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Post by alohaboarder on Nov 13, 2012 23:52:12 GMT -8
What freaking surfboard did you just get off of? Can't create his own shot? Next time you are at Viejas Arena, look up at the Banners. He came to San Diego State in 2009. Correct me if I am incorrect, but I looked up at the Banners tonight and I saw MWC 2010, MWC 2011, Sweet Sixteen and MWC 2012 banners! He has been at San Diego State for 3 years and counting. Dude, this cat put up double-digits points in MWC tournament with a broken hand as a Freshman! You may be right that he is not a NBA radar, but I would be willing to wager you that he can create his own shot against your ASS! And, don't tell anyone that I made this statement. He (Chase) has the ability and will DUNK on your ASS! Go Aztecs! You're talking like this is a golf tournament and those are his banners. If he was so good he would be in the NBA. Kawhi was the same class of 2009.
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Post by alohaboarder on Nov 13, 2012 23:55:15 GMT -8
Tapley is a good player but has a very hard time creating his own shots against better teams. Scouts aren't looking at him. Tapley hits a Higher percentage of difficult shot than anybody I've ever seen at SDSU. He creates shots for himself all the time. I don't think he's NBA level, just because he doesn't have the size for a 2 or the quickness for a 1 but he's definitely going to make a nice career playing hoops somewhere. They look difficult because he can't create the spacing. Jamaal makes 28 points look effortless in tonight's game. Tapley had to work for his 18.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 23:55:39 GMT -8
What freaking surfboard did you just get off of? Can't create his own shot? Next time you are at Viejas Arena, look up at the Banners. He came to San Diego State in 2009. Correct me if I am incorrect, but I looked up at the Banners tonight and I saw MWC 2010, MWC 2011, Sweet Sixteen and MWC 2012 banners! He has been at San Diego State for 3 years and counting. Dude, this cat put up double-digits points in MWC tournament with a broken hand as a Freshman! You may be right that he is not a NBA radar, but I would be willing to wager you that he can create his own shot against your ASS! And, don't tell anyone that I made this statement. He (Chase) has the ability and will DUNK on your ASS! Go Aztecs! You're talking like this is a golf tournament and those are his banners. If he was so good he would be in the NBA. Kawhi was the same class of 2009. This is the downside to SDSU having so much success. You get fools like this guy who come on the board and have no idea what they are talking about. It takes more than NBA players to build a program junior. Tapley has been every bit as valuable to SDSU as Kawhi was. Shut up and learn a thing or two about SDSU (or hoops for that matter) before you post.
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Post by Aztecole on Nov 13, 2012 23:56:06 GMT -8
Tapley is a better shooter, passer, dribbler, decision maker, and defender than Jamaal. He can definitely create a shot for himself just as good if not better than Jamaal. The only thing that Tapley lacks is the pure athleticism. Not trying to hate on Jamaal but I am rather trying to show how underrated Tapley is as an overall player...The dude can ball.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 23:57:08 GMT -8
Tapley hits a Higher percentage of difficult shot than anybody I've ever seen at SDSU. He creates shots for himself all the time. I don't think he's NBA level, just because he doesn't have the size for a 2 or the quickness for a 1 but he's definitely going to make a nice career playing hoops somewhere. They look difficult because he can't create the spacing. Jamaal makes 28 points look effortless in tonight's game. Tapley had to work for his 18. [/quote Lol I have never seen Jamaal make effortless points. He falls down after every bucket. Nothing wrong with that but Chase's game looks way more effortless than Jamaals. Although this is a dumb argument because its a totally subjective attribute.
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Post by mySTRAS on Nov 14, 2012 0:01:41 GMT -8
Taps has more 'NBA-type' shooting skills than Jamaal does... Jamaal has far better overall athleticism... Taps has a much higher basketball IQ... Jamaal has an incredible work ethic.
Bottom line... I don't think either one will have much of an NBA career. Taps, if he wants to, will make a boatload of money playing overseas. Jamaal will too, if he doesn't let his ego get in the way and think that Europe is beneath him.
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Post by alohaboarder on Nov 14, 2012 0:25:49 GMT -8
You're talking like this is a golf tournament and those are his banners. If he was so good he would be in the NBA. Kawhi was the same class of 2009. This is the downside to SDSU having so much success. You get fools like this guy who come on the board and have no idea what they are talking about. It takes more than NBA players to build a program junior. Tapley has been every bit as valuable to SDSU as Kawhi was. Shut up and learn a thing or two about SDSU (or hoops for that matter) before you post. Your tagline fits you so well. "I used to be a relevant part of Aztec Basketball" You aren't now and no one cares about who is/was more valuable. Kawhi > Jamaal > Chase
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Post by Aztec Empire on Nov 14, 2012 0:31:08 GMT -8
This is the downside to SDSU having so much success. You get fools like this guy who come on the board and have no idea what they are talking about. It takes more than NBA players to build a program junior. Tapley has been every bit as valuable to SDSU as Kawhi was. Shut up and learn a thing or two about SDSU (or hoops for that matter) before you post. Your tagline fits you so well. "I used to be a relevant part of Aztec Basketball" You aren't now and no one cares about who is/was more valuable. Kawhi > Jamaal > Chase ugh... this board has been messy the last few days.
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Post by sugarrise on Nov 14, 2012 0:46:07 GMT -8
No way Tapley is getting drafted. Not even on the scouts radar. If we make an NCAA run to the Final Four or even Elite 8, Tapley will definitely get some consideration - for at least round 2. The dude does everything very well. He'd have to lead the team which is entirely possible.
