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Post by spaztec33 on Oct 19, 2014 10:10:19 GMT -8
From NCAA website, nice source for statistic data --> stats.ncaa.org/team/index/11980?org_id=626.015th in scoring defense (18.7/gm; 1st in MWC) Tied for 20th in passes intercepted (9, one more than all of last season; 3rd in MWC) 29th in total defense (339.3/gm; 2nd in MWC) 32nd in rushing defense (125/gm; 2nd in MWC) 47th in passing efficiency defense (118.69; 3rd in MWC)
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Post by uncledougy on Oct 19, 2014 10:49:06 GMT -8
And 1 Hail Mary touchdown for the only Hawaii TD last night. The defense is starting to impress me.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 19, 2014 11:00:48 GMT -8
And 1 Hail Mary touchdown for the only Hawaii TD last night. The defense is starting to impress me. Well, don't forget that the, "Hail Mary," was only 39 yards. Hawaii moved the ball at will on a fantastic drive at the end of the half where they did a great job with the clock management. There was still time left after the Hail Mary, so even if it were incomplete they would have had another shot. (Wasn't that a 3rd down? Or am I remembering the down incorrectly? - edit: Yep, it was 3rd down, so even had it been knocked down they still would have had another play, and they HAD been moving the ball at will on that drive, unfortunately.) But, more on topic - our defense has been fairly good. We need it to remain good against the tougher conference teams that we will face from here on out. That will be the real test. Our defense has been really good against weak opponents, can they build on that and play well against better offenses? I hope so...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 12:46:49 GMT -8
And 1 Hail Mary touchdown for the only Hawaii TD last night. The defense is starting to impress me. Well, don't forget that the, "Hail Mary," was only 39 yards. Hawaii moved the ball at will on a fantastic drive at the end of the half where they did a great job with the clock management. There was still time left after the Hail Mary, so even if it were incomplete they would have had another shot. (Wasn't that a 3rd down? Or am I remembering the down incorrectly? - edit: Yep, it was 3rd down, so even had it been knocked down they still would have had another play, and they HAD been moving the ball at will on that drive, unfortunately.) But, more on topic - our defense has been fairly good. We need it to remain good against the tougher conference teams that we will face from here on out. That will be the real test. Our defense has been really good against weak opponents, can they build on that and play well against better offenses? I hope so... Dude they gained 260 total yards the same as New Mexico last week. Teams always have to get better Rocky said as much in the press conference. Largent being fully healthy and Ezell will really help.
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Post by Gundo on Oct 19, 2014 13:00:31 GMT -8
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Post by eeaztec on Oct 19, 2014 13:11:37 GMT -8
15th in the country, I'll take it.
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Post by Gundo on Oct 19, 2014 23:12:54 GMT -8
15th in the country, I'll take it. Boise and Nevada both will test our defense, Fresno, Hawaii and UNM were on the weak side. In a way were lucky we don't have to play USU or CSU in the altitude or cold this year.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Oct 20, 2014 5:17:01 GMT -8
Not to be a debbie downer but a lot of it has to do with the fact that we've had a super weak schedule thus far. Our defense is good, but I think the numbers are a little inflated. It'll be a better judgement vs better competition
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Post by eeaztec on Oct 20, 2014 5:28:09 GMT -8
Because UNC, Oregon State, and Fresno State are weak offenses. And UNM was only the 4th ranked rushing offense in the nation when we played them.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Oct 20, 2014 5:50:23 GMT -8
Because UNC, Oregon State, and Fresno State are weak offenses. And UNM was only the 4th ranked rushing offense in the nation when we played them. Fresno State is awful.... UNC and OSU both aren't great and were able to have pretty good days against our defense. UNM is purely schemed to run the ball so of course they're going to get rushing yards, it doesn't mean they have any kind of good offense. They're 127th in the pass, averaging 87 yards a game. I like our defense but lets not get carried away...Lets see how we do against Nevada and Boise, and then we'll be able to properly assess how good our D is
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Post by eeaztec on Oct 20, 2014 5:53:59 GMT -8
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Post by sdcoug on Oct 20, 2014 10:49:43 GMT -8
Please don't confuse those seeking negativity with actual facts!! Nevermind we played those "lousy offenses" on the road as well, nor the fact we held FSU offense below their average despite the fact our FR QB couldn't move the team & the defense was constantly on the field facing tough situations to start drives. This D' has been VERY impressive thus far. Yes, we face a few really good challenges over the next 3 weeks, but that doesn't take away from how well they've played thus far. Will never understand why people are so obsessed with the "lets prove it in the future" mentality and can't enjoy what's already been accomplished.
