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Post by momoney on Apr 2, 2015 19:40:03 GMT -8
I hope Fisher is burning up the phone lines for this transfer from Drexel to try and get this guy, he's someone who can come in right away and be our leading scorer next year. I think we'll be a real threat in the tournament if we can get him.
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Apr 2, 2015 21:14:39 GMT -8
I'm not sure you looked at any of his game stats...yes he was a prolific scorer averaging 21.8 points per game while shooting 43.8% from the floor and 36.9% from 3PT...He is also a VERY good FT shooter (something the Aztecs need in a big way).
However did you happen to notice a few other tidbits of information...he averaged 38.1 minutes a game...sometimes chucking up as many at 28 shots in one game (10 for 28 against Northeastern)
He was very effective against lower echelon opponents (Northestern, UNC-Wilmington, Elon) but was absolutely horrendous against mid/top-tier schools (Colorado / Penn St. / Arizona / UCLA / Cornell / Miami (FL)) sometimes with shooting percentages in the low 20% range.
Also Drexel doesn't appear to play much defense (259th in FG% allowed in the questionably competitive Colonial League)...
This is the classic case of a decent player...yet bad overall fit for our Aztec team
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Post by momoney on Apr 2, 2015 23:20:37 GMT -8
He would've been better than anything we had on offense this year. A lot of his teammates were hurt, so it made it easy for everybody to focus in on him on defense
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Post by Gundo on Apr 3, 2015 9:13:13 GMT -8
Drexel graduate transfer Damion Lee is one of the most heavily pursued players on the transfer wire.
From Scout today:
"...Drexel transfer Damion Lee, who averaged 21.4 points a game last season, may be the most heavily pursued recruit on the transfer list or in high school. “Basically everyone from far and wide [has called],” Lee said. “If you named a conference, they’ve called. It’s just so much to process.” Although Lee declined to give a list of interested parties, we know it’s lengthy, as he said “70 to 75” schools have reached out and he currently is filing through 160 unread text messages..."
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Post by standiego on Apr 3, 2015 11:46:19 GMT -8
Interesting comments from Coach Fisher . Best recruiters for most schools are their current players . Maryland players have been making a lot of contacts with Lee , to come join them . Also guys from St John's ...... Not sure what guys that play on the Aztecs have contacts in the East , other then Zabo , or coach Hutson has some with CIA Bounce .
Aztecs were able to get Davis , by talking with some other coaches who played against him . Also remember Davis was primarily a rebounder defender - an Aztecs strong point . Also the Aztec coaches then set up talks with his mother who was a strong influence . Family and Defense .
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Apr 3, 2015 12:02:07 GMT -8
Drexel graduate transfer Damion Lee is one of the most heavily pursued players on the transfer wire. From Scout today: "...Drexel transfer Damion Lee, who averaged 21.4 points a game last season, may be the most heavily pursued recruit on the transfer list or in high school. “Basically everyone from far and wide [has called],” Lee said. “If you named a conference, they’ve called. It’s just so much to process.” Although Lee declined to give a list of interested parties, we know it’s lengthy, as he said “70 to 75” schools have reached out and he currently is filing through 160 unread text messages..." Now there is some hyperbole for you... I can't imagine that Damien Lee is more sought after than SF Jaylen Brown, SG Malik Newman, PF Ivan Rabb , C Caleb Swanigan and/or C Stephen Zimmer (Nos #2, #4, #6, #8, and # 10 top high school recruits respectively who are still unsigned by any top program in America despite being pursued by the elite blue-bloods of the NCAA)...those players are McDonald All-Americans with a legitimate shot of being a NBA lottery pick... Lee is a good player who would definitely help most of the 300 or so teams that didn't make it to the NCAA tournament this year (or the past 6 years in the Aztecs case)...and he is by no means an NBA lottery pick. I don't exactly see where he'd play in Kentucky's or Duke's lineup... I also can't see him playing 38 minutes on an Aztec team that is teeming with players who could also average 21 points if they shot 18-28 times per game against lesser talent (think Big West...or in this case the Colonial League)...it's not to say that he couldn't help the Aztecs...but probably playing 12-15 minutes in a "B" team bench role (which more than likely wouldn't interest a player like Lee who is most likely looking to be a big fish star but in a bigger pond than Drexel provides) More than likely, Lee will definitely help some mid-level program in a high profile league (think Colorado / Cal / Purdue / Florida St. / Wake Forrest / Vandy / Marquette / Creighton / Auburn etc)... Once again...I'm in no way disparaging the player...I'm just asking if he's the right player for the Aztecs at this point...
