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Post by k5james on Jan 10, 2013 16:02:47 GMT -8
BYU football to independence? Because WCC isnt nearly as bad as the Big West. Boise State going back to the MWC.
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Post by retiredaztec on Jan 10, 2013 16:05:53 GMT -8
Nice rhetoric. Now how do we pay bills on the 37 cents a day we'd get from the Hair Conference. Especially when California pulls the plug. All things being equal this would be a no brainer. But, sadly, they are not. If money is the be all end all, stand on a street corner with a tin cup, knock on doors or just accept the fact that whatever money the BE may be able to generate, it still may not matter if the community support just isn't there. I'll tell you what, hang out at any bar in SD next year and ask the barflys which conference the SDSU football team is a member of. Here's a crazy thought: rise above the cronic mediocrity and be good enough to go to a BCS bowl. Under the new MW agreement that could generate some serious bucks for the program. But I guess that just too hard to imagine. Isn't it.
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Post by k5james on Jan 10, 2013 16:08:57 GMT -8
Nice rhetoric. Now how do we pay bills on the 37 cents a day we'd get from the Hair Conference. Especially when California pulls the plug. All things being equal this would be a no brainer. But, sadly, they are not. If money is the be all end all, stand on a street corner with a tin cup, knock on doors or just accept the fact that whatever money the BE may be able to generate, it still may not matter if the community support just isn't there. I'll tell you what, hang out at any bar in SD next year and ask the barflys which conference the SDSU football team is a member of. Here's a crazy thought: rise above the cronic mediocrity and be good enough to go to a BCS bowl. Under the new MW agreement that could generate some serious bucks for the program. But I guess that just too hard to imagine. Isn't it.
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Post by Azpire! on Jan 10, 2013 16:08:57 GMT -8
Smart move lol Think again. I was reading this piece before this thread even came up. A long piece with considerable thought involved. Typo's present, but decent insight into SDSU's perception and potential in going it alone vs. continuing in a "safe" manner by returning to the MWC. No national appeal would be gained in his opinion by going in that direction. I am taking time to read this piece again. Can't say I agree with everything that appears in it, but it's worth the time. The Dallas meeting isn't until tomorrow. Lol. ...and yes, it does need its own thread.
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Post by dirtball on Jan 10, 2013 16:15:36 GMT -8
BYU football to independence? Because WCC isnt nearly as bad as the Big West. Boise State going back to the MWC. lol, thats actually kind of funny. But still not the gap in stature IMO.
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Post by k5james on Jan 10, 2013 16:35:40 GMT -8
Boise State going back to the MWC. lol, thats actually kind of funny. But still not the gap in stature IMO. It's basically the same. There is no direct comparison because there aren't 30 FBS conferences like there are in basketball.
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Post by dirtball on Jan 10, 2013 16:46:43 GMT -8
lol, thats actually kind of funny. But still not the gap in stature IMO. It's basically the same. There is no direct comparison because there aren't 30 FBS conferences like there are in basketball. I would say Boise going to the MAC would be closer. As I see both the MWC and Big East as a step above despite the success the Mac had against the Big East.
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Post by rmksdsu30 on Jan 10, 2013 16:48:11 GMT -8
great read i agree with most
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Post by k5james on Jan 10, 2013 16:49:28 GMT -8
It's basically the same. There is no direct comparison because there aren't 30 FBS conferences like there are in basketball. I would say Boise going to the MAC would be closer. As I see both the MWC and Big East as a step above despite the success the Mac had against the Big East. The MAC was rated higher than the MWC this year.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Jan 10, 2013 16:56:26 GMT -8
Nice rhetoric. Now how do we pay bills on the 37 cents a day we'd get from the Hair Conference. Especially when California pulls the plug. All things being equal this would be a no brainer. But, sadly, they are not. If money is the be all end all, stand on a street corner with a tin cup, knock on doors or just accept the fact that whatever money the BE may be able to generate, it still may not matter if the community support just isn't there. I'll tell you what, hang out at any bar in SD next year and ask the barflys which conference the SDSU football team is a member of. Here's a crazy thought: rise above the cronic mediocrity and be good enough to go to a BCS bowl. Under the new MW agreement that could generate some serious bucks for the program. But I guess that just too hard to imagine. Isn't it. The new landscape of football and athletic success involves investment. Boise essentially picked the MWC pockets dry and the imbalance will grow. Without financing up front, as the other teams get richer, there won't be many BCS bowl games to get to. Also, note the net gain of funds after teams play in bowls. You will see it isn't all that. It's, you know, not a river in Egypt...
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Post by gauchosoul on Jan 10, 2013 16:58:51 GMT -8
What does Katz care if all we get for the headache is $800K? Interesting that he dogged ESPNU and the BW in his article. You are not even half right. The MWC just renegotiated for $12 million to the 12 teams, or $1million each. All MWC fans rejoiced in delight. If you break that between sports (70/30) then MWC tier 1 basketball right until most likely 2020 is worth an astonishing $300K per team. Compare this to the $5-6 million the Catholic7 is reporting!! That is 5% of what Catholid7 is valued!! MWC doesnt know how to negotiate or the MWC teams are really worthless. SDSU and really UNLV should be moving to the BE and forming a two division best of the rest conference made up of the top teams in the BE, MWC and CUSA with schools in SD, Florida, Texas, Cincy, Philly and New Orleans. Just makes too much sense instead of locking themselves into getting scraps from Boise that has no real future value in terms of tv sets.
