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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Oct 16, 2015 6:41:59 GMT -8
Got the bug part right!  |
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Post by mnico213 on Oct 16, 2015 7:01:27 GMT -8
With the new allegations against UCLA, and the distance TJ's parents and friends would have to travel to watch him play a home game at Oregon, I'm feeling excited and optimistic about our chances. I hope Kawai is in town to help us cement the deal with TJ  SPELL THE MAN'S NAME CORRECTLY!!!! hard to believe how many "fans" cant spell arguably the best player ever to come out of the program! I'll be pretty impressed by the first person to misspell T.J. |
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Oct 16, 2015 7:12:11 GMT -8
There aren't any serious allegations. There is one guy upset about being fired. You are trying to stress semantics, which I have no problem with any wording. Replace allegations with investigation in my post and my message still stands. Nobody is looking into the allegations. There's no evidence of wrongdoing by coaches despite the academic coordinator's claims otherwise. What is clear is that the buffer between coaches and instructors was maintained, and that, ironically, it's the faculty who dropped the ball on maintaining academic integrity in college athletics. What? An academic advisor saying a coach pressured him to change a grade is serious. Kids not attending class but getting credit is serious. They after all are still student-athletes. As far as proof, how do you know what proof the advisor has? HaRd to imagine he would open himself up to a defamation claim if he couldn't back it up |
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Post by thepapacy on Oct 16, 2015 7:40:28 GMT -8
We don't get many of his kind around these parts! Welcome mrbug! The fact that you are here at all to scope a Leaf thread says enough all by itself. The allegations? Sorry, there's more smoke in Brentwood right now than there is with our Parrish pre-pre-investigation. |
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Post by giju on Oct 16, 2015 8:05:22 GMT -8
UCLA is overrated...the most prestigious basketball program that is "scared" of playing us....
In terms of Leaf, he has chance to be the "man" on our team surrounded by quality players...
Or he can go to Oregon or UCLA and just be one of the guys.....the school name is not what gets drafted...it's the name on the back and talent that gets you drafted...if Leaf and his dad understand that, he will play at SDSU and lead his hometown team in front of sellout crowds
Last time I checked both Oregon and UCLA cannot sell out their arena on a nightly basis like we do
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Post by dlangford9 on Oct 16, 2015 8:09:01 GMT -8
SPELL THE MAN'S NAME CORRECTLY!!!! hard to believe how many "fans" cant spell arguably the best player ever to come out of the program! I'll be pretty impressed by the first person to misspell T.J. It's not hard to spell TqJ!!! BTW, that's a silent "q" if you're wondering. |
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Post by standiego on Oct 16, 2015 8:13:37 GMT -8
Does not matter if the "situations " being looked at are serious or whatever . That means until a school is cleared - the school maybe be seen as less then clean as other schools will tell recruits, regular fans or recruits/families . Also there is no way of determining if and when and what penalties will be handed down . If Leaf is considering a 1 and done college stay , could affect his college decision. Penalty could be not being able to play in tournaments or MM .
So it would make a lot of sense for Leaf to delay signing a binding NLI until absolutely needed . He has leverage now , why lose it ? If a school says they will not hold scholarship for him then it could be picks the other schools he is thinking of . Not sure if any the schools have a better option at the current time .
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Post by jpaztec on Oct 16, 2015 8:14:13 GMT -8
Anyone heard who TJ's player host(s) are for the weekend?
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Post by standiego on Oct 16, 2015 8:26:38 GMT -8
Would guess local Kell would be one of them . He also used to communicate with AQ .
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Post by mrbug708 on Oct 16, 2015 9:24:11 GMT -8
There aren't any serious allegations. There is one guy upset about being fired. You are trying to stress semantics, which I have no problem with any wording. Replace allegations with investigation in my post and my message still stands. Nobody is looking into the allegations. There's no evidence of wrongdoing by coaches despite the academic coordinator's claims otherwise. What is clear is that the buffer between coaches and instructors was maintained, and that, ironically, it's the faculty who dropped the ball on maintaining academic integrity in college athletics. What? An academic advisor saying a coach pressured him to change a grade is serious. Kids not attending class but getting credit is serious. They after all are still student-athletes. As far as proof, how do you know what proof the advisor has? HaRd to imagine he would open himself up to a defamation claim if he couldn't back it up What defamation suit could possibly be filed? Sure it's sketchy to ask the advisor to get a grade change but they don't have power to change the grade. It's illegal for coaches to talk to professors to influence grade changes, but asking the advisors to speak with the professors isn't illegal. That's essentially why they work, intermediaries to avoid rule violations. The professors have the power to change the grades alone. That's why Kyle Flood is in hot water at Rutgers, for contacting professors And I'm guessing you didn't go to college. 3/4s of my classes never took attendance. You can show up when you wanted to. It's not high school with mandatory attendance for funding purposes. As for proof, I'd imagine he has some form of it, but since he didn't mention any of it in that article, I'm not exactly worried about these "allegations" |
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Post by mnico213 on Oct 16, 2015 10:29:32 GMT -8
Since you went to college and all, shouldn't proof be the word in quotations, not allegations? Pretty sure these really are allegations.