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Post by sdoc on Nov 14, 2012 1:32:51 GMT -8
Jamaal needs to prove his outside or even mid-range game for him to have success at the next level. Chase is the best pure shooter on the team, has excellent decision making ability and also lead the team in steals by a good margin. He is a great player and I hope he gets a shot at the NBA. Both are great players and I think both are equally valuable to the team.
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Post by chris92065 on Nov 14, 2012 5:46:23 GMT -8
Don't count out tape yet in the NBA. Tap has made a decision to let jamaal get most of the touches but tap can flat out shoot when he is rythymn.
I could see tap getting on a summer league squad next year and getting a chance to showcase his talents.
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Post by gamer2101 on Nov 14, 2012 6:51:47 GMT -8
IMO Tap's greatest contributions aren't listed on a stat sheet. He can do just about anything that the team needs done in order to get the W (defend, score, role play etc) well rounded, good at a lot of things, very good shooter but not great at anything (No disrespect)
as far as Maal goes, as soon as he understands that 1. The NBA doesn't NEED him & 2. His skill may not outweigh out of control emotions. Especially, away from school young fella (Again, no disrespect), his stock will increase quite a bit.
I just like competitors that flat out beat you....to your face.....no tricks....no smoke...no mirrors....ALL GAME
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Post by podpeople on Nov 14, 2012 7:23:21 GMT -8
anybody with any sense can see that Tpley is the more polished of the two players. Its obvious. Tapley's game is is so smooth that you can almost hear a calm stream passing whenever it is that he enters a room.
'Mals game is chaotic and feral. At times it almost seems as if he can barley dribble the ball down court. But when he's going good, the kid can jump with anyone. He's explosive, and exciting to watch.
these two men made cognizant choices on the players they wanted to be long ago, and you can tell by the way they play the game.
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Post by jpaztec on Nov 14, 2012 7:53:06 GMT -8
Maal's athleticism is what sets him apart in this debate. Yes Chase is a better shooter and decision maker, but Jamaal can do things that can let him contribute even when he's having an off night scoring the ball. Put back dunks, rebounding, steals....those are the things scouts are liking in him. It sure isn't his 2 for like 20 3 point shooting so far this season. The NBA is a league of seriously athletic people and large humans, see Syracuse' starting rotation, their guards did what they wanted against our guards based on size and athleticism alone due to the conditions.
Can Chase flat out score the ball, absolutely. Guess what, so could Jimmer, at a rate nearly twice that of Taps, and he's not getting many minutes and I'm sure Sacramento is wishing they had that first round pick back. I just don't see Chase being up to snuff athletically for an NBA squad to draft him next year. Praying I'm wrong here, cuz that would mean we have 3 legitimate NBA'ers on our squad this season which would be incredible, but I don't see it.
Bottom line, If Brandon Heath couldn't make the league, Chase ain't gonna make the league.
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 14, 2012 8:11:07 GMT -8
Tapley is a good player but has a very hard time creating his own shots against better teams. Scouts aren't looking at him. Tapley hits a Higher percentage of difficult shot than anybody I've ever seen at SDSU. He creates shots for himself all the time. I don't think he's NBA level, just because he doesn't have the size for a 2 or the quickness for a 1 but he's definitely going to make a nice career playing hoops somewhere. ^^^^ This. I've also never seen a smoother player. The NBA is full of outstanding athletes. Tapley's issue is he isn't one. But I agree with his skillset and high hoops IQ, he will find success elsewhere playing pro ball.
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 14, 2012 8:12:19 GMT -8
Tapley is a better shooter, passer, dribbler, decision maker, and defender than Jamaal. He can definitely create a shot for himself just as good if not better than Jamaal. The only thing that Tapley lacks is the pure athleticism. Not trying to hate on Jamaal but I am rather trying to show how underrated Tapley is as an overall player...The dude can ball. If Jamaal had Tapley's skills, he'd already be in the NBA.
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Post by jcljorgenson on Nov 14, 2012 8:19:24 GMT -8
I think you guys are underestimating Tapley's athleticism. The difference is Jamaal is always looking to showcase himself whereas Tapley just looks to get it done. A bucket is a bucket. Basically Tapley plays smarter.
Below is some video footage of Tapley in H.S., it shows quite a few dunks, including four in one game. The point is, he can elevate for a 6' 3" guard and he is quick with his hands and feet.
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 14, 2012 8:21:25 GMT -8
I think you guys are underestimating Tapley's athleticism. The difference is Jamaal is always looking to showcase himself whereas Tapley just looks to get it done. A bucket is a bucket. Basically Tapley plays smarter. Below is some video footage of Tapley in H.S., it shows four of his dunks that he had in one game. The point is, he can elevate for a 6' 3" guard and he is quick with his hands and feet. He's a good athlete. Just not NBA-caliber athlete. There's a difference. Look at Jimmer.
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Post by jcljorgenson on Nov 14, 2012 8:24:49 GMT -8
I think you guys are underestimating Tapley's athleticism. The difference is Jamaal is always looking to showcase himself whereas Tapley just looks to get it done. A bucket is a bucket. Basically Tapley plays smarter. Below is some video footage of Tapley in H.S., it shows four of his dunks that he had in one game. The point is, he can elevate for a 6' 3" guard and he is quick with his hands and feet. He's a good athlete. Just not NBA-caliber athlete. There's a difference. Look at Jimmer. Tapley is more athletic than Jimmer and, in case you didn't know, Jimmer was the 10th pick in the NBA draft. I rest my case.
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Post by zed on Nov 14, 2012 8:30:11 GMT -8
Double deuce is a ball hawk on defense. This sounds nuckin futs, but I wish the Chargers would give the dude a tryout as a DB next season. They have nothing to lose.
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