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Post by alamobruin on Jul 21, 2015 18:45:44 GMT -8
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Post by Gundo on Jul 21, 2015 19:01:21 GMT -8
Just goes to show our TV deal is sh#tty and that SDSU carries the revenue for the NCAA MM. We should get bonus revenue for SDSU basketball, as BSU does for MWC Football.
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Post by Not San Diego Football Fan on Jul 21, 2015 19:02:22 GMT -8
The graph paints a perfect picture. Giants looking down on midgets.
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Post by HighNTight on Jul 21, 2015 19:05:52 GMT -8
"And as the above graph illustrates, the world of college sports is very clearly split between the haves and the have nots. The back half of our list – comprised of the American, Mountain West, Big East, C-USA and MAC – generated a combined $213 million last year. Consider that the Big 12, the lowest-earning Power Five conference, took home $253 million. And that wealth gap would be even wider if not for the College Football Playoff, which shared $80 million among the so-called Group of Five (AAC, MWC, C-USA, MAC and the Sun Belt Conference)."
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Post by aztecmouse on Jul 21, 2015 19:16:23 GMT -8
So why not merge? Why not take the best teams from the "have-nots" and try to make for a more entertaining 6th conference?
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Post by laaztec on Jul 21, 2015 19:36:56 GMT -8
So why not merge? Why not take the best teams from the "have-nots" and try to make for a more entertaining 6th conference? That will happen eventually. SDSU will be in a best of the best leftovers conference in the future
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Post by chris92065 on Jul 21, 2015 20:17:57 GMT -8
The graph is misleading.
Mwc should be tenth considering how unbalance the financials are.
Way to go sterk!!!!!!
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Post by chris92065 on Jul 21, 2015 20:18:33 GMT -8
This proves that any alternative would be better than the one we are currently In.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Jul 21, 2015 20:26:30 GMT -8
The graph is misleading. Mwc should be tenth considering how unbalance the financials are. Way to go sterk!!!!!! Enlighten us as to why AD Sterk is at fault for the Aztecs being in the MWC. He inherited that if you have any sense of history. Would you have preferred if he had stuck with the move to the Big East? We could be in that conference all by ourselves the way it worked out.
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Post by HighNTight on Jul 21, 2015 20:39:17 GMT -8
all this proves is that things are pretty much the same as they always were ...
One difference being that other than the Aztecs, the MWC has slid in NCAAT revenue.
The non-FBS Big East has a huge media deal that Fox Sports probably regrets.
AAC NCAAT revenue will decrease when the remainder of their BE credits run dry.
The chart is based on average revenue distributed per school, take it with a grain of salt.
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Post by junior on Jul 21, 2015 22:31:22 GMT -8
So why not merge? Why not take the best teams from the "have-nots" and try to make for a more entertaining 6th conference? That will happen eventually. SDSU will be in a best of the best leftovers conference in the future I think you will be correct - just how long this could actually take is another matter.
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Post by Gundo on Jul 21, 2015 23:01:33 GMT -8
We really belong in the PAC, but unfortunately that won't happen very soon if at all.
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Post by chris92065 on Jul 22, 2015 9:00:30 GMT -8
The graph is misleading. Mwc should be tenth considering how unbalance the financials are. Way to go sterk!!!!!! Enlighten us as to why AD Sterk is at fault for the Aztecs being in the MWC. He inherited that if you have any sense of history. Would you have preferred if he had stuck with the move to the Big East? We could be in that conference all by ourselves the way it worked out. I fault sterk for not having the huevos to start a new conference when he had the chance. And then he tried to sell this Garabge TV contract to us like we're dumb children. It's the worse TV contract in the history of sports. It can't be worse.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Jul 22, 2015 9:08:12 GMT -8
So the BigEast gets zero dollars from bowl games?
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 22, 2015 9:16:37 GMT -8
Enlighten us as to why AD Sterk is at fault for the Aztecs being in the MWC. He inherited that if you have any sense of history. Would you have preferred if he had stuck with the move to the Big East? We could be in that conference all by ourselves the way it worked out. I fault sterk for not having the huevos to start a new conference when he had the chance. And then he tried to sell this Garabge TV contract to us like we're dumb children. It's the worse TV contract in the history of sports. It can't be worse. LOL. Yes, it's on him to start his own conference. Makes perfect sense. (Unreal!)
