that I believe will bankrupt the country and cause HUGE problems in the health care field. I don't like the idea of rationing health care, but that's where we'll end up in about 20 or 30 years thanks to Obamacare. It's happened everywhere else where they have government health care. That's why Canadians in the most dire need come to the U.S. to get health care. I just find his faking of Christian beliefs to be politically interesting (I'm sure he's not the first). he did not start the war in Iraq or bail out the banks , his health care is a drop in te bucket compared to that. whats your plan for the poor and health care euthanasia?
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 3, 2010 19:26:01 GMT -8
I don't care whether he's a Christian or not. What I care about is that he has put through legislation that I believe will bankrupt the country and cause HUGE problems in the health care field. I don't like the idea of rationing health care, but that's where we'll end up in about 20 or 30 years thanks to Obamacare. It's happened everywhere else where they have government health care. That's why Canadians in the most dire need come to the U.S. to get health care. I just find his faking of Christian beliefs to be politically interesting (I'm sure he's not the first). he did not start the war in Iraq or bail out the banks , his health care is a drop in the bucket compared to that. True, his health care will be a drop in the bucket compared to that. At first. It will, like all government giveaway programs, grow exponentially until it becomes 20 times larger than anyone supporting it ever believed it could be. It happens every time. At that point it will choke off a good part of the economy as taxes will have to be raised to an extent that will stunt economic growth to pay for all the waste and middle management that government is best known for. Education and promoting a change of attitude among the poor. Too many poor people don't value education as much as is needed to get ALL of their kids through high school and a much larger percentage through college. Better jobs = health care provided by employers. Give away health care and there is less incentive for people to do what is necessary to elevate their status. Nothing comes for free. Obama knew that, but didn't care. Wait a minute? Weren't we supposed to be talking about whether or not Obama is a Christian? (And I still say he's athiest or agnostic...)
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 3, 2010 22:15:37 GMT -8
Probably, but he sure does not act like it. xrl.us/obummerThis is about leaving "endowed by our Creator" out of his quote from the Declaration of Independence. It is pretty interesting but the comments are really damning of Obama and his gaff. Was that gaff intentional or not? You can decide. Washington wasn;t nor Lincoln nor Jefferson ,so who cares. Wrong, at least about Lincoln. No one can say that he definately wasn't. On the contrary, he most likely was.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Nov 4, 2010 7:22:46 GMT -8
he did not start the war in Iraq or bail out the banks , his health care is a drop in the bucket compared to that. True, his health care will be a drop in the bucket compared to that. At first. It will, like all government giveaway programs, grow exponentially until it becomes 20 times larger than anyone supporting it ever believed it could be. It happens every time. At that point it will choke off a good part of the economy as taxes will have to be raised to an extent that will stunt economic growth to pay for all the waste and middle management that government is best known for. Education and promoting a change of attitude among the poor. Too many poor people don't value education as much as is needed to get ALL of their kids through high school and a much larger percentage through college. Better jobs = health care provided by employers. Give away health care and there is less incentive for people to do what is necessary to elevate their status. Nothing comes for free. Obama knew that, but didn't care. Wait a minute? Weren't we supposed to be talking about whether or not Obama is a Christian? (And I still say he's athiest or agnostic...) Let them eat cake?
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Nov 4, 2010 7:24:23 GMT -8
I think Obama is either an atheist or an agnostic, but he goes through the motions of claiming to be a Christian because an atheist or an agnostic would have serious trouble getting elected to major offices in the U.S. (including to the U.S. Senate). Most thinking men are Agnostic or Atheist. The old Gods are falling by the wayside.
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