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Post by momoney on Apr 3, 2015 12:48:37 GMT -8
Drexel graduate transfer Damion Lee is one of the most heavily pursued players on the transfer wire. From Scout today: "...Drexel transfer Damion Lee, who averaged 21.4 points a game last season, may be the most heavily pursued recruit on the transfer list or in high school. “Basically everyone from far and wide [has called],” Lee said. “If you named a conference, they’ve called. It’s just so much to process.” Although Lee declined to give a list of interested parties, we know it’s lengthy, as he said “70 to 75” schools have reached out and he currently is filing through 160 unread text messages..." Now there is some hyperbole for you... I can't imagine that Damien Lee is more sought after than SF Jaylen Brown, SG Malik Newman, PF Ivan Rabb , C Caleb Swanigan and/or C Stephen Zimmer (Nos #2, #4, #6, #8, and # 10 top high school recruits respectively who are still unsigned by any top program in America despite being pursued by the elite blue-bloods of the NCAA)...those players are McDonald All-Americans with a legitimate shot of being a NBA lottery pick... Lee is a good player who would definitely help most of the 300 or so teams that didn't make it to the NCAA tournament this year (or the past 6 years in the Aztecs case)...and he is by no means an NBA lottery pick. I don't exactly see where he'd play in Kentucky's or Duke's lineup... I also can't see him playing 38 minutes on an Aztec team that is teeming with players who could also average 21 points if they shot 18-28 times per game against lesser talent (think Big West...or in this case the Colonial League)...it's not to say that he couldn't help the Aztecs...but probably playing 12-15 minutes in a "B" team bench role (which more than likely wouldn't interest a player like Lee who is most likely looking to be a big fish star but in a bigger pond than Drexel provides) More than likely, Lee will definitely help some mid-level program in a high profile league (think Colorado / Cal / Purdue / Florida St. / Wake Forrest / Vandy / Marquette / Creighton / Auburn etc)... Once again...I'm in no way disparaging the player...I'm just asking if he's the right player for the Aztecs at this point... you act like the aztecs are a offensive juggernaut, Louisville is recruiting Lee and they went much further than us in the tournament. Anybody who averages 21 pts a game in college we can use. Quinn came from a mid level conference and he was our best offensive player this past season.
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Apr 3, 2015 13:19:50 GMT -8
Now there is some hyperbole for you... I can't imagine that Damien Lee is more sought after than SF Jaylen Brown, SG Malik Newman, PF Ivan Rabb , C Caleb Swanigan and/or C Stephen Zimmer (Nos #2, #4, #6, #8, and # 10 top high school recruits respectively who are still unsigned by any top program in America despite being pursued by the elite blue-bloods of the NCAA)...those players are McDonald All-Americans with a legitimate shot of being a NBA lottery pick... Lee is a good player who would definitely help most of the 300 or so teams that didn't make it to the NCAA tournament this year (or the past 6 years in the Aztecs case)...and he is by no means an NBA lottery pick. I don't exactly see where he'd play in Kentucky's or Duke's lineup... I also can't see him playing 38 minutes on an Aztec team that is teeming with players who could also average 21 points if they shot 18-28 times per game against lesser talent (think Big West...or in this case the Colonial League)...it's not to say that he couldn't help the Aztecs...but probably playing 12-15 minutes in a "B" team bench role (which more than likely wouldn't interest a player like Lee who is most likely looking to be a big fish star but in a bigger pond than Drexel provides) More than likely, Lee will definitely help some mid-level program in a high profile league (think Colorado / Cal / Purdue / Florida St. / Wake Forrest / Vandy / Marquette / Creighton / Auburn etc)... Once again...I'm in no way disparaging the player...I'm just asking if he's the right player for the Aztecs at this point... you act like the aztecs are a offensive juggernaut, Louisville is recruiting Lee and they went much further than us in the tournament. Anybody who averages 21 pts a game in college we can use. Quinn came from a mid level conference and he was our best offensive player this past season. In deference to AQ...he wasn't our best offensive player last year...he was 2nd or 3rd depending on which offensive stats you want to use...and remember AQ had 3 full years (including a RS season) with the Aztecs to learn the system. Lee might end up going to Louisville or another big-time school...but do you really think that his production will be 36+ min/game and 21.6 points playing for Louisville (or Kentucky / Duke / Arizona / Kansas / Carolina / or even SDSU) like he did last year playing for Dexel??...like I mentioned before it really depends on what the kid wants out of his senior season...a trip to the big show as a role-member of a blue-blood team or to star on a mid-level team who can give him the PT to shine like he did at Drexel.