The TV contract isn't on him either - if we came back the MW it was the only option. Nobody likes the TV contract (except maybe BSU & that's even doubtful), but what's he supposed to do - whine publicly? Yea, that's how an AD is supposed to act. Like AM bloggers... You make the best of your situation, stay positive, while looking at other options privately.
There is constantly talk about new conference alignment, whether taking some of the better G5s & creating something different or jumping to a P5. However, a barrier to the former is the latter. Some of the schools you'd want to partner with would jump for a P5 offer, so they're going to be hesitant to commit to a new conference.
But yea, put that on Sterk. Makes perfect sense (sarcasm).
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 22, 2015 9:17:47 GMT -8
So the BigEast gets zero dollars from bowl games? They don't have football programs (Butler, Creighton, etc.)
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Post by standiego on Jul 22, 2015 9:59:10 GMT -8
the name of the game is leverage . SDSU did try with BSU to make the move to the BE/ now AAC . But BSU bailed and was willing to leverage better TV deal with MW . Aztecs had choice ask BE if they could be full time member all sports for BE , were told no , so back to MW . If BSU had the guts to stay, could they with SDSU have helped the AAC become a better conference and gotten the AAC a much better TV deal ? IMO that was the opportunity for a G5 conference to put up the best offer to the TV networks , they have a strong commissioner and good TV cities . But BSU bailed , for the MW TV deal . Sterk had little choice . SDSU has very little if any leverage , so what can he do ? As you can see none of the G5 do, unless there is a network that has money to pay , G5 are stuck. Prepare the resume for SDSU and hope . B12 again has leverage If they chose to expand . As of 2015 , answer is NO .
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Post by Old School on Jul 22, 2015 9:59:24 GMT -8
Winning solves everything. The giants can fall to the little guys eventually. All you need is pressure and time (Shawshank Redemption).
Look at Qualcomm, they're losing to the little guys. Hear about the big layoffs?
For the MWC to succeed, they should stop being dreamers and be the giant killers. Stop wishing for success. I hope we can beat Penn State this season, that would be a statement win for the conference.
Oldie Out
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 22, 2015 10:49:54 GMT -8
Winning solves everything. The giants can fall to the little guys eventually. All you need is pressure and time (Shawshank Redemption). Look at Qualcomm, they're losing to the little guys. Hear about the big layoffs? For the MWC to succeed, they should stop being dreamers and be the giant killers. Stop wishing for success. I hope we can beat Penn State this season, that would be a statement win for the conference. Oldie Out Would be awesome but easier said than done. The gap between G5 & P5 is getting BIGGER, which in turn makes it harder for G5's to compete & pull off those upsets. Used to be G5's had facilities on par with the lower tier P5's, but given the extra $15MM+ per year they receive that's no longer the case. As a result, we're seeing fewer & fewer of the fringe elite talents going to B5 schools unless they're borderline when it comes to qualifying. Used to be BSU would pull talent away from the WSU's & OSU's; much less likely to be the case the last 2-3 years.
The gap is only going to grow over the next few years. It's not like the better G5 programs aren't trying to keep up. Including SDSU. It's just the reality of the situation. Bells/whistles are huge in recruiting these days. As a G5 you just maximize the revenues you do have at your disposal, maximize donations, spend wisely, maintain as much continuity wherever possible, hope for low roster turnover & injuries, and catch a few breaks here & there. BSU getting UW at home is a prime example - UW is going to be BAD early in the year, and playing in Boise gives them an edge. Catching them this year is luck. Playing at Cal and at PSU will require a lot of luck. If SDSU happened to play UW at home this year then I'd say winning was a much stronger possibility if not probability.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Jul 22, 2015 11:27:47 GMT -8
The graph is misleading. Mwc should be tenth considering how unbalance the financials are. Way to go sterk!!!!!! Enlighten us as to why AD Sterk is at fault for the Aztecs being in the MWC. Hey, that makes perfect sense! In Chris' world.
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