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Post by localsonly on Sept 30, 2012 20:23:06 GMT -8
all due respect minor, but you're wrong. concur - coach Rock designed and directs this D and decided which players do what, when, where and why...he is clearly over-matched and he vastly over estimated his returning defenders - ...a JUCO lineman or three could have made a huge difference - as many here have noted, his guys are small and must gamble to beat the big boys. meanwhile the challenge for the Rock is to have is players get better and better and very soon he must hire another defensive coach since the present system is just not working.
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Post by kozy on Sept 30, 2012 20:26:57 GMT -8
Nice guy, majority here wanted him to succeed. He hasn't and won't. Time to retire officially.
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Post by monty on Sept 30, 2012 21:23:07 GMT -8
I agree Steveem. I don't see his pride letting him continue beyond this year. Actually I have a suspicion (and hope) that he'll be asked to resign within weeks. I'd like to think that you're both right, but I have a feeling you're both wrong. See my question vis-a-vis CA state pension. Retiree Long is already basically collecting his pension while watching his gimmick defense get shredded. SDSU will have paid him over 2mil dollars when he is let go this year and I hope he lives a wonderful life
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Post by monty on Sept 30, 2012 21:28:23 GMT -8
So someone punched him in the nose and he ran to the beach? Good place to retire to.
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Post by monty on Sept 30, 2012 21:34:53 GMT -8
So someone punched him in the nose and he ran to the beach? Good place to retire to. Yeah dude lives like a mile from me. Max. I've already noted the irony of the old "beach" comment. I must have missed it, oh good ole Irony Long.
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Post by ohioaztec1 on Oct 1, 2012 6:19:08 GMT -8
He has to go!!! A new HC will bring in his own OC/DC. I would expect that once we have 5+ losses an interim HC will run the team untilthe end of the season.
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Oct 1, 2012 7:10:13 GMT -8
as many here have noted, his guys are small, slow to the QB and must gamble to beat the big boys.
It's hard to watch the defensive recruiting struggle after 2 bowl game appearances and 17? wins in 2 years! I don't get it!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 8:06:02 GMT -8
as many here have noted, his guys are small, slow to the QB and must gamble to beat the big boys. There really aren't any "big boys" left on the schedule now that Boise is nothing more than good. We're going to get crushed at Reno (something like 66-35) but every other game can be competitive if we dispense with the blitz, which is worse than useless this year, and go to a bend-don't break style. That's obviously not Rocky's favorite approach but it can't help but improve things. Repeat after me: 56 Fