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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jul 1, 2015 18:39:18 GMT -8
Do you have any recent data or links to any recent data?
Particularly for football head to head in San Diego with the PAC 12.
Thanks.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jul 1, 2015 19:39:44 GMT -8
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Post by dlangford9 on Jul 2, 2015 11:12:44 GMT -8
Interesting. Two things: 1) SDSU games are usually on inferior channels, which severely limit the viewership. 2) When on the inferior channels, SDSU is middle of the pack (compared to ratings of other games on those channels)
Conclusion, SDSU NEEDS a breakout year to get peoples attention. When smaller college towns have a larger viewership, that means SDSU is not being relevant to SD, or the rest of the country. I know SDSU has been to several bowl games in a row, that just means we are no longer useless. If we can go 3-1 in non-conf, 6-2 or 7-1 in MWC and then win over BSU in the MWC Championship, that would be an eye opening. Especially if they go 11-2 and be the highest G of 5 team and go to the Fiesta Bowl. Viewership will go up, attendance will go up, recruiting will go up, being on Big 12 radar will go up. JUST WIN!!!
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Post by thepapacy on Jul 2, 2015 11:48:11 GMT -8
How bright our future will be has never, and will never, be more complicated than this.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Jul 2, 2015 12:46:51 GMT -8
Interesting. Two things: 1) SDSU games are usually on inferior channels, which severely limit the viewership. 2) When on the inferior channels, SDSU is middle of the pack (compared to ratings of other games on those channels) Conclusion, SDSU NEEDS a breakout year to get peoples attention. When smaller college towns have a larger viewership, that means SDSU is not being relevant to SD, or the rest of the country. I know SDSU has been to several bowl games in a row, that just means we are no longer useless. If we can go 3-1 in non-conf, 6-2 or 7-1 in MWC and then win over BSU in the MWC Championship, that would be an eye opening. Especially if they go 11-2 and be the highest G of 5 team and go to the Fiesta Bowl. Viewership will go up, attendance will go up, recruiting will go up, being on Big 12 radar will go up. JUST WIN!!! Just like our basketball team needed a breakout season. It happened and our program jumped to a new level of attendance, viewership and notoriety. It can happen for football. A 12-1 conference champion will get lots of love amd could jump start the program.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Jul 2, 2015 13:12:53 GMT -8
Interesting. Two things: 1) SDSU games are usually on inferior channels, which severely limit the viewership. 2) When on the inferior channels, SDSU is middle of the pack (compared to ratings of other games on those channels) Conclusion, SDSU NEEDS a breakout year to get peoples attention. When smaller college towns have a larger viewership, that means SDSU is not being relevant to SD, or the rest of the country. I know SDSU has been to several bowl games in a row, that just means we are no longer useless. If we can go 3-1 in non-conf, 6-2 or 7-1 in MWC and then win over BSU in the MWC Championship, that would be an eye opening. Especially if they go 11-2 and be the highest G of 5 team and go to the Fiesta Bowl. Viewership will go up, attendance will go up, recruiting will go up, being on Big 12 radar will go up. JUST WIN!!! Just like our basketball team needed a breakout season. It happened and our program jumped to a new level of attendance, viewership and notoriety. It can happen for football. A 12-1 conference champion will get lots of love amd could jump start the program. 12-1 conference champion eh? I wont hold my breath
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Post by standiego on Jul 2, 2015 13:33:47 GMT -8
As you mention, 1 go out and develop a Championship team on the field 2 go out and market the football team with players to the various shopping centers of San Diego . INCLUDE a schedule of the games and what TV Networks/ Channels to watch the games on - most average fans have no clue about CBS Sports Network- channel that televises some Aztec games. Provide channel numbers for them . This is a great time with the terrible PR going on now for both Padres and Chargers .
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Post by Boise Aztec on Jul 2, 2015 15:54:59 GMT -8
Just like our basketball team needed a breakout season. It happened and our program jumped to a new level of attendance, viewership and notoriety. It can happen for football. A 12-1 conference champion will get lots of love amd could jump start the program. 12-1 conference champion eh? I wont hold my breath Nor would I, but 34-3 was not what people thought would happen going into that season. Maybe not this year, maybe next year, but it is possible.