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Post by Gundo on Apr 12, 2015 12:18:04 GMT -8
Just in from Scout, Lee's narrows his choices to 5 schools; no surprises. collegebasketball.scout.com/story/1536828-lee-narrows-list-to-five- Zona - Zags - Louisville - Marquette - Maryland Lee told Scout what he likes about each of the five: Arizona: “They have a great coaching staff. They have some good guards that are coming in and that have been there. Just the experience and playing in the PAC-12, which is a free flowing league that is guard heavy. They have an open offense.” Gonzaga: “They possibly have the best frontcourt in the nation with [Domantas] Sabonis and [Przemek] Karnowski and they lost all three of their guards this past year. Once again, they made it to the tournament and have a great coaching staff with coach [Mark] Few.” Louisville: “Playing in arguably best conference in the ACC. Of course playing for coach [Rick] Pitino, he’s a Hall of Fame coach. The guys they are bringing, they are looking pretty good in the ACC.” Marquette: “Wojo is a great guy and a great coach. Playing in the Big East, they are supposed to be really good this year with Henry Ellenson coming in. He’s a top five player. Luke Fischer is coming in and he’s a good big man. They have some talented freshman in.” Maryland: “They have Melo [Trimble] and Jake [Layman] coming back and Diamond Stone coming in and the transfer Rob Carter that sat out last year. Playing in the Big Ten and they should be preseason ranked. All these teams should be preseason ranked top 25. They have pretty good point guard play too.” Lee has already set visits to Arizona (April 17-19) and Louisville (19-21). Gonzaga will come in to see him on April 22nd. Lee told Scout that he’s not sure when he’ll make his college choice.
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Post by fredgarvinmp on Apr 12, 2015 18:10:36 GMT -8
Just in from Scout, Lee's narrows his choices to 5 schools; no surprises. collegebasketball.scout.com/story/1536828-lee-narrows-list-to-five- Zona - Zags - Louisville - Marquette - Maryland Lee told Scout what he likes about each of the five: Arizona: “They have a great coaching staff. They have some good guards that are coming in and that have been there. Just the experience and playing in the PAC-12, which is a free flowing league that is guard heavy. They have an open offense.” Gonzaga: “They possibly have the best frontcourt in the nation with [Domantas] Sabonis and [Przemek] Karnowski and they lost all three of their guards this past year. Once again, they made it to the tournament and have a great coaching staff with coach [Mark] Few.” Louisville: “Playing in arguably best conference in the ACC. Of course playing for coach [Rick] Pitino, he’s a Hall of Fame coach. The guys they are bringing, they are looking pretty good in the ACC.” Marquette: “Wojo is a great guy and a great coach. Playing in the Big East, they are supposed to be really good this year with Henry Ellenson coming in. He’s a top five player. Luke Fischer is coming in and he’s a good big man. They have some talented freshman in.” Maryland: “They have Melo [Trimble] and Jake [Layman] coming back and Diamond Stone coming in and the transfer Rob Carter that sat out last year. Playing in the Big Ten and they should be preseason ranked. All these teams should be preseason ranked top 25. They have pretty good point guard play too.” Lee has already set visits to Arizona (April 17-19) and Louisville (19-21). Gonzaga will come in to see him on April 22nd. Lee told Scout that he’s not sure when he’ll make his college choice. With these "mid-level" schools the only ones going after him, jimmytheaztec is right, his stats are misleading!
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Post by Gundo on Apr 23, 2015 9:32:44 GMT -8
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Post by standiego on Apr 23, 2015 11:00:27 GMT -8
We may want to be realistic about getting guys to transfer to SDSU , in the MW . as a Scorer . Maybe guys that can play D , rebound or basic solid guys . We are known for playing D , do not play D and your playing time is limited . Guys want brand name conferences and an up tempo offense. So some guys do not see SDSU or the MW as the right match for them.
Josh Davis came in as rebounder/defense . Chol came back home at center . JJ , Polee , AQ solid players . X as PG ( then he developed into a scorer his senior season). James Johnson , Green ..... Before that we did get M.Thomas , T Bland , Lo Wade . Abukar, but is that at least 5 years or longer .
Maybe we can sign the grad transfer is it M. Tollefsen from San Fran . If he sees us as a fit for him .
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Post by AztecBill on Apr 23, 2015 18:24:19 GMT -8
We may want to be realistic about getting guys to transfer to SDSU , in the MW . as a Scorer . Maybe guys that can play D , rebound or basic solid guys . We are known for playing D , do not play D and your playing time is limited . Guys want brand name conferences and an up tempo offense. So some guys do not see SDSU or the MW as the right match for them. Josh Davis came in as rebounder/defense . Chol came back home at center . JJ , Polee , AQ solid players . X as PG ( then he developed into a scorer his senior season). James Johnson , Green ..... Before that we did get M.Thomas , T Bland , Lo Wade . Abukar, but is that at least 5 years or longer . Maybe we can sign the grad transfer is it M. Tollefsen from San Fran . If he sees us as a fit for him . You blew that post. You're pretty far off reality.
