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Post by smoothcat on Apr 20, 2013 10:38:59 GMT -8
Whenever someone says "no offense...but" someone is about to say something offensive. Fact of life. Wow, that was offensive to you? Really? You need to get thicker skin brother....you are WAY too sensitive.
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Post by smoothcat on Apr 20, 2013 10:42:01 GMT -8
I am surprised there is so much interest in this... Addressing the first half of your statement... This deals with the part of this whole cover-up/situation that bothers me most. Of all the comments on here, I suspect no more than a half-dozen of the commentators have attended more than two SDSU WBB games. They "care" for the sake of gossip (note: I retract this if it comes out that this is a department-wide issues that effects all donors -- again, not necessarily everyone who has commented). That said, if this is a WBB only issue, I believe those who invest in their product deserve at least a vague idea of what the deal is since, as I alluded to previously, they deserve to know what product they'll be buying tickets for in a couple weeks when those renewals get here (historically those arrive before the men's renewals, which only adds more "speculation" as in they may know something is afoul). I agree with that, if there is something that is going to impact the team the paying public has a right to know what that impact is before they have to commit money. As I mentioned previously, I am not a fan of women's basketball in general but certainly Beth Burns has been able to compile far better w-l records in the women's program than other coaches they have had and for that reason alone it is too bad she is leaving.
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Post by myownwords on Apr 20, 2013 13:06:59 GMT -8
I am surprised there is so much interest in this. No offense to the ladies, but I find women's basketball to be unwatchable, it is a bad product. I much prefer women's volleyball, soccer or tennis to women's basketball. I think the interest is enhanced because it is a continuing revelation about our sub-par administration.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Apr 20, 2013 14:30:06 GMT -8
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Post by Village Aztec on Apr 20, 2013 16:06:12 GMT -8
I have a guess, but I don't need the personal attacks that would come with it.
Let it go. Beth is not shy about talking so it has to be important to her.
I got to see the ladies in the Knoxville NCAA's at the end of her first term, and her last NCAA appearance in Memphis.
I used to go to the gym and sat with a guy who gave the girls candy.
I think SNL needs her as a writer. She has a fast mind and I can only imagine how fast it go's during a game.
I don't know if I would have followed any other womans coach. I sat in the first row with her assistand that invited me to come and watch her new team at Austin Pea. I got addicted and went to every game that year. I want to the play conference tournament. They announced that they had some NCAA tickets available so I went to the male NCAA's in Nashville.
This is what happens if you show up for Aztec away games. You have no idea what you miss out on.
This will be my 4th Ohio State game. I could have never guest all this in 1966 when we were D2.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 18:42:18 GMT -8
I feel like if Burns were to read this thread, her first thought would be: Wow, a lot more people care about our team then I ever imagined in my many years coaching.
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Post by jdgaucho on Apr 20, 2013 18:44:14 GMT -8
The reason Coach Burns stepped away is obvious. It's because SDSU chose to remain in the Mountain ;D
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Post by chris92065 on Apr 20, 2013 19:29:48 GMT -8
What's strange is the silence at San Diego State regarding retired women's basketball coach Beth Burns. The excuses that various school officials are traveling and unavailable to comment are lame. Speculation runs rampant vacant facts, and those following SDSU hoops deserve better. …
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One of the few times I actually agree with Paris.
I have never seen someone retire and just after recieving a contract extension with no reason given. This unacceptable for a public university that is funded by students, taxes, and donors.
Please, no comment from the parties involved is unacceptable and it is unacceptable for other people close to the situation to say that it is personnel and let it drop.
I want to believe in Sterk but this is the second time that something major has transpired at State regarding athletics and Sterk's response has simply sucked.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Apr 20, 2013 19:57:35 GMT -8
I used to go to the gym and sat with a guy who gave the girls candy. I'm sorry, what?
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Post by RockNFish on Apr 20, 2013 21:15:08 GMT -8
I used to go to the gym and sat with a guy who gave the girls candy. I'm sorry, what? Now that guy is not allowed within 500 ft of parks and schools
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Post by seagull on Apr 21, 2013 21:50:50 GMT -8
Yes, we donors need to pony up, for lots of reasons. Seagull said it was a personal matter. Some people here don't understand privacy laws, and risk to SDSU and this board. This thread needs to end. Seagull be wrong unless you consider NCAA violations a "personal matter". There is no NCAA Violation that I am aware. I am aware of the issue that led to the sudden retirement. I don't know all the details. But, from what I do know, you do not have a right to know. It is a private matter. Beth will reveal it if she wants, but I am sure she doesn't want to. Let this go. It's difficult not knowing something, but there is nothing to see here. Move along....