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Post by dirtball on Jan 10, 2013 17:02:33 GMT -8
I would say Boise going to the MAC would be closer. As I see both the MWC and Big East as a step above despite the success the Mac had against the Big East. The MAC was rated higher than the MWC this year. The Mac had a good year. I know they faired well in their head to head match up withe the Big East. Regardless the MWC and Big East as currently constructed are the better conferences.
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Post by retiredaztec on Jan 10, 2013 19:50:36 GMT -8
Nice rhetoric. Now how do we pay bills on the 37 cents a day we'd get from the Hair Conference. Especially when California pulls the plug. All things being equal this would be a no brainer. But, sadly, they are not. If money is the be all end all, stand on a street corner with a tin cup, knock on doors or just accept the fact that whatever money the BE may be able to generate, it still may not matter if the community support just isn't there. I'll tell you what, hang out at any bar in SD next year and ask the barflys which conference the SDSU football team is a member of. Here's a crazy thought: rise above the cronic mediocrity and be good enough to go to a BCS bowl. Under the new MW agreement that could generate some serious bucks for the program. But I guess that just too hard to imagine. Isn't it. Having a MW brainfart, I meant to say the new BCS agreement could generate some serious bucks for SDSU. Yes, the Aztecs could generate some money if it becomes a marketable commodity as reflected in televised games under the new MW agreement. And they would have an equal shot at a BCS bowl as any of the other"have nots". Therein lies the rub. Though I don't have any intention of taking the BIG vacation any time soon, I don't see the program ascending to the level of prominance and leverage that BSU has during the time I remain on this side of the grass.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 20:10:33 GMT -8
Then weight the basketball tournament credits towards the teams that earn them...and package marquee games the same they are doing football...to ESPN and the over-the-air networks. Start there then... Thompson to Sterk: "No way, Jose." Sterk: "My name isn't Jose." Thompson: "I know but James is Jose in Spanish and ya'll are down there near Tiuh-juwana." Sterk: "James isn't Jose in Spanish." Thompson: "Now listen up. I called the Front Rangers and they said your nuts are in a ringer so if we tell you it is, it is, you pissant!"
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Post by 78aztec82 on Jan 10, 2013 20:22:27 GMT -8
If money is the be all end all, stand on a street corner with a tin cup, knock on doors or just accept the fact that whatever money the BE may be able to generate, it still may not matter if the community support just isn't there. I'll tell you what, hang out at any bar in SD next year and ask the barflys which conference the SDSU football team is a member of. Here's a crazy thought: rise above the cronic mediocrity and be good enough to go to a BCS bowl. Under the new MW agreement that could generate some serious bucks for the program. But I guess that just too hard to imagine. Isn't it. Having a MW brainfart, I meant to say the new BCS agreement could generate some serious bucks for SDSU. Yes, the Aztecs could generate some money if it becomes a marketable commodity as reflected in televised games under the new MW agreement. And they would have an equal shot at a BCS bowl as any of the other"have nots". Therein lies the rub. Though I don't have any intention of taking the BIG vacation any time soon, I don't see the program ascending to the level of prominance and leverage that BSU has during the time I remain on this side of the grass. Sorry you feel this way. I see the ability to grow and flourish but not in the "could, if, wish, perhaps" of your assessment of this TV deal. To be big, think big, act big. Don't settle for BYU 2.0s table scraps. We won't ever get there without a level, funded playing field. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards
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Post by cpslograd on Jan 10, 2013 21:46:22 GMT -8
Interesting that he dogged ESPNU and the BW in his article. Also even though the game was a good one The Save Mart center was less than half full. When the SaveMart was new and the Dogs were winning they had the highest attendance in the state. In a couple years the place will be full again.
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Post by cpslograd on Jan 10, 2013 21:51:01 GMT -8
Honest question. Can anyone think of a time when a college decided to down grade its most prominent sport (at this time) to a conference as bad as the Big West? No. But I can't think of a school that has left a conference for another one with half the TV contract either, with the exception of Boise, but I don't think Suds will get the ESPN home game contract deal that Boise is getting. Really have no idea what your school will do. Could make an argument for either option.
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Post by azzfan on Jan 11, 2013 0:09:04 GMT -8
Then weight the basketball tournament credits towards the teams that earn them...and package marquee games the same they are doing football...to ESPN and the over-the-air networks. Start there then... Thompson to Sterk: "No way, Jose." Sterk: "My name isn't Jose." Thompson: "I know but James is Jose in Spanish and ya'll are down there near Tiuh-juwana." Sterk: "James isn't Jose in Spanish." Thompson: "Now listen up. I called the Front Rangers and they said your nuts are in a ringer so if we tell you it is, it is, you pissant!" We can only hope hair threw down the pissant card. How awesome a conversation would that be now, and three years from now when these same $#!+ heads are vibrating Sterks nuggests off with cell phone text messages asking for a save from the BSU iceberg that hit them. I really hope Sterk and Hirsh have the balls to get us out of the Goat conference for good.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 0:15:16 GMT -8
Interesting article. Similar to what I was saying last week on conference BS.
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Post by RB Aztec on Jan 11, 2013 9:35:29 GMT -8
BYU football to independence? Because WCC isnt nearly as bad as the Big West. So true. The WCC was a downgrade but was not a jump off the cliff like the BW is. The WCC has at least has regular top 25 teams.
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