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Post by standiego on Apr 23, 2015 18:53:08 GMT -8
So what transfer have we gotten in the last 3 or 4 years has transferred in and averaged 15 points per game their first year here ?
X came in as PG, but it was not until his third year that he started being the scorer for the team . Not sure how many points M. Thomas averaged his first year here maybe 12 , was that at least 4 years ago . Also believe he went to a WCC school ,then local JC then here . Bland , Lo Wade , .... go back even further
Not Green , Davis , JJ , Polee , AQ , James Johnson , Rahon . Chol ,
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 23, 2015 21:44:42 GMT -8
So what transfer have we gotten in the last 3 or 4 years has transferred in and averaged 15 points per game their first year here ? X came in as PG, but it was not until his third year that he started being the scorer for the team . Not sure how many points M. Thomas averaged his first year here maybe 12 , was that at least 4 years ago . Also believe he went to a WCC school ,then local JC then here . Bland , Lo Wade , .... go back even further Not Green , Davis , JJ , Polee , AQ , James Johnson , Rahon . Chol ,
X didn't NEED to be a scorer until his senior year; he could have been one at any time. Just like next year with JJ & AQ gone others will step into the role, and that could be filled by one of the returnees and/or by a transfer. A proven scorer would WANT to come to team that lacked scoring and just lost 2 of their leading scorers.
Where did the magic 15 pts/gm come from BTW? Are you saying someone who scores 10-12 per game isn't an effective scorer if he happens to play for a balanced team? You may be surprised to hear OFFENSIVE players come to SDSU. Think Pope came here because he was a defensive guy? Kell? Chol?
Also, we're more uptempo offensively than Wisconsin, Utah & Virginia, and basically on par with Okie St, Wichita St, and many other top squads, and those teams seem to be doing pretty well. Kids want to play for them; kids like the offensive freedom our coaches allow our players.
Yes, you have to play D' to play, but that can be taught. Especially to a transfer who may tend to more physically mature than a Pope or a Zabo, who struggled with strength & technique.
We're a top 25 program; kids know they'll go dancing if they come here, which is a primary draw. We're an attractive destination, for the right person. We're also deep. Whoever comes here has to be very good or they'll know they won't get much PT.
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Post by ignoranus on Apr 24, 2015 5:30:01 GMT -8
Chol, coming out of high school, was one of the top shot blockers in history. Isn't that sufficient enough to consider him a "defensive guy"?
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Post by standiego on Apr 24, 2015 7:57:16 GMT -8
Yes have said that Pope and Kell , were brought in mostly as scorers from HS , where you have 1 to 4 years to work with them . Pope is a great offensive weapon , but did not get that much PT ,first he had to recover from his injury, then he needed the instructions on how to play the Aztec defense , not easy to pick up on the fly. Also Pope and Oubre(sp) went to visit at Kansas , Kansas picked Oubre , so we got the call from Pope he was coming here . Will be interesting to see what he can do against Kansas this year . Also Kell was deciding between Vandy and SDSU , but Vandy signed at least two other guards , so Kell came here .
But the post was about D. Lee a transfer . I was saying think it is not easy bringing in a "scorer" here when they know that if D , is not your better skill , you may not make SDSU , your first choice . There are still options out there for grad transfers , Tollefsen 6'9" SF (some rate him as the 11th best transfer) or BC's Lonnie Jackson 6'4" SG . Or a transfer that would have to sit .
The key was first finding out what Winston was going to do . Now that he is coming back Aztecs have 3 forwards Winston , Pope , Zylan that should see a lot of PT . D . Allen , another forward has not decided but as of today ( Zeigler: the longer he waits to make a decision the more likely he will stay but nothing is definite, especially if the Aztecs bring in another forward ) . D. Allen is lock down defender against guys 6-6 to 6-2 . Also is very good at scoring going to the basket . BJ another forward/center starts in 2015 but there are numerous rumors that he could red shirt if not needed immediately. to work on his frame and skills
After Winston . Next priority is finding out what N. Narain 6'10 " PF/C is going to do re classify for 2015 or stay at 2016 . Right now he is rumored to be deciding between Aztecs and Gonzaga , but nothing final . He has also brought up he may want to red shirt . Biggest needs for 2016 is replacing Spencer, Chol . Winston , Pope so Narain is very important . Reports are that M. Cage PF still has us on his list for 2016 . We have no clue what former recruit K. Smith SF/SG is going to do for 2016 , so we are moving on , talking with other recruits for 2016
X was first brought in as a red shirt transfer to take over for PG DJ Gay . the scoring came his third year with the team.
As is the story with recruiting a lot of moving parts .
there are still a lot of moving parts
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