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Post by AztecBill on Aug 15, 2014 8:58:37 GMT -8
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Post by aztec70 on Aug 15, 2014 10:13:36 GMT -8
Really amazing. It is putting the coal companys out of business. They can not compete. Just hope there are no nasty water surprises down the road.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 15, 2014 11:57:40 GMT -8
Really amazing. It is putting the coal companys out of business. They can not compete. Just hope there are no nasty water surprises down the road. Like the problems with Nuclear power the problems with fracking are greatly overblown by those who would not be in favor of any great idea in creating power. Folks who only like power generation if it doesn't work. |
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Post by aztec70 on Aug 15, 2014 14:47:06 GMT -8
Really amazing. It is putting the coal companys out of business. They can not compete. Just hope there are no nasty water surprises down the road. Like the problems with Nuclear power the problems with fracking are greatly overblown by those who would not be in favor of any great idea in creating power. Folks who only like power generation if it doesn't work. Not sure about that. Seems the downstream costs of power generation are always ignored, rather than be overblown. |
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Post by uwphoto on Aug 15, 2014 15:11:30 GMT -8
Like the problems with Nuclear power the problems with fracking are greatly overblown by those who would not be in favor of any great idea in creating power. Folks who only like power generation if it doesn't work. Not sure about that. Seems the downstream costs of power generation are always ignored, rather than be overblown. This guy Bill is basically blind. He cannot step back and have an objective view of ground water issues as it relates to fracking at all. His views are tired and predictable. I talked at length with a fracking company insider at length once and he told me that fracking was mostly ok below a certain depth and dangerous for ground water impacts in certain parts of the US when it occurs above a certain depth (I can't give the exact depth because I don't remember). Bill is a one trick pony who cannot discuss an environmental issue objectively at all. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Aug 17, 2014 10:22:13 GMT -8
Clearly we, the USA should look elsewhere for our energy needs. We buy oil from one Middle East faction and that pisses off their rival, which draws our country into a conflict. Let the Middle Easterners sell their petroleum to China and India, the instant our money leaves the region, we cease becoming the great satan to them.
My thought on the environmental impact is that there is plenty of this shale oil to meet our energy needs. Let's for the time being pick the "lowhanging fruit" meaning the shale which has the least environmental impact until something else is developed in the coming decades which will make petrol obsolete.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 17, 2014 20:06:14 GMT -8
Not sure about that. Seems the downstream costs of power generation are always ignored, rather than be overblown. This guy Bill is basically blind. He cannot step back and have an objective view of ground water issues as it relates to fracking at all. His views are tired and predictable. I talked at length with a fracking company insider at length once and he told me that fracking was mostly ok below a certain depth and dangerous for ground water impacts in certain parts of the US when it occurs above a certain depth (I can't give the exact depth because I don't remember). Bill is a one trick pony who cannot discuss an environmental issue objectively at all. My understanding is that it is all done below the water table. We know those videos of burning water out of the tap were bogus. |
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