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Post by AztecWilliam on Nov 13, 2013 22:33:58 GMT -8
They bought the farm, every square inch of it, lock, stock, and barrel. Now that the law is collapsing, they expect those who sincerely think the law was a disaster from day one (and who predicted most of the problems years ahead of its debut) to willingly help plow the fields, repair the fences, and clean out the stables. I don't think so. www.realclearpolitics.com/newsletters/the_daily_debate/2013/11/13/index.htmlAzWm |
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Post by azteccc on Nov 13, 2013 23:46:49 GMT -8
When I voted for Obama in 2008, I was actually buying the progressive approach to health care reform that he campaigned on. Turned out to be part of the reason I didn't vote for him in 2012, I guess he got me with the whole "I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona..."
I couldn't care less what the GOP wants now. The ACA won't be repealed, i'll give anyone here odds.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Nov 14, 2013 2:22:13 GMT -8
When I voted for Obama in 2008, I was actually buying the progressive approach to health care reform that he campaigned on. Turned out to be part of the reason I didn't vote for him in 2012, I guess he got me with the whole "I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona..." I couldn't care less what the GOP wants now. The ACA won't be repealed, i'll give anyone here odds. You are really right. They have two years to get it fully implemented and it'll be too structurally hard to remove. It can be fixed, like removing the mandatory aspect and the mechanisms that forced millions to lose their existing coverage. That'll blunt it but then again drain the economy by removing healthier and more capable people from the ponzi aspect of this. This is nothing more than a forced interim step to single payer anyway. They need the next two years to force everyone to be a ward of this program then it can fail. Then the only way to fix it will be single payer. An elaborate Machiavellian plan IMO. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Nov 14, 2013 8:14:48 GMT -8
Don't worry Obama is to the rescue and announcing a fix to his law only two months after starting. It's only the beginning folks. The biggest drop on the roller coaster is never the first drop.
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Post by azteccc on Nov 14, 2013 8:16:38 GMT -8
Don't worry Obama is to the rescue and announcing a fix to his law only two months after starting. It's only the beginning folks. The biggest drop on the roller coaster is never the first drop. Have you never been on Goliath?! Favorite magic mountain roller coaster ever... |
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Post by azteccc on Nov 14, 2013 8:18:28 GMT -8
When I voted for Obama in 2008, I was actually buying the progressive approach to health care reform that he campaigned on. Turned out to be part of the reason I didn't vote for him in 2012, I guess he got me with the whole "I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona..." I couldn't care less what the GOP wants now. The ACA won't be repealed, i'll give anyone here odds. You are really right. They have two years to get it fully implemented and it'll be too structurally hard to remove. It can be fixed, like removing the mandatory aspect and the mechanisms that forced millions to lose their existing coverage. That'll blunt it but then again drain the economy by removing healthier and more capable people from the ponzi aspect of this. This is nothing more than a forced interim step to single payer anyway. They need the next two years to force everyone to be a ward of this program then it can fail. Then the only way to fix it will be single payer. An elaborate Machiavellian plan IMO. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards You may very well be right. I do find it humorous that Obama routinely bounces back and forth between clueless idiot and Machiavellian genius, though. |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Nov 14, 2013 8:32:58 GMT -8
Don't worry Obama is to the rescue and announcing a fix to his law only two months after starting. It's only the beginning folks. The biggest drop on the roller coaster is never the first drop. Have you never been on Goliath?! Favorite magic mountain roller coaster ever... It's a pretty good one. Was bummed years back when I heard a developer was looking to build homes there. I'm guessing it'll still happen one day though. |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Nov 14, 2013 9:45:48 GMT -8
All week I've read and heard how Obama's proposed fix couldn't work. Due to a few factors that in order to get those plans back it could take a few months and at which point regulators and insurance companies won't go down that road for something unless it's long term. Maybe it's as easy as a shovel ready project. Wait, shovel ready projects don't exist?
I do like though that this fix will last long enough to get past the elections. I sure hope that Americans aren't that stupid to believe there's a fix only to realize there wasn't a month after next year's elections.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Nov 14, 2013 11:14:26 GMT -8
I, too, heard the President this morning. He is basically making it up as he goes along. Seems to me that his "fix" is highly problematical and may cause more problems than it solves. If it works at all, which is by no means certain.
ObamaCare (or ACA is you are still drinking the KoolAid) was a bad idea incompetently executed. It cannot be fixed.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Nov 14, 2013 15:56:34 GMT -8
You are really right. They have two years to get it fully implemented and it'll be too structurally hard to remove. It can be fixed, like removing the mandatory aspect and the mechanisms that forced millions to lose their existing coverage. That'll blunt it but then again drain the economy by removing healthier and more capable people from the ponzi aspect of this. This is nothing more than a forced interim step to single payer anyway. They need the next two years to force everyone to be a ward of this program then it can fail. Then the only way to fix it will be single payer. An elaborate Machiavellian plan IMO. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards You may very well be right. I do find it humorous that Obama routinely bounces back and forth between clueless idiot and Machiavellian genius, though. I think he is tone-deaf to people he should be listening to which draws the idiot view. I think he listens to political advisors way too much which accounts for the Machiavellian aspect. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards |
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