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Post by aztech on Oct 20, 2014 11:16:44 GMT -8
Please don't confuse those seeking negativity with actual facts!! Nevermind we played those "lousy offenses" on the road as well, nor the fact we held FSU offense below their average despite the fact our FR QB couldn't move the team & the defense was constantly on the field facing tough situations to start drives. This D' has been VERY impressive thus far. Yes, we face a few really good challenges over the next 3 weeks, but that doesn't take away from how well they've played thus far. Will never understand why people are so obsessed with the "lets prove it in the future" mentality and can't enjoy what's already been accomplished. I understand what you're saying, but it is necessary to look at the big picture which is the rest of the season. Yes, the defense has shown to be stellar up to this point. However, we do need our offense to start scoring more and that's what Rocky admitted when questioned at halftime on Saturday. In fact, I think the defense could be even better if we're a couple of scores ahead so they could take some high reward risks. As it is now without a good offense our defense can't afford to get burned in close games.
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Post by sdcoug on Oct 20, 2014 11:46:18 GMT -8
Please don't confuse those seeking negativity with actual facts!! Nevermind we played those "lousy offenses" on the road as well, nor the fact we held FSU offense below their average despite the fact our FR QB couldn't move the team & the defense was constantly on the field facing tough situations to start drives. This D' has been VERY impressive thus far. Yes, we face a few really good challenges over the next 3 weeks, but that doesn't take away from how well they've played thus far. Will never understand why people are so obsessed with the "lets prove it in the future" mentality and can't enjoy what's already been accomplished. I understand what you're saying, but it is necessary to look at the big picture which is the rest of the season. Yes, the defense has shown to be stellar up to this point. However, we do need our offense to start scoring more and that's what Rocky admitted when questioned at halftime on Saturday. In fact, I think the defense could be even better if we're a couple of scores ahead so they could take some high reward risks. As it is now without a good offense our defense can't afford to get burned in close games.
People will ALWAYS want more from their offense and defense and has & will be the case until the end of time. Look at Alabama fans last week! Doesn't take away from how well the D' has played thus far which is what the OP was referring to.
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Post by sdsudevil on Oct 20, 2014 13:37:39 GMT -8
Because UNC, Oregon State, and Fresno State are weak offenses. And UNM was only the 4th ranked rushing offense in the nation when we played them. Fresno State is awful.... UNC and OSU both aren't great and were able to have pretty good days against our defense. UNM is purely schemed to run the ball so of course they're going to get rushing yards, it doesn't mean they have any kind of good offense. They're 127th in the pass, averaging 87 yards a game. I like our defense but lets not get carried away...Lets see how we do against Nevada and Boise, and then we'll be able to properly assess how good our D is UNC for sure, and possibly OSU have more explosive offenses. UNC routinely drops 40 on teams, including cream of the crop teams. Give our defense some credit. We have faced some talented offenses.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Oct 21, 2014 10:25:27 GMT -8
Wow, so many weak comments, our defense has been strong as indicated by how we performed against teams vs everyone else on their schedule. Starting with NC, and excluding all FCS opponents...
Carolina, 36 per game excluding SDSU, 31 against us including a pick six
OSU, 27 per game, 28 vs SDSU
UNLV, 20 per game, 17 against the Aztecs
FSU, 22 per game, 24 vs SDSU including a gift TD late.
UNM, 27 per game, 14 against us.
UH, 22 per game, 10 last Saturday.
UNR is averaging 31 per game and has lost two straight home MWC games including CSU
FSU, UNR and BSU all average between 76 and 79 plays per game and around 450 yards per game. FSU has the lowest point and yardage total of the three by a little bit, but also played easily the toughest schedule.
Also, SDSU only allows 65 plays per game and 339 yards, holding FSU to only 71 plays in their uptempo offense.
Write it down neither BSU nor UNR will get to 30 points.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Oct 21, 2014 20:55:54 GMT -8
More interesting to talk why. First time ever I've seen the Aztecs comfortable to rotate eight (as in EIGHT) DL into the game. Add to that the emergence of Munson (just a Soph) and great play by the two Gs boys at LB and you hardly missed Largent and Fely. Safeties not great early but getting better all the time. And, did you notice that #23 finally turned around to make that pick last week. Good passing teams upcoming, got to have improving pass defense AND better pressure on QB than currently. All this will make things so much easier on the offense.
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Post by aztecron on Oct 22, 2014 6:44:19 GMT -8
And 1 Hail Mary touchdown for the only Hawaii TD last night. The defense is starting to impress me. Well, don't forget that the, "Hail Mary," was only 39 yards. Hawaii moved the ball at will on a fantastic drive at the end of the half where they did a great job with the clock management. There was still time left after the Hail Mary, so even if it were incomplete they would have had another shot. (Wasn't that a 3rd down? Or am I remembering the down incorrectly? - edit: Yep, it was 3rd down, so even had it been knocked down they still would have had another play, and they HAD been moving the ball at will on that drive, unfortunately.) But, more on topic - our defense has been fairly good. We need it to remain good against the tougher conference teams that we will face from here on out. That will be the real test. Our defense has been really good against weak opponents, can they build on that and play well against better offenses? I hope so... How about you focus on the other 59 minutes of the game as well rather than one fluke play. They were moving the ball at will? Really? We had 457 yards of offense to there 264 yards. Define "at will" for me cause by your definition it was US who moved the ball at will. Against Washington, Hawaii had 424 yards of offense and scored 16 points while giving up 336 yards to Washington. Against Oregon St. Hawaii had 336 yards of offense and scored 30 points. Against Northern Iowa Hawaii had 378 yards of total offense and scored 27 points. Against Colorado they had 284 yards of total offense and scored 12 points. Against Rice they 261 yards of offense and scored 14 points. I say again, against us, SDSU, they had 264 yards total offense and scored 10 points. No team out of Washington, Oregon St, Northern Iowa, Colorado or Rice did what we did to Hawaii, no one. What is the deal with your passive aggressive denigration of the Aztecs effort and outcome versus Hawaii? This statement of yours is ridiculous when taking into account of the information I've just provided above. "edit: Yep, it was 3rd down, so even had it been knocked down they still would have had another play, and they HAD been moving the ball at will on that drive, unfortunately.)"Give it a rest and enjoy an Aztec win without bias, recognize effort and outcome, again, without bias. When you compare our game against all other competition Hawaii has faced this year it isn't even close to how we dominated them. Lastly, even on the fluke hail Mary pass our guys were in position to make the play and did, but the ball bounced off of McGee's body into Kemp's hands while he was on the ground.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Oct 22, 2014 6:50:08 GMT -8
Well, don't forget that the, "Hail Mary," was only 39 yards. Hawaii moved the ball at will on a fantastic drive at the end of the half where they did a great job with the clock management. There was still time left after the Hail Mary, so even if it were incomplete they would have had another shot. (Wasn't that a 3rd down? Or am I remembering the down incorrectly? - edit: Yep, it was 3rd down, so even had it been knocked down they still would have had another play, and they HAD been moving the ball at will on that drive, unfortunately.) But, more on topic - our defense has been fairly good. We need it to remain good against the tougher conference teams that we will face from here on out. That will be the real test. Our defense has been really good against weak opponents, can they build on that and play well against better offenses? I hope so... How about you focus on the other 59 minutes of the game as well rather than one fluke play. They were moving the ball at will? Really? We had 457 yards of offense to there 264 yards. Define "at will" for me cause by your definition it was US who moved the ball at will. Against Washington, Hawaii had 424 yards of offense and scored 16 points while giving up 336 yards to Washington. Against Oregon St. Hawaii had 336 yards of offense and scored 30 points. Against Northern Iowa Hawaii had 378 yards of total offense and scored 27 points. Against Colorado they had 284 yards of total offense and scored 12 points. Against Rice they 261 yards of offense and scored 14 points. I say again, against us, SDSU, they had 264 yards total offense and scored 10 points. No team out of Washington, Oregon St, Northern Iowa, Colorado or Rice did what we did to Hawaii, no one. What is the deal with your passive aggressive denigration of the Aztecs effort and outcome versus Hawaii? This statement of yours is ridiculous when taking into account of the information I've just provided above. "edit: Yep, it was 3rd down, so even had it been knocked down they still would have had another play, and they HAD been moving the ball at will on that drive, unfortunately.)"Give it a rest and enjoy an Aztec win without bias, recognize effort and outcome, again, without bias. When you compare our game against all other competition Hawaii has faced this year it isn't even close to how we dominated them. Lastly, even on the fluke hail Mary pass our guys were in position to make the play and did, but the ball bounced off of McGee's body into Kemp's hands while he was on the ground. It shouldn't be forgotten that Hawaii was also missing their best player on offense.. their stud RB. But I agree, our D played well
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 22, 2014 10:52:55 GMT -8
Our defense did play fairly well overall. But I don't think Rocky would quite view that performance as one that he's real happy with, either. There were definitely things that need to be worked on.
But, overall, it was a solid defensive performance.
The team is going to have to step it up, though, as the level of competition gets tougher.
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