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Post by fisherville on Aug 13, 2015 13:01:12 GMT -8
max is a 2 or 3 period, that's like saying leaf could play power forward, lol We are in deep dookie if Max is our 4 and Nolan is our 5. Both would be playing out of position. Max is as much a 4 as he is a 3
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Post by standiego on Aug 13, 2015 13:15:14 GMT -8
Would hope that with the PT available , we can line up some visits and more important some quality signings at PF/C for the Aztecs in 2016 ,
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Post by fisherville on Aug 13, 2015 13:19:19 GMT -8
Would hope that with the PT available , we can line up some visits and more important some quality signings at PF/C for the Aztecs in 2016 , Jalen is expected to visit sometime this month
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Post by standiego on Aug 13, 2015 13:33:45 GMT -8
would be great if the coaches can get him booked for the visit . We need PF/C and there is PT .
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Post by Gundo on Aug 13, 2015 23:51:57 GMT -8
This year over 750 players applied to transfer, there will be another 750 guys next year and at least 20 guys that we could consider. It's a numbers game. We will get one or two, count on it.
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Post by standiego on Aug 14, 2015 8:20:22 GMT -8
the problem is "regular transfers will have to sit a year , say 2016 , then be able to play in 2017 . We are going to need PF/C in 2016 . Unless we get grad transfers -if they still allow them to transfer with out sitting a year - there has been talk they might try to adjust the transfer rules .that is why getting quality HS 2016 PF/ C 's is important . Another reason why BJ 's decision was a ding or the timing . Could we have tried to get J. Williams transfer or others had we known , or made a PF/C a priority .
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Post by aztecanthony on Aug 14, 2015 8:39:15 GMT -8
the problem is "regular transfers will have to sit a year , say 2016 , then be able to play in 2017 . We are going to need PF/C in 2016 . Unless we get grad transfers -if they still allow them to transfer with out sitting a year - there has been talk they might try to adjust the transfer rules .that is why getting quality HS 2016 PF/ C 's is important . Another reason why BJ 's decision was a ding or the timing . Could we have tried to get J. Williams transfer or others had we known , or made a PF/C a priority . I believe we will get a couple quality big guys for 2016, who want to play in front of a enthusiastic sold out crowd, go to the tourney, live in Americas finest city, learn defense.
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Post by ignoranus on Aug 14, 2015 10:19:21 GMT -8
Whether senior transfers or HS recruits I am sure that the coaches will find some guys that want to play.
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Post by standiego on Aug 14, 2015 11:20:04 GMT -8
Recruiting is getting even more difficult , especially in the PAC where both the upper level and now even the middle level teams have really stepped it up . Zags have also gotten into the mix for some of the recruits we go after . So do not think it will be as easy as some may think if we are trying to land quality recruits . Goal needs to be SW16 team or better .
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Post by aztecanthony on Aug 14, 2015 12:00:44 GMT -8
Recruiting is getting even more difficult , especially in the PAC where both the upper level and now even the middle level teams have really stepped it up . Zags have also gotten into the mix for some of the recruits we go after . So do not think it will be as easy as some may think if we are trying to land quality recruits . Goal needs to be SW16 team or better . It's too bad that so many young high school players are still falling into the ALUREMENT of a top 5 conference and TV exposure. What they overlook is the importance of playing unselfishly, defense, chemistry which wins games and brings more exposure than a middle of the road PAC school.
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Post by standiego on Aug 14, 2015 12:25:42 GMT -8
Unfortunately the PAC has gotten more schools into MM , they have won more games and advance further in MM . They also get more guys into the NBA .
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 14, 2015 14:06:25 GMT -8
Recruiting is getting even more difficult , especially in the PAC where both the upper level and now even the middle level teams have really stepped it up . Zags have also gotten into the mix for some of the recruits we go after . So do not think it will be as easy as some may think if we are trying to land quality recruits . Goal needs to be SW16 team or better . It's too bad that so many young high school players are still falling into the ALUREMENT of a top 5 conference and TV exposure. What they overlook is the importance of playing unselfishly, defense, chemistry which wins games and brings more exposure than a middle of the road PAC school. I think it's less about the exposure & more about the money. Most P12 programs initially invested their new TV monies in football; now several, including the OSU's of the world, are investing heavily in hoops. It used to be just those committed to hoops - Arizona, UCLA, Stanford - that thrived. Knight University threw a ton of money at their program & raised their profile into the high level status, so their addition was inevitable.
Now there are more good programs in the P12 today than MW, which wasn't necessarily the case in 2010-2012. Some old perennial powers are even getting passed up (e.g. Stanford). Utah & OSU added new practice facilities; OSU used "family" to jumpstart their program as well; Colorado & ASU are now investing as well, or will be. Plus, it helps when a school like Cal - which has minimal history & mediocre facilities - gets a local kid like Rabb to jumpstart the program. Without him staying home they're a mediocre program.
In the end, kids want to play somewhere were the school a) gives a crap about the basketball program, and b) has a legitimate shot at being successful. We still meet that criteria, so don't see us going away. Like Zags. For a while many P12 programs didn't really give a crap about hoops. Now they are, and as a result there are more teams with a legit shot at making the dance. They're buying their way into the party.
