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Post by AztecBill on Aug 12, 2014 13:44:40 GMT -8
I have known these issues with the basic foundations of AGW for a while but never before had such a great presentation by a leading atmospheric scientist. Quick intro not in English.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 12, 2014 13:51:29 GMT -8
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Post by davdesid on Aug 12, 2014 14:37:10 GMT -8
The real agenda, in their own words....
“We’ve got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing – in terms of economic policy and environmental policy” – Senator Timothy Wirth, 1990
"No matter if the science [of global warming] is all phony . . . climate change [provides] the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.” —Christine Stewart, Canadian Minister of the Environment, Calgary Herald, 1998
“I believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are, and how hopeful it is that we are going to solve this crisis.” — Al Gore, Grist magazine, May 2006
"The answer to global warming is in the abolition of private property and production of human need. A socialist world would place an enormous priority on alternative energy sources. That is what ecologically minded socialists have been exploring for quite some time now." --- Louis Proyect, Columbia University, December 2008
“I gave a talk recently (on fallacies of global warming) and three members of the Canadian government, the environmental cabinet, came up afterwards and said, ‘We agree with you, but it’s not worth our jobs to say anything.’ So what’s being created is a huge industry with billions of dollars of government money and people’s jobs dependent on it.” – Dr. Tim Ball, Coast-to-Coast, Feb 6, 2007
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 12, 2014 15:11:35 GMT -8
Listening to this presentation closely leads to the conclusion if temperatures continue to fall CO2 in the atmosphere will begin to level out and eventually fall no matter the human contribution. CO2 levels follow temperature but lags 90 degrees in the cycle. His proof especially in the graphs at the end are convincing.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 14, 2014 8:31:19 GMT -8
It will take a smoking gun to finally kill the CO2 driven climate theory. What that will be, IMHO, is the sun going into a quiet mode causing prolonged cold plus (and this is important because with just cooling many will still cling to AGW) CO2 levels in the atmosphere dropping despite increased human production. That is my prediction weighing evidence I have seen.
Undoubtedly it won't take long for man to become the culprit again with solutions inline with world government control advocates. There have always been an elite (in their eyes) that think they could make this world a better place if only they had all the power. It is part of the long struggle between liberty and tyranny.
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