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Post by gamer2101 on Nov 14, 2012 10:56:07 GMT -8
I want the defense that got tougher as the game went on to come back. That lock it down in the second half Defense.
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Post by southocaztec on Nov 14, 2012 10:56:54 GMT -8
I agree with the bad loss column on this game.
Losing at home, giving up the lead in the 4th quarter, and the special teams play.
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Post by seasonticketholder on Nov 14, 2012 11:02:08 GMT -8
SJSU, Fresno State and Washington. All good teams having pretty good years. Washington may have had the toughest schedule in the nation outside of the SEC. San Jose St. is having a pretty good year, but how can you really say they are a good team? In addition to our choke job at home, they have 7 wins over the following programs: UC Davis (FCS, 3-7) Colorado State (3-7) Navy (6-4) Texas, San Antonio (6-4) Texas State (3-6 Idaho (1-9) New Mexico State (1-9) Is that line-up of victories how you know they are a good team?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 11:04:57 GMT -8
Please. It was an embarrassment. At home no less. If that's the case, then 7 other teams, plus Stanford, are embarrassed too. Yeah, the WAC should be embarrassed. And Stanford won- although you have a point. Beating SJSU by 3 is something to hide your face from.
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Nov 14, 2012 11:05:46 GMT -8
SJSU, Fresno State and Washington. All good teams having pretty good years. Washington may have had the toughest schedule in the nation outside of the SEC. San Jose St. is having a pretty good year, but how can you really say they are a good team? In addition to our choke job at home, they have 7 wins over the following programs: UC Davis (FCS, 3-7) Colorado State (3-7) Navy (6-4) Texas, San Antonio (6-4) Texas State (3-6 Idaho (1-9) New Mexico State (1-9) Is that line-up of victories how you know they are a good team? Well they can only play the schedule they were given and I give them a lot of credit for beating SDSU and playing Stanford so tough. Maybe I was generous in including them as a "good" team, but they certainly aren't a "bad" team. Let's see how they do against BYU and their remaining schedule.
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Post by k5james on Nov 14, 2012 11:32:11 GMT -8
It was a bad loss.
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Post by jcljorgenson on Nov 14, 2012 11:58:39 GMT -8
I was the OP of this thread and, for the record, my quote was "Bottom line, this wasn't all that bad of a loss for us." To clarify, it means it was a bad loss but not as bad as you may initially think.
If we had a rematch today, I think we take care of business. That in itself makes it somewhat of a bad loss.
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Post by fowl on Nov 14, 2012 12:09:01 GMT -8
It was a horrendous loss. A game we had no business losing - at all.
We had a decided advantage in yardage 484-367, first downs 29-21, and TOP 38-22 and still found a way to choke it away. It ranks up their with Cal Poly IMO.
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Post by ellbee on Nov 14, 2012 12:27:23 GMT -8
Bad Loss is a redundant term. Is there really such a thing as a "good" loss? A loss is a loss. You may play well in a loss, and learn from a loss, but somewhere along the line you didn't do what it took to win.
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Post by tonatiuh on Nov 14, 2012 13:10:13 GMT -8
SJSU, Fresno State and Washington. All good teams having pretty good years. Washington may have had the toughest schedule in the nation outside of the SEC. Correct, and so we have not lost to a bad team all season! Losing to San Jose was a disappointment, but not a complete surprise especially when I saw them come out on the field. Man, their lineman were big, and muscular compared to our smaller looking team. So, I knew we were in for a close game which it was. Now, if you don't watch or pay much attention to football then you need to know just about every team goes thru a part of the season where they either don't play quite as well, or are uninspired in certain games just as we were against San Jose St., and Fresno the week after. Just look at what happened to "Bama last Saturday for a perfect example. Thankfully, we have caught on fire the past 6 weeks, and have played much better. I love what the team has accomplished so far. Go Aztecs!!!
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Post by seasonticketholder on Nov 14, 2012 14:27:35 GMT -8
Bad Loss is a redundant term. Is there really such a thing as a "good" loss? A loss is a loss. You may play well in a loss, and learn from a loss, but somewhere along the line you didn't do what it took to win. Well, they both end up adding to the loss column, so I would agree that in that sense they're all bad. However, does a loss on the road at Alabama look/feel the same as a loss at home to Cal Poly?