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 2, 2015 16:00:49 GMT -8
12-1 conference champion eh? I wont hold my breath Nor would I, but 34-3 was not what people thought would happen going into that season. Maybe not this year, maybe next year, but it is possible. And we were close to that last year. Other than at Oregon State, we could have easily won every game.
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Post by thepapacy on Jul 2, 2015 17:14:25 GMT -8
Nor would I, but 34-3 was not what people thought would happen going into that season. Maybe not this year, maybe next year, but it is possible. And we were close to that last year. Other than at Oregon State, we could have easily won every game. If we think we deserve a place at the big kids' table, we should be able to go 11-2 or 12-1 multiple times in the next 4-5 years. If we can't do that, P5 dreams are just that - dreams. If we can't do that, we really are living on a prayer and no amount of world class marketing could change that. Expect good things and good things can happen. Expect mediocrity, and mediocrity is what you get. Mediocrity has been keeping the wheels turning for decades... Change is now going to force our hand, and it's time to nut up or shut up. WIN THE GAMES WE SHOULD, and maybe, just maybe, like ONE we shouldn't?
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jul 2, 2015 19:14:01 GMT -8
Interesting. Two things: 1) SDSU games are usually on inferior channels, which severely limit the viewership. 2) When on the inferior channels, SDSU is middle of the pack (compared to ratings of other games on those channels) Conclusion, SDSU NEEDS a breakout year to get peoples attention. When smaller college towns have a larger viewership, that means SDSU is not being relevant to SD, or the rest of the country. I know SDSU has been to several bowl games in a row, that just means we are no longer useless. If we can go 3-1 in non-conf, 6-2 or 7-1 in MWC and then win over BSU in the MWC Championship, that would be an eye opening. Especially if they go 11-2 and be the highest G of 5 team and go to the Fiesta Bowl. Viewership will go up, attendance will go up, recruiting will go up, being on Big 12 radar will go up. JUST WIN!!! Would still like to see CBS Sports network TV ratings; only Dbaeur and Sterk can provide that data.
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Post by obboy13 on Jul 7, 2015 9:28:00 GMT -8
How bright our future will be has never, and will never, be more complicated than this. So true. Never forget that in general San Diego is a town of front runners, who all like a winner.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jul 7, 2015 9:30:20 GMT -8
How bright our future will be has never, and will never, be more complicated than this. So true. Never forget that in general San Diego is a town of front runners, who all like a winner. Can't argue with that.
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Post by dbauer on Jul 10, 2015 12:38:34 GMT -8
overall (unfortunately) the TV ratings would tend to support the "PAC 12 market" sentiment. SDSU does deliver much better than the overall college football/basketball averages though if we look at all nets, all teams. SDSU football delivers about a 1.5HH for the couple of games we might get on a network that we can track (CBSC is not measured by Nielsen locally); Hoops does slightly better. For comparison, USC football still does 2.0+ HH's (was 3's and 4's back in their hayday), UCLA/AZ/AZ ST all average about the same as SDSU (within 10% up or down depending on the match-up) and the PAC 12 Championship delivered a 4.9 HH (51k HH's watching). By comparison, the Mtn West Championship did a 1.3HH rtg, the SEC Championship prior that day on CBS was the lead-in and did a 5.14 and on ABC that same day FSU v GA Tech did a 4.5HH rtg. Lots of interest in college football here, not much in particular for Mtn West football outside SDSU. I will say though that its hard to really get a good consistent average for SDSU football simply due to the limited amount of games that are actually on nets that Nielsen measures. The math: every 1.0 HH rating is equal to 10,750 HH's here in SD.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 12:42:53 GMT -8
Lots of interest in college football here, not much in particular for Mtn West football outside SDSU. And here lies the problem. Both on the tube and in the stands. This conference is killing us.