That said, I think the MW will be greatly improved this year. We need UNLV to be good; SDSU needs to avoid down years. BSU can't lose their momentum. We need a 4th & 5th program to really step up. Whereas in the P12 you have UA, UCLA, Oregon, & Utah, plus special cases in Cal (Rabb home) & OSU (Thompson/Hinkle staying w/ dad) making them very enticing moving forward. When they're sending 6 teams & we're sending 2-3 it has an impact on recruiting.
Talent wants to play with Talent. As long as we have the Hemsley's, Zylan's & Norain's on the roster, a fan base that supports the team, great facilities & continuity on the coaching staff we'll continue to attract top level talent. Not worried. It's just a little tougher.
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Post by standiego on Aug 14, 2015 14:53:21 GMT -8
From top to bottom the PAC is better then the MW . Look at the results in MM . Look at the recruiting done by the PAC over the MW for 2015 . We need to do well in recruiting for 2016 as we lose a lot of the guys up front after this year, to keep the momentum going and be considered a true program . Agree the basics are there Narain , Zylan and JH. But we are going to need more , we have two recruits who play SG coming in for visits, but need a couple more PF/C 's . 2017 there are some very good local guys but unless we do well in MM , not sure how seriously they will consider us . Maybe spoiled but to me MM is the basic then maybe SW16 to be considered as a good year . It all starts with recruiting , then developing the talent. So half the battle for 2016 could be who we actually sign during early NLI .
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Post by fisherville on Aug 14, 2015 15:16:08 GMT -8
SDSU will be fine recruiting wise, we will get a couple more good bigs, we will have no issue getting high major level recruits. But to take that next step recruiting is going to be hard, and it isn't for any other reason other than the conference we are in. Consistently getting top 50 talent, and getting occasional top 25 guy is extremely hard for a school like SDSU unless you are in the pac 12, if we were in the pac 12 we would be getting talent like metu's, we would be in serious consideration for Hands, McCoy ect...
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Post by fisherville on Aug 14, 2015 15:19:37 GMT -8
That being said we can consistently get guys that are in back half of top 150 now and occasionally get top 75 type guys like narain. Recruiting isn't more difficult for SDSU than it was last year or year before, it just isn't easier even with maybe a bit of a profile bump. And yes pac-12 is recruiting a bit better, cal will probably recruit consistently better than they were before but won't have national top classes like they did this past year, UCLA/AZ is cream of crop recruiting in west.
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Post by aztech on Aug 14, 2015 17:14:19 GMT -8
SDSU will be fine recruiting wise, we will get a couple more good bigs, we will have no issue getting high major level recruits. But to take that next step recruiting is going to be hard, and it isn't for any other reason other than the conference we are in. Consistently getting top 50 talent, and getting occasional top 25 guy is extremely hard for a school like SDSU unless you are in the pac 12, if we were in the pac 12 we would be getting talent like metu's, we would be in serious consideration for Hands, McCoy ect... Like I've written in another thread, now that we have the JAM center it will make a huge difference for recruiting.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2015 1:06:34 GMT -8
SDSU will be fine recruiting wise, we will get a couple more good bigs, we will have no issue getting high major level recruits. But to take that next step recruiting is going to be hard, and it isn't for any other reason other than the conference we are in. Consistently getting top 50 talent, and getting occasional top 25 guy is extremely hard for a school like SDSU unless you are in the pac 12, if we were in the pac 12 we would be getting talent like metu's, we would be in serious consideration for Hands, McCoy ect... Like I've written in another thread, now that we have the JAM center it will make a huge difference for recruiting. I really do not think the Jam Center is going to make that much of a difference. Do you really think a 4 - 5 star kid will pick SDSU over UCLA/AZ because of the Jam Center lol!
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Post by aztecfanatic on Aug 15, 2015 3:16:57 GMT -8
Like I've written in another thread, now that we have the JAM center it will make a huge difference for recruiting. I really do not think the Jam Center is going to make that much of a difference. Do you really think a 4 - 5 star kid will pick SDSU over UCLA/AZ because of the Jam Center lol! The Jam Center, packed houses, 6 straight years participation in the Dance, a competent staff; these and many other reasons for high majors to consider us. Will they chose us over their other suitors? We will get our share. jmo
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Post by standiego on Aug 15, 2015 10:26:58 GMT -8
The JAM center is opening this month . Let's see what kind of recruits we can line up for visits . Plus more importantly sign in November - only 3 months away. There are very important needs at PF/C , loads of PT but as of today have Not heard of many guys coming in for visits that play PF/C for 2016 .
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Post by aztech on Aug 15, 2015 10:30:07 GMT -8
I really do not think the Jam Center is going to make that much of a difference. Do you really think a 4 - 5 star kid will pick SDSU over UCLA/AZ because of the Jam Center lol! The Jam Center, packed houses, 6 straight years participation in the Dance, a competent staff; these and many other reasons for high majors to consider us. Will they chose us over their other suitors? We will get our share. jmo Exactly. Yodo777 is just bitter because he won't be able to watch them practice in the ARC anymore.
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