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Post by Aztec Law on Jan 10, 2013 17:44:08 GMT -8
Technically... You can't pass to yourself, correct? Therefore does it go as a missed shot, a rebound and a slam dunk? Did he get credit for a rebound?
I apologize if this has been mentioned deep within another thread!
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Post by smoketree on Jan 10, 2013 17:48:21 GMT -8
Good question....It would have to be....Dutcher spoke about the play with Darren Smith this afternoon. Said he works on the play all the time and did it in every game this summer....In an odd way, that one play could be HUGE for recruiting.
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Post by myk13 on Jan 10, 2013 17:52:43 GMT -8
don't know about missed shot but he did get a rebound for it
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Post by AztecBill on Jan 10, 2013 17:55:50 GMT -8
don't know about missed shot but he did get a rebound for it Official scorers don't always get it right. Look at the Arizona game. Did you know Thames was blocked during that last second layup attempt? Yes, he got credit for the missed shot at the end of the game. That stuff happens. |
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Post by Azpire! on Jan 10, 2013 18:04:31 GMT -8
Good question....It would have to be....Dutcher spoke about the play with Darren Smith this afternoon. Said he works on the play all the time and did it in every game this summer....In an odd way, that one play could be HUGE for recruiting. I was saying this earlier today. Gets Fisher in front of more talented recruits. |
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Post by goaztecs on Jan 10, 2013 20:30:56 GMT -8
JFranks dunk=2pts
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Post by tonatiuh on Jan 10, 2013 22:15:07 GMT -8
Technically... You can't pass to yourself, correct? Therefore does it go as a missed shot, a rebound and a slam dunk? Did he get credit for a rebound? I apologize if this has been mentioned deep within another thread! It is an excellent question. I would think that technically you miss one shot, get a rebound, and make another on the slam. So, you are 1 for 2 on your shots, but who know how they would score it? |
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Post by jcljorgenson on Jan 10, 2013 23:07:33 GMT -8
You actually CAN pass to yourself, but the ball needs to hit the backboard in order to allow you to catch the ball again. I think it is somewhat of a judgement call for the scorekeeper, but this was an obvious attempt to pass to himself versus shoot. You can look at the play by play below, in this case they just gave him the dunk and no extra shot or rebound (look at dunk at the 15:03 mark): goaztecs.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2012-2013/sdsu-fs.html#GAME.PLY |
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Post by adammclane on Jan 10, 2013 23:36:12 GMT -8
I agree with jcl above. Scoring is hardly a science. I don't think you would record it as 2 shots and a rebound. When you clean it up, it's 1 shot, 1 make.
Regardless of how the scorers have it... it was worth about $2 mil come June IMO.
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Post by jcljorgenson on Jan 10, 2013 23:48:41 GMT -8
I agree with jcl above. Scoring is hardly a science. I don't think you would record it as 2 shots and a rebound. When you clean it up, it's 1 shot, 1 make. Regardless of how the scorers have it... it was worth about $2 mil come June IMO. Would have been an even more interesting question if he had 19 rebounds instead of 18, since a miss and a rebound would have given him the 20-20. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 0:33:52 GMT -8
Did Fish say anything about the dunk? I haven't read anything on it yet.
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Post by sdmotohead on Jan 11, 2013 8:55:40 GMT -8
There is nothing wrong with the play. As for passing to one's self - technically that's true in the sense that it would be called travelling. After watching the video he didn't travel. He took a couple steps as he launched the ball and then jumped, caught the ball mid-air off the backboard and then jammed it home. If he had caught the ball and landed first before dunking, that would've been travelling.
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Post by pseudoaztec on Jan 11, 2013 8:57:13 GMT -8
Did Fish say anything about the dunk? I haven't read anything on it yet. Something along the lines of Jamaal looking awful, and Fish looking like a coach with an undisciplined team had he missed the dunk. |
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Post by Fisher Fanatic on Jan 11, 2013 9:01:25 GMT -8
From the UT.
“I watched it on the bus going home, watched it four or five times,” said Steve Fisher, Franklin’s 67-year-old head coach, “and he did a great job setting it up. He had them spread and he knew exactly where he was going with it. They parted perfectly for him to make it work.
“That should not happen every game, 10 times a game. But I’ve always been someone who gives players freedom to make basketball plays.”
And if he had missed?
“If he had missed it, he would have looked awful and I would have looked like I had an undisciplined team,” Fisher said. “But you can’t worry about that.”
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Post by AztecBill on Jan 11, 2013 9:19:55 GMT -8
From the UT. “I watched it on the bus going home, watched it four or five times,” said Steve Fisher, Franklin’s 67-year-old head coach, “and he did a great job setting it up. He had them spread and he knew exactly where he was going with it. They parted perfectly for him to make it work. “That should not happen every game, 10 times a game. But I’ve always been someone who gives players freedom to make basketball plays.” And if he had missed? “If he had missed it, he would have looked awful and I would have looked like I had an undisciplined team,” Fisher said. “But you can’t worry about that.” I like that. It is like a coach who doesn't follow "book" in other sports. Going for it on 4th and 2 from the 50. Not bunting the winning run to second in the 9th with no outs. Or Fisher not calling a time out to set up the last play to win a game - New Mexico in 2011. |
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