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Post by ellbee on Nov 14, 2012 14:39:23 GMT -8
Bad Loss is a redundant term. Is there really such a thing as a "good" loss? A loss is a loss. You may play well in a loss, and learn from a loss, but somewhere along the line you didn't do what it took to win. Well, they both end up adding to the loss column, so I would agree that in that sense they're all bad. However, does a loss on the road at Alabama look/feel the same as a loss at home to Cal Poly? Well, we used to use the term "Moral Victory" before it was banned during the Hoke years. Now ALL losing sucks. Some losses just haunt you longer than others.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Nov 14, 2012 15:12:14 GMT -8
If this had been the Spartans of a year or two ago, then, yes, it would have been a terrible loss. Right up there with the Cal Poly fiascoes. However, their new coach, "Mike" MacIntyre, has worked a minor miracle in San Jose. He may turn up as HC of a major school in a few years. In fact, he may prove to be San Jose's Don Coryell.
You can point to the relative weakness of their schedule this year, but in the past they would have (exception: 2006) lost most of the games they have won this year and would not have come close to beating Stanford.
Whether MacIntyre is the real deal will be revealed when they move to the Mnt West next year.
Yes, we could well have won that game, probably should have. A bad loss, however? No really.
AzWm
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Post by aztech on Nov 14, 2012 16:10:56 GMT -8
If this had been the Spartans of a year or two ago, then, yes, it would have been a terrible loss. Right up there with the Cal Poly fiascoes. However, their new coach, "Mike" MacIntyre, has worked a minor miracle in San Jose. He may turn up as HC of a major school in a few years. In fact, he may prove to be San Jose's Don Coryell. You can point to the relative weakness of their schedule this year, but in the past they would have (exception: 2006) lost most of the games they have won this year and would not have come close to beating Stanford. Whether MacIntyre is the real deal will be revealed when they move to the Mnt West next year. Yes, we could well have won that game, probably should have. A bad loss, however? No really. AzWm We simply should not have lost to them, period. When we dropped down to 2-3 Rocky simplified the defense and the rest is history. This proves we do have the players, but the staff threw too much at them and too soon. I hope both coaches and players learned their lesson. We get to return the favor at Spartan Stadium next year. I hope their coach stays and with his team at full strength. No excuses from either side.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Nov 14, 2012 16:52:09 GMT -8
If this had been the Spartans of a year or two ago, then, yes, it would have been a terrible loss. Right up there with the Cal Poly fiascoes. However, their new coach, "Mike" MacIntyre, has worked a minor miracle in San Jose. He may turn up as HC of a major school in a few years. In fact, he may prove to be San Jose's Don Coryell. You can point to the relative weakness of their schedule this year, but in the past they would have (exception: 2006) lost most of the games they have won this year and would not have come close to beating Stanford. Whether MacIntyre is the real deal will be revealed when they move to the Mnt West next year. Yes, we could well have won that game, probably should have. A bad loss, however? No really. AzWm I'll give them credit for having beaten a bunch of DIAA teams and taking from us a game we gave them. It was a bad loss any way you slice it. The rest of the season has been the good news. That's really not fair to the teams SJSU has beaten, nor to the Spartans. I think only one of SJSU's opponents was FCS this year. The rest are D-IA (FBS), and as such would beat all but the best FCS schools. Along those lines, do we go around mumbling apologies for having beaten Army and Hawaii just because they are pretty weak this year? You play whoever is on your schedule and you either win or lose. So far this year the Spartans have mostly won (as of now, in fact, as many games as we have won, and in two fewer chances). Let's give credit where credit is due. AzWm
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Post by jcljorgenson on Nov 14, 2012 16:54:52 GMT -8
I'll give them credit for having beaten a bunch of DIAA teams and taking from us a game we gave them. It was a bad loss any way you slice it. The rest of the season has been the good news. That's really not fair to the teams SJSU has beaten, nor to the Spartans. I think only one of SJSU's opponents was FCS this year. The rest are D-IA (FBS), and as such would beat all but the best FCS schools. Along those lines, do we go around mumbling apologies for having beaten Army and Hawaii just because they are pretty weak this year? You play whoever is on your schedule and you either win or lose. So far this year the Spartans have mostly won (as of now, in fact, as many games as we have won, and in two fewer chances). Let's give credit where credit is due. AzWm Yep, and don't ding a team for winning the games "they should be winning." In fact, other than their two losses and the win against us, they have pretty much blown everyone else out.
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