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Post by aztecwin on Jan 27, 2013 10:37:53 GMT -8
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Post by 78aztec82 on Jan 27, 2013 11:07:49 GMT -8
We've already been alerted. I chose a post service career that i could do because of my earned benefit. At this point, if they pulled the earned benefit, it would hurt. I have a number of service connected issues that make me difficult to insure even though I am fully employable. These are the kinds things us combat veterans face, especially those that are on the back end of our prime employable years.
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 27, 2013 13:22:47 GMT -8
We've already been alerted. I chose a post service career that i could do because of my earned benefit. At this point, if they pulled the earned benefit, it would hurt. I have a number of service connected issues that make me difficult to insure even though I am fully employable. These are the kinds things us combat veterans face, especially those that are on the back end of our prime employable years. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards If we had national health care you would not have to worry about insurance. |
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 27, 2013 13:24:02 GMT -8
I read the comments. I felt sad for them. |
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Post by 78aztec82 on Jan 27, 2013 15:44:24 GMT -8
We've already been alerted. I chose a post service career that i could do because of my earned benefit. At this point, if they pulled the earned benefit, it would hurt. I have a number of service connected issues that make me difficult to insure even though I am fully employable. These are the kinds things us combat veterans face, especially those that are on the back end of our prime employable years. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards If we had national health care you would not have to worry about insurance.  Who'd pay for it? We would, as we are seemingly being forced to now. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards |
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 27, 2013 19:52:57 GMT -8
If we had national health care you would not have to worry about insurance. Who'd pay for it? We would, as we are seemingly being forced to now. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards We are paying for your health care now. |
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Post by 78aztec82 on Jan 28, 2013 1:33:10 GMT -8
Who'd pay for it? We would, as we are seemingly being forced to now. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards We are paying for your health care now. I paid for my health care through my service. It included unpaid overtime, diminished wages, long, uncompensated periods away from home in arduous conditions with the possibility of being killed. and other treats. You missed my point. But again, I could find all your "freeloading" quotes you've made in the past to illustrate what you think of military care. We were recruited into the military and promised that after a career of arduous, life threatening service, to have our potentially diminished health due to that service taken care of. Now they want to take it away and make us pay for it ourselves. For folks that chose post service careers based upon that guarantee, it will be devastating for some. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards |
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 28, 2013 7:32:27 GMT -8
We are paying for your health care now. I paid for my health care through my service. It included unpaid overtime, diminished wages, long, uncompensated periods away from home in arduous conditions with the possibility of being killed. and other treats. You missed my point. But again, I could find all your "freeloading" quotes you've made in the past to illustrate what you think of military care. We were recruited into the military and promised that after a career of arduous, life threatening service, to have our potentially diminished health due to that service taken care of. Now they want to take it away and make us pay for it ourselves. For folks that chose post service careers based upon that guarantee, it will be devastating for some. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards You asked who would pay for universal health care. I answered you. The same people that are paying for your health care now. |
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 28, 2013 13:27:49 GMT -8
Who'd pay for it? We would, as we are seemingly being forced to now. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards We are paying for your health care now. Come on troll! We paid thru the imputed value of reduced pay coupled with many arduous conditions you will never know. Grow up a little. |
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 28, 2013 15:23:37 GMT -8
We are paying for your health care now. Come on troll! We paid thru the imputed value of reduced pay coupled with many arduous conditions you will never know. Grow up a little. Sorry if you two misunderstand me. Yes, your health care is part of your compensation. I am not saying anything about that. Stu was complaining that he could not get health insurance because of his service related health issues. I pointed out that if we had national health care that would not be an issue for him. Stu asked how that would be paid for. I said by taxes, just like his and your health care is paid now. Why is that hard to understand? |
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 28, 2013 15:28:28 GMT -8
Let me point out that you have advocated breaching contracts, between, state and local governments and their employees many times. Those damn pensions are going to bankrupt the City, County, State, or whatever. Since it is your ox that is being gored I am sure it is different now. |
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 28, 2013 17:30:09 GMT -8
Come on troll! We paid thru the imputed value of reduced pay coupled with many arduous conditions you will never know. Grow up a little. Sorry if you two misunderstand me. Yes, your health care is part of your compensation. I am not saying anything about that. Stu was complaining that he could not get health insurance because of his service related health issues. I pointed out that if we had national health care that would not be an issue for him. Stu asked how that would be paid for. I said by taxes, just like his and your health care is paid now. Why is that hard to understand? Nice try, but fail! When a man has spent his young adult years working in a relatively low paying, arduous and dangerous career, it is hard to disguise a crack like "We are paying for your health care now" as anything but a small selfish whine. It sounds like you want to renege on the nations obligations to those who serve. |
