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Post by AztecBill on Apr 21, 2014 12:50:30 GMT -8
They are starting a tour with the singer from the play Love, Janice replacing Grace Slick. I saw Love, Janice and thought the singer that sang all the Janice Joplin songs was incredible.
May 24, at The Cave in Big Bear.
July 10 at the Belly Up.
Paul Kantner
David Freiberg
Donny Baldwin
Chris Smith
Jude Gold
Cathy Richardson (from Love, Janice)
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 21, 2014 13:22:05 GMT -8
They are starting a tour with the singer from the play Love, Janice replacing Grace Slick. I saw Love, Janice and thought the singer that sang all the Janice Joplin songs was incredible. May 24, at The Cave in Big Bear. July 10 at the Belly Up. Paul Kantner David Freiberg Donny Baldwin Chris Smith Jude Gold Cathy Richardson (from Love, Janice) Only original member is Kantner, Freiberg is from the late, great, Quicksilver Messenger Service. Saw Jefferson Starship in 1975 at the famous "Snack Sunday" show at Kezar Stadium. Acts included: Santana, Grateful Dead, Dobbie Bros., Neil Young, Bob Dylan and more. Starship was vastly inferior to the Airplane. |
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Post by AztecBill on Apr 21, 2014 13:41:11 GMT -8
I saw Love, Janice and thought Cathy Richardson was incredible.
Vastly is a little too strong. Freiberg was an orignal memeber of Starship.
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 21, 2014 14:18:07 GMT -8
I saw Love, Janice and thought Cathy Richardson was incredible. Vastly is a little too strong. Freiberg was an orignal memeber of Starship. My bad re: Freiberg. However the important members of the original Starship were Grace Slick and Marty Balin. Vastly is not strong enough! Jefferson Airplane are legendary and in the Rock Hall of Fame....Starship not so much. "We Built this City on Rock n Roll" is on many "worst rock song ever written" lists. Slick / Balin.. even Kantner would agree that the Starship could not hold a candle to the mighty Airplane! |
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 24, 2014 6:17:26 GMT -8
My bad re: Freiberg. However the important members of the original Starship were Grace Slick and Marty Balin. Vastly is not strong enough! Jefferson Airplane are legendary and in the Rock Hall of Fame....Starship not so much. "We Built this City on Rock n Roll" is on many "worst rock song ever written" lists. Slick / Balin.. even Kantner would agree that the Starship could not hold a candle to the mighty Airplane! First off, I'm not sure the Airplane belongs in the Rock Hall. I don't think they did enough consistently enough for long enough. But WOW their first couple albums were great. Jefferson Starship did some good stuff, some but not all written by Marty, but most of it was overly romantic (ie, Miracles, With Your Love). I remember a song called Caroline that was all right. They did some decent hard rock/pop too but it was more like Toto without lesser musicianship (although Craig Chaquico was the best guitarist associated with anything "Jefferson" and Mickey Thomas was a fine vocalist). Jefferson Starship and Starship aren't the same band as you probably know. That was 95% junk. Starship was no more similar to Jefferson Starship than the Doobie Brothers were the same band pre and post Michael McDonald. Jefferson Airplane = quintessentially 1960's, which is great Jefferson Starship = quintessentially 1970's, which is mostly enjoyable yet insubstantial Starship = quintessentially 1980's, which is mostly superficial, execrable really First off, great to be talking music again on the Board. JYP, Blasphemy regarding the Airplane in the Hall. There are many acts in the Hall that are less deserving than the Airplane. The Airplane was one of the iconic American rock bands of the late 60's. They could get in for just one album. Surrealistic Pillow does not have a single weak song on the entire album. The Airplane are one of the few bands that have been able to achieve this. Others off the top of my head would be Who's Next, the first Doors album, Sticky Fingers, The Josua Tree, etc. Craig Chaquico is unremarkable to me. Fact I get he and Neal Schon mixed up. Jorma Kaukonen was a great player. His electric and acoustic playing were unique. Saw he and Jack Cassidy in Hot Tuna quite a few times. I always felt that a great rock guitar player could play memorable acoustic pieces as well. Think Jimmy Page on Bron Y aur or Going to California. |
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 24, 2014 7:14:06 GMT -8
1. JYP, Blasphemy regarding the Airplane in the Hall. There are many acts in the Hall that are less deserving than the Airplane. 2. The Airplane was one of the iconic American rock bands of the late 60's. 3. They could get in for just one album. Surrealistic Pillow does not have a single weak song on the entire album. 4. The Airplane are one of the few bands that have been able to achieve this. Others off the top of my head would be Who's Next, the first Doors album, Sticky Fingers, The Josua Tree, etc. 5. Craig Chaquico is unremarkable to me. Fact I get he and Neal Schon mixed up. Jorma Kaukonen was a great player. His electric and acoustic playing were unique. Saw he and Jack Cassidy in Hot Tuna quite a few times. I always felt that a great rock guitar player could play memorable acoustic pieces as well. Think Jimmy Page on Bron Y aur or Going to California. 1. Agree that many many "rock" bands are in the HOF that are FAR less deserving than Airplane. That in itself doesn't mean that Airplane belongs. 2. The main criterion for RRHOF induction is supposed to be influence. Some would say that the Bee Gees or Journey were "iconic." I'm not sure how many groups were influenced by those two though. 3. Surrealistic Pillow is among my 100 favorite albums, which for me is really saying something. But I don't think Brady Anderson belongs in the baseball HOF because of his one great season. 4. This really is an "eye of the beholder" thing...for example I prefer everything the Who did before Who's Next to Who's Next itself. To me the Who is really two different bands---the mod band and the junk rock arena band. I like them both but I prefer a song like "Substitute" to "Who Are You," although I do like the latter. As for U2, I don't like anything they did after 1985 but I can see their influence and impact. 5. Oh yes...there's a difference between "good" and "great." When I say "good," I'm really referring to raw technical proficiency. There are dudes all over OB and the world who are "good." However, guys like Chaquico and Neal Schon, while excellent and versatile guitarists, have no defining style. They're just guys. Jimmy Page, one of my favorite guitar players, can barely even keep his guitar in tune let alone play the same solo twice. He's no "good," but he is GREAT (and I love the two tunes you mentioned by the way). Love "Substitute", the Who are pretty burnt out and going through the motions by the time they go on the "Who are You" tour.... which I saw at the Sports Arena in 1976. I don't know, "Behind Blue Eyes" and "Baba O'Riley" are pretty darn good. Love Jimmy. |
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