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Post by sdsudevil on Oct 16, 2015 10:33:32 GMT -8
What? An academic advisor saying a coach pressured him to change a grade is serious. Kids not attending class but getting credit is serious. They after all are still student-athletes. As far as proof, how do you know what proof the advisor has? HaRd to imagine he would open himself up to a defamation claim if he couldn't back it up What defamation suit could possibly be filed? Sure it's sketchy to ask the advisor to get a grade change but they don't have power to change the grade. It's illegal for coaches to talk to professors to influence grade changes, but asking the advisors to speak with the professors isn't illegal. That's essentially why they work, intermediaries to avoid rule violations. The professors have the power to change the grades alone. That's why Kyle Flood is in hot water at Rutgers, for contacting professors And I'm guessing you didn't go to college. 3/4s of my classes never took attendance. You can show up when you wanted to. It's not high school with mandatory attendance for funding purposes. As for proof, I'd imagine he has some form of it, but since he didn't mention any of it in that article, I'm not exactly worried about these "allegations"Well, you shouldn't be, NCAA is a joke. But allegations are allegations, see how it is happening with SDSU. Allegations abound. It may (or may not) affect the final decision of a recruit. FWIW, the advisor was not fired. He got a good letter of rec, after informing them he was leaving. |
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Post by Frantic on Oct 16, 2015 10:41:32 GMT -8
This thread has deteriorated.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 10:50:28 GMT -8
This thread has deteriorated. So what's new? That's pretty standard form here on AM! =) |
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Post by thepapacy on Oct 16, 2015 10:54:41 GMT -8
This thread has deteriorated. So what's new? That's pretty standard form here on AM! =) Yea but it deteriorated because a ucla fan found it! That means what they say is true - there actually ARE still ucla basketball fans. |
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Post by Pasadenaztec on Oct 16, 2015 11:17:59 GMT -8
My piano is made by Kawhi. Oldie Out I drive a Kawhi-saki motorcycle. |
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Post by MarshallU on Oct 16, 2015 11:29:08 GMT -8
My piano is made by Kawhi. Oldie Out I drive a Kawhi-saki motorcycle. I went to Kawai on vacation this past summer. |
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Oct 16, 2015 12:41:08 GMT -8
What? An academic advisor saying a coach pressured him to change a grade is serious. Kids not attending class but getting credit is serious. They after all are still student-athletes. As far as proof, how do you know what proof the advisor has? HaRd to imagine he would open himself up to a defamation claim if he couldn't back it up What defamation suit could possibly be filed? Sure it's sketchy to ask the advisor to get a grade change but they don't have power to change the grade. It's illegal for coaches to talk to professors to influence grade changes, but asking the advisors to speak with the professors isn't illegal. That's essentially why they work, intermediaries to avoid rule violations. The professors have the power to change the grades alone. That's why Kyle Flood is in hot water at Rutgers, for contacting professors And I'm guessing you didn't go to college. 3/4s of my classes never took attendance. You can show up when you wanted to. It's not high school with mandatory attendance for funding purposes. As for proof, I'd imagine he has some form of it, but since he didn't mention any of it in that article, I'm not exactly worried about these "allegations" First, it is not illegal for a coach to contact a prof regarding a grade change. It may be against school policy and NCAA policy, but it is not illegal. Second, former UCLA adviser Will Collier specifically mentions Duane Broussard by name and accuses him actions that have tarnished his reputation, place his current employment at risk and could negatively effect his prospects for future employment. I could now list the elements of defamation claim so that you could see the basis for Broussard's claim, but you went to college so I am sure that you know them already. Further, a lot of classes in college require attendance. Have you ever tried to pass a chemistry lab class with out attending the lab? Or how about classes that require in-class participation such as communications or speech. It is up to the teacher and their policy and it varies from class to class. I mentioned attendance because that is exactly what Collier mentions in his allegations. Here is the excerpt from the Washington Post 10/13/15 detailing the situation: "A report in the Chronicle of Higher Education details how the UCLA men’s basketball program kept some of its players academically eligible despite missed classes, instances of plagiarism and grade changes that appeared to violate school policy. The accusations were brought by Will Collier, the basketball team’s academic coordinator until January, when he left for another job. Based on emails and documents provided by Collier and interviews with the former academic coordinator, the Chronicle’s Brad Wolverton portrays a program that went to great lengths to make sure its players stayed on the court." |
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Post by Old School on Oct 16, 2015 13:01:55 GMT -8
My piano is made by Kawhi. Oldie Out .JPG) Oldie Out |
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Post by Pasadenaztec on Oct 16, 2015 13:48:14 GMT -8
My piano is made by Kawhi. Oldie Out Oldie Out Please be Kawhi-it with your piano playing!! |
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