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Post by podpeople on Dec 20, 2012 21:05:53 GMT -8
We have it, the problem is they are all freshman. Well $#!+ James, I believe you but hasn't it been long enough that they don't all have to be freshmen? thats how a freshman thinks. |
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Post by k5james on Dec 20, 2012 21:06:37 GMT -8
We have it, the problem is they are all freshman. Well $#!+ James, I believe you but hasn't it been long enough that they don't all have to be freshmen? Tell it to lord Brady who decided not to recruit ANY lineman. |
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Post by podpeople on Dec 20, 2012 21:09:13 GMT -8
We didn't run the ball enough, was the problem. If we rub the ball instead of passing from our one in the 4th quarter, we win this game.9 I'm sorry, Zuma, I dont agree. the offense became so one dimensional it made us one dimensional. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2012 21:10:45 GMT -8
Aztec fb fans are idiotic after losses.
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Post by monty on Dec 20, 2012 21:11:41 GMT -8
yea what the F are you going to do, Tbone slapped linemen, chuck only recruited linemen, brady didn't give a f x x x to balance it out. Pebble won't ever win a bowl game, but he's at least balancing out the classes. we all knew this was going to happen - right?
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Post by k5james on Dec 20, 2012 21:12:18 GMT -8
We didn't run the ball enough, was the problem. If we rub the ball instead of passing from our one in the 4th quarter, we win this game.9 I'm sorry, Zuma, I dont agree. the offense became so one dimensional it made us one dimensional. We were leading 6-3 and our staff decides to get cute on our one yard line and throw a pass which is stripped and scored. If we run the ball and even go three and out we win this game, they didn't do $#!+ on offense until we gave them the game on turnovers. It's the same gameplan we used to beat Boise. |
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Post by monty on Dec 20, 2012 21:14:11 GMT -8
I'm sorry, Zuma, I dont agree. the offense became so one dimensional it made us one dimensional. We were leading 6-3 and our staff decides to get cute on our one yard line and throw a pass which is stripped and scored. If we run the ball and even go three and out we win this game, they didn't do $#!+ on offense until we gave them the game on turnovers. It's the same gameplan we used to beat Boise. basically. why we decide to finally throw the ball there, why we 'return' punts the way we did, why we refused to run the ball in the red zone. It is what it is - another humbling defeat to those bastards |
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Post by uncledougy on Dec 20, 2012 21:18:02 GMT -8
I'm sorry, Zuma, I dont agree. the offense became so one dimensional it made us one dimensional. We were leading 6-3 and our staff decides to get cute on our one yard line and throw a pass which is stripped and scored. If we run the ball and even go three and out we win this game, they didn't do $#!+ on offense until we gave them the game on turnovers. It's the same gameplan we used to beat Boise. Zuma is right....why pass? Run and punt, that was the turning point. Then was compounded by loss of composure....end of story. |
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Post by podpeople on Dec 20, 2012 21:18:06 GMT -8
I'm sorry, Zuma, I dont agree. the offense became so one dimensional it made us one dimensional. We were leading 6-3 and our staff decides to get cute on our one yard line and throw a pass which is stripped and scored. If we run the ball and even go three and out we win this game, they didn't do $#!+ on offense until we gave them the game on turnovers. It's the same gameplan we used to beat Boise. that was not a goot time to drop back, you're right, I'm not debating that. However, it was our constant running that kept them at the line of scrimmage to make that very play happen. like I said before, we ran the ball so much that we became one dimensional, and decided at the most asinine moments to throw the ball. you make too many summations based off of plays that went against us. What I'm saying is that when we had the chances to make high percentage throws mid field, we decided to go conservative and keep it on the ground. bad game plan, IMO. |
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Post by k5james on Dec 20, 2012 21:23:37 GMT -8
We were leading 6-3 and our staff decides to get cute on our one yard line and throw a pass which is stripped and scored. If we run the ball and even go three and out we win this game, they didn't do $#!+ on offense until we gave them the game on turnovers. It's the same gameplan we used to beat Boise. that was not a goot time to drop back, you're right, I'm not debating that. However, it was our constant running that kept them at the line of scrimmage to make that very play happen. like I said before, we ran the ball so much that we became one dimensional, and decided at the most asinine moments to throw the ball. you make too many summations based off of plays that went against us. What I'm saying is that when we had the chances to make high percentage throws mid field, we decided to go conservative and keep it on the ground. bad game plan, IMO. What you call a bad game plan is what helped us beat BSU. You pound the effing rock and play defense. It was working as planned until our staff decided to go Cornell and throw the ball on first down from our one. |
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Post by podpeople on Dec 20, 2012 21:31:27 GMT -8
that was not a goot time to drop back, you're right, I'm not debating that. However, it was our constant running that kept them at the line of scrimmage to make that very play happen. like I said before, we ran the ball so much that we became one dimensional, and decided at the most asinine moments to throw the ball. you make too many summations based off of plays that went against us. What I'm saying is that when we had the chances to make high percentage throws mid field, we decided to go conservative and keep it on the ground. bad game plan, IMO. What you call a bad game plan is what helped us beat BSU. You pound the effing rock and play defense. It was working as planned until our staff decided to go Cornell and throw the ball on first down from our one. yes, I know how we beat Boise. So did BYU, apparently. I also know what happened when we decided to pass it on the one YL. You're pointing out obvious facts, Zuma.. What you're not answering is why we didnt throw the ball more when th odds were in our favor? WE threw the bll in such situations at Boise that allowed for our offense to keep their defense honest. Exactly what we did NOT do in this game. c'mon, Zuma. You're better than this. |
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Post by Temoc on Dec 20, 2012 21:39:54 GMT -8
Because Muema was running very well, moving the chains, and keeping their offense on the sidelines. That and apparently our receivers can't catch.