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 28, 2013 17:35:25 GMT -8
Let me point out that you have advocated breaching contracts, between, state and local governments and their employees many times. Those damn pensions are going to bankrupt the City, County, State, or whatever. Since it is your ox that is being gored I am sure it is different now. Wrong! I advocate changing systems so that over time both employees and taxpayers get a fair shake. I never once said that we should just back out of our obligations to anyone. It seems that on here you are the only one to complain in a way that appears to do so. |
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Post by 78aztec82 on Jan 28, 2013 18:01:04 GMT -8
I paid for my health care through my service. It included unpaid overtime, diminished wages, long, uncompensated periods away from home in arduous conditions with the possibility of being killed. and other treats. You missed my point. But again, I could find all your "freeloading" quotes you've made in the past to illustrate what you think of military care. We were recruited into the military and promised that after a career of arduous, life threatening service, to have our potentially diminished health due to that service taken care of. Now they want to take it away and make us pay for it ourselves. For folks that chose post service careers based upon that guarantee, it will be devastating for some. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards You asked who would pay for universal health care. I answered you. The same people that are paying for your health care now. I didn't want to be to pedantic and point out the obvious that my taxes would go up commensurate with the cost to cover the program. That is paying for it. I paid for it in advance. Would the taxpayers pay me back for all I put in if you take back what I earned? Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards |
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 28, 2013 19:55:50 GMT -8
You asked who would pay for universal health care. I answered you. The same people that are paying for your health care now. I didn't want to be to pedantic and point out the obvious that my taxes would go up commensurate with the cost to cover the program. That is paying for it. I paid for it in advance. Would the taxpayers pay me back for all I put in if you take back what I earned? You are not being pedantic, you are being obtuse. A national health care system would still provide you with health care. There would be nothing to pay you back for. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards |
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 28, 2013 19:57:35 GMT -8
Sorry if you two misunderstand me. Yes, your health care is part of your compensation. I am not saying anything about that. Stu was complaining that he could not get health insurance because of his service related health issues. I pointed out that if we had national health care that would not be an issue for him. Stu asked how that would be paid for. I said by taxes, just like his and your health care is paid now. Why is that hard to understand? Nice try, but fail! When a man has spent his young adult years working in a relatively low paying, arduous and dangerous career, it is hard to disguise a crack like "We are paying for your health care now" as anything but a small selfish whine. It sounds like you want to renege on the nations obligations to those who serve. Oh, did I annoy you? Wonderful. ;D |
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Post by 78aztec82 on Jan 28, 2013 20:05:20 GMT -8
I didn't want to be to pedantic and point out the obvious that my taxes would go up commensurate with the cost to cover the program. That is paying for it. I paid for it in advance. Would the taxpayers pay me back for all I put in if you take back what I earned? You are not being pedantic, you are being obtuse. A national health care system would still provide you with health care. There would be nothing to pay you back for. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards The, tax increase I would pay would be the cost. You know that. You are being purposely obtuse. |
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 29, 2013 5:54:54 GMT -8
Nice try, but fail! When a man has spent his young adult years working in a relatively low paying, arduous and dangerous career, it is hard to disguise a crack like "We are paying for your health care now" as anything but a small selfish whine. It sounds like you want to renege on the nations obligations to those who serve. Oh, did I annoy you? Wonderful. ;D If you take a little pleasure in thinking you have annoyed me while exposing your character, then so be it. You don't annoy me, you amuse me when you expose yourself for what you are. |
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 29, 2013 7:45:49 GMT -8
Oh, did I annoy you? Wonderful. ;D If you take a little pleasure in thinking you have annoyed me while exposing your character, then so be it. You don't annoy me, you amuse me when you expose yourself for what you are. LOL |
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Post by davdesid on Jan 29, 2013 15:14:53 GMT -8
We are paying for your health care now. I paid for my health care through my service. It included unpaid overtime, diminished wages, long, uncompensated periods away from home in arduous conditions with the possibility of being killed. and other treats. You missed my point. But again, I could find all your "freeloading" quotes you've made in the past to illustrate what you think of military care. We were recruited into the military and promised that after a career of arduous, life threatening service, to have our potentially diminished health due to that service taken care of. Now they want to take it away and make us pay for it ourselves. For folks that chose post service careers based upon that guarantee, it will be devastating for some. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards Some things never change, Stu... faxmentis.org/html/kipling.html |
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Who'd pay for it? We would, as we are seemingly being forced to now. 