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Post by tonatiuh on Jul 14, 2015 10:37:20 GMT -8
How bright our future will be has never, and will never, be more complicated than this. You're right, and it starts with beating the P5 teams on our schedule, California & Penn St. If, we can do that it definitely makes our season look good. Those who doubt that it will be accomplished, keep doubting because you will look so intelligent when it does happen.
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Post by rebar619 on Jul 14, 2015 13:16:24 GMT -8
Do you have any recent data or links to any recent data? Particularly for football head to head in San Diego with the PAC 12. Thanks. I am convinced now more than ever that SDSU will not sniff P5 association until we disassociate ourselves from the CSU system. The academic stigma and limitations will be a non starter to conferences. Just look at UCSD. That is the academic and economic force conferences look at. Success helps, but BSU and BYU are examples that is not enough. I hope I am wrong, but it seems there is a defined profile that universities must have. And no, it has nothing to do with being a city-state or directional school.
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Post by retiredaztec on Jul 14, 2015 13:42:58 GMT -8
And we were close to that last year. Other than at Oregon State, we could have easily won every game. If we think we deserve a place at the big kids' table, we should be able to go 11-2 or 12-1 multiple times in the next 4-5 years [/b]. If we can't do that, P5 dreams are just that - dreams. If we can't do that, we really are living on a prayer and no amount of world class marketing could change that. Expect good things and good things can happen. Expect mediocrity, and mediocrity is what you get. Mediocrity has been keeping the wheels turning for decades... Change is now going to force our hand, and it's time to nut up or shut up. WIN THE GAMES WE SHOULD, and maybe, just maybe, like ONE we shouldn't?[/quote] Looking back on the Aztec success in the '70's, including community support, the key was a successful season for a number of consecutive years in terms of wins verses losses. (And yet the best we could do in that decade was a trip to the Carnation Bowl).
If somehow this year's team backs into a 10-11-12-13 win season it will no doubt peak some interest. But, you're right, one season isn't nearly going to seal the deal.
I'll say it again. The fact that I have no use for Aztec football doesn't mean I have no interest. After 35 years, I still keep hoping someone with a true football mind, (not just a football brain), will come along and turn this sorry program right side up.
The fact is, if the time does come that a Charger departure is a done deal, in spite of all the assertions and assumptions, it will truly jolt the city. And it just may not be in the mood for small time Aztec football.
(I can still remember the night the Rockets move to Houston become a done deal, the last words a very angry San Diego sports reporter icon, Al Coupee, said was "we don't need some fly-by-night ABA team coming in to try and fill the gap". Take note Aztec fans).
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Post by myownwords on Jul 14, 2015 14:11:06 GMT -8
overall (unfortunately) the TV ratings would tend to support the "PAC 12 market" sentiment. SDSU does deliver much better than the overall college football/basketball averages though if we look at all nets, all teams. SDSU football delivers about a 1.5HH for the couple of games we might get on a network that we can track (CBSC is not measured by Nielsen locally); Hoops does slightly better. For comparison, USC football still does 2.0+ HH's (was 3's and 4's back in their hayday), UCLA/AZ/AZ ST all average about the same as SDSU (within 10% up or down depending on the match-up) and the PAC 12 Championship delivered a 4.9 HH (51k HH's watching). By comparison, the Mtn West Championship did a 1.3HH rtg, the SEC Championship prior that day on CBS was the lead-in and did a 5.14 and on ABC that same day FSU v GA Tech did a 4.5HH rtg. Lots of interest in college football here, not much in particular for Mtn West football outside SDSU. I will say though that its hard to really get a good consistent average for SDSU football simply due to the limited amount of games that are actually on nets that Nielsen measures. The math: every 1.0 HH rating is equal to 10,750 HH's here in SD. Very disappointing. I had assumed that we did much better in SD County. Seems that others felt the same way and even that this issue had been sorted and hashed numerous times as a major positive for SDSU. We now see that SDSU is viewed much less that we thought and seem to have a much higher mountain to climb. No pun intended. Unfortunately, the Big 12 has these numbers as well.
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Post by tonatiuh on Jul 14, 2015 15:31:02 GMT -8
scroll down.
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