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Post by k5james on Dec 21, 2012 4:02:18 GMT -8
What you call a bad game plan is what helped us beat BSU. You pound the effing rock and play defense. It was working as planned until our staff decided to go Cornell and throw the ball on first down from our one. yes, I know how we beat Boise. So did BYU, apparently. I also know what happened when we decided to pass it on the one YL. You're pointing out obvious facts, Zuma.. What you're not answering is why we didnt throw the ball more when th odds were in our favor? WE threw the bll in such situations at Boise that allowed for our offense to keep their defense honest. Exactly what we did NOT do in this game. c'mon, Zuma. You're better than this. Because we aren't a passing team guy. You stick with what got you there...pounding the effing rock. We threw 18 passes against Boise and were on track for around that last night until the stupid pass from the one got us behind and we finished with 29. Again, we were using the exact same gameplan we used to beat Boise and it was working until that stupid call. It may be obvious but you don't seem to get it... |
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Post by aztech on Dec 21, 2012 6:03:12 GMT -8
We didn't run the ball enough, was the problem. If we rub the ball instead of passing from our one in the 4th quarter, we win this game.9 As I watched the game I knew the dam was going to burst. We ran too much when we were ahead and they figured out Ludwig's tendencies. In the 4th qtr we had to pass to play catch up and BYU knew it. We lost the chess match, as usual. This was a disgusting loss and if the entire staff remains intact expect to see the same result in the next bowl, provided we even qualify for one in the nBE. Rocky is going to have to decide if he's going to be another nice guy Tollner, or go balls out and get a real staff. Had we lost by the spread it wouldn't have been so bad. |
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Post by gocoaztec on Dec 21, 2012 6:34:50 GMT -8
Pound the ball works. It makes your team develope a hard nosed attitude on both offense and DEFENSE. That is what we will need to have a chance to win in Nov at someplace like UConn in the bitter cold, with a 9:00 PST start. If you think that a soft, west-coast, let's "out trick 'em" offense will carry the day well....look at the last 30 years. We need to be HARD, and that means a punishing ground attack. Opponents should come into our games thinking "this is going to be BRUTAL". Go Aztecs -- toughness over trickery.
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Post by sleepy on Dec 21, 2012 7:45:09 GMT -8
There was no way a game plan of 1st down run, 2nd down run, 3rd down pass was gonna get it done against that D, especially with the second punch of Kazee out. Imagination sorely lacking.
Writing was on the wall by halftime after all those blown scoring opportunities.
Btw, our defense was outstanding.
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Post by GothamCityRogue on Dec 21, 2012 8:21:27 GMT -8
We ran the ball well. The attemted adjustment came at the stupidest possible time. That strip, fumble and TD clearly deflated not only the team, but the entire Aztec side of the stadium.
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Post by 99levi on Dec 21, 2012 9:08:19 GMT -8
I'm sorry, Zuma, I dont agree. the offense became so one dimensional it made us one dimensional. We were leading 6-3 and our staff decides to get cute on our one yard line and throw a pass which is stripped and scored. If we run the ball and even go three and out we win this game, they didn't do $#!+ on offense until we gave them the game on turnovers. It's the same gameplan we used to beat Boise. Agree 100%. I thought it was the correct game plan as well and would've resulted in the W if not for the "fumble" in the endzone. Our defense played extremely well imo. That block on the pick six was brutal. Missing Kazee was evident. Anyone know why Muema was out of the game in the 3rd and 4th qtr for several plays?? |
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