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Post by azteccc on Sept 26, 2013 20:27:06 GMT -8
Or; "Quantitative modeling in Stupidity" www.cnbc.com/id/101064954"30 percent of the public don't know what ACA is, vs. only 12 percent when we asked about Obamacare. Forty-six percent oppose Obamacare, and 37 percent oppose ACA."
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Post by 78aztec82 on Sept 27, 2013 1:26:02 GMT -8
Sounds to me like the government hasn't done a good job of explaining it to the people.
I'm sure you heard WTOP running with that as well the other day. Most of Congress don't even understand the program. I'm curious why the president never spent any substantive time sitting with objective journalists to really respond and explain it all. I've heard a couple of his speeches but they don't take an explanatory format, more of a campaign speech with themes and attacks on detractors.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Sept 27, 2013 1:33:03 GMT -8
In case you are wondering, I've supported the concept of nationally affordable, totally private health care exchanges long before Clinton proposed his first plan. The key is national, available across all 50 states, DC and territories. Small and personally owned businesses, plus farmers would benefit. Offer it to the poorest areas as a nonprofit and get huge tax savings.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Sept 27, 2013 9:25:47 GMT -8
In case you are wondering, I've supported the concept of nationally affordable, totally private health care exchanges long before Clinton proposed his first plan. The key is national, available across all 50 states, DC and territories. Small and personally owned businesses, plus farmers would benefit. Offer it to the poorest areas as a nonprofit and get huge tax savings. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards Medicare for All !!!
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Post by azteccc on Sept 27, 2013 10:24:52 GMT -8
Sounds to me like the government hasn't done a good job of explaining it to the people. I'm sure you heard WTOP running with that as well the other day. Most of Congress don't even understand the program. I'm curious why the president never spent any substantive time sitting with objective journalists to really respond and explain it all. I've heard a couple of his speeches but they don't take an explanatory format, more of a campaign speech with themes and attacks on detractors. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards Very true. And it is a convoluted law that is difficult to explain, even to people that pay attention to such things. I am curious about your list of "objective journalists", but regardless, Obama and Congress should have explained the ACA in a much better/different way. There is also blame on the other side, however, (and I think you'd agree) when you've got issue advocacy campaigns spending hundreds of millions of dollars on everything from undermining the law to lying about the law. There is also the minority party who stands to lose from a positive implementation of the ACA. Those organizations and politicians have a network that dwarfs all other cable news networks, and have successfully used it to continue pushing valid concerns, invalid concerns, and outright lies.
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Post by azteccc on Sept 27, 2013 10:28:08 GMT -8
Offer it to the poorest areas as a nonprofit and get huge tax savings. I have been curious about the possibility of a nonprofit providing plans on the exchanges. The amount of capital required to start it would be huge on a national level, but it would quickly lower prices on all plans and theoretically has the potential to deal a large blow to private insurers.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Sept 27, 2013 13:48:27 GMT -8
Sounds to me like the government hasn't done a good job of explaining it to the people. I'm sure you heard WTOP running with that as well the other day. Most of Congress don't even understand the program. I'm curious why the president never spent any substantive time sitting with objective journalists to really respond and explain it all. I've heard a couple of his speeches but they don't take an explanatory format, more of a campaign speech with themes and attacks on detractors. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards Very true. And it is a convoluted law that is difficult to explain, even to people that pay attention to such things. I am curious about your list of "objective journalists", but regardless, Obama and Congress should have explained the ACA in a much better/different way. There is also blame on the other side, however, (and I think you'd agree) when you've got issue advocacy campaigns spending hundreds of millions of dollars on everything from undermining the law to lying about the law. There is also the minority party who stands to lose from a positive implementation of the ACA. Those organizations and politicians have a network that dwarfs all other cable news networks, and have successfully used it to continue pushing valid concerns, invalid concerns, and outright lies. In my world, all political discussions would be reasoned and aimed at educating the listener as to the valid reasons to accept their view rather than cereal box platitudes and bomb-throwing. Both sides have the opportunity to do that with the onus on the program support side to make teh first case as to why the program is the right one to accept and the opposition retorting with valid reasons to reject it then provide an alternative solution (ranging from status quo to something complex) Like that will ever happen... As for "objective journalists" I mean not manufacturing your presentation with hand-picked journalists who are merely supplicants and friendly to the cause. There are plenty of respected independant journalists out there to chose from... Obama chose Bill Clinton to ask the questions about the ACA this past week. It is no different than Bush going on Fox News to objectively discuss his programs.
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