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Post by mattpohl on Apr 22, 2013 1:02:21 GMT -8
I am moving along. I'll be supporting track. Hang in there, Matt
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Post by 78aztec82 on Apr 22, 2013 2:49:42 GMT -8
Seagull be wrong unless you consider NCAA violations a "personal matter". There is no NCAA Violation that I am aware. I am aware of the issue that led to the sudden retirement. I don't know all the details. But, from what I do know, you do not have a right to know. It is a private matter. Beth will reveal it if she wants, but I am sure she doesn't want to. Let this go. It's difficult not knowing something, but there is nothing to see here. Move along.... The administration should just say that rather than say nothing. Silence invites questions and will encourage digging by the media and will cause the discovery of the reason. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards
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Post by OrphanAztec on Apr 22, 2013 5:33:47 GMT -8
It is a private matter. Beth will reveal it if she wants, but I am sure she doesn't want to. Let this go. I'm all for privacy and keeping my nose out of other people business. But it's hard to continue to support a program when it appears there is shenanigans going on behind the scenes. I guess my question would be "Do I still have confidence in the administration"? The way this whole thing played out gives me a "No" answer.
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Post by myownwords on Apr 22, 2013 6:11:55 GMT -8
Seagull be wrong unless you consider NCAA violations a "personal matter". There is no NCAA Violation that I am aware. I am aware of the issue that led to the sudden retirement. I don't know all the details. But, from what I do know, you do not have a right to know. It is a private matter. Beth will reveal it if she wants, but I am sure she doesn't want to. Let this go. It's difficult not knowing something, but there is nothing to see here. Move along.... You will forgive us if we don't feel compelled to take your word for it, yes?
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Post by hoobs on Apr 22, 2013 6:48:39 GMT -8
There is no NCAA Violation that I am aware. I am aware of the issue that led to the sudden retirement. I don't know all the details. But, from what I do know, you do not have a right to know. It is a private matter. Beth will reveal it if she wants, but I am sure she doesn't want to. Let this go. It's difficult not knowing something, but there is nothing to see here. Move along.... You will forgive us if we don't feel compelled to take your word for it, yes? Given Seagull's track record and credibility... Yeah I'd take his word for it. That being said, I agree with Stu that the university is courting trouble by its silence. "...A personal matter, respect for privacy, etc." would suffice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2013 9:51:11 GMT -8
All the posts by people supposedly in the know are only going to fuel the fire and speculation over her exit. If you actually know the reason, it's probably best that you follow the University's lead and stay silent, or just say exactly what it is.
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Post by MontezumaPhil on Apr 22, 2013 10:21:00 GMT -8
There is no NCAA Violation that I am aware. I am aware of the issue that led to the sudden retirement. I don't know all the details. But, from what I do know, you do not have a right to know. It is a private matter. Beth will reveal it if she wants, but I am sure she doesn't want to. Let this go. It's difficult not knowing something, but there is nothing to see here. Move along.... The administration should just say that rather than say nothing. Silence invites questions and will encourage digging by the media and will cause the discovery of the reason. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards Exactly. The silence is the worst part of this. Put out a bogus cover story if you have to, but don't just leave people to speculate. They'll always assume the worst. If what happend here is not embarrassing to either the school or Coach Burns, they say so right now. If it is an embarrassment, then get out in front of it before somebody in the media digs it up and turns it into a full-on scandal. Whatever it is, it can't be that bad. We already survived Schemmelgate.
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Post by seagull on Apr 22, 2013 10:44:38 GMT -8
There is no NCAA Violation that I am aware. I am aware of the issue that led to the sudden retirement. I don't know all the details. But, from what I do know, you do not have a right to know. It is a private matter. Beth will reveal it if she wants, but I am sure she doesn't want to. Let this go. It's difficult not knowing something, but there is nothing to see here. Move along.... You will forgive us if we don't feel compelled to take your word for it, yes? Totally. I support your right to drive yourself crazy looking for something that will never be revealed. The media and the fans can dig all they want, but I'm saying to save yourself the trouble. Swing for the fences if you want. I don't care. Blaming the administration as others have is ludicrous, but go ahead. There is no big deal behind the scenes despite the clear appearance of a major curfuffle.
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Post by myownwords on Apr 22, 2013 10:48:59 GMT -8
You will forgive us if we don't feel compelled to take your word for it, yes? Totally. I support your right to drive yourself crazy looking for something that will never be revealed. The media and the fans can dig all they want, but I'm saying to save yourself the trouble. Swing for the fences if you want. I don't care. Blaming the administration as others have is ludicrous, but go ahead. There is no big deal behind the scenes despite the clear appearance of a major curfuffle. Once again, you appear to have made a misstep. I find this situation sad to laughable and simply another display of incompetence and boobery by this administration. I'm not the one contorting myself into a pretzel in a vain attempt to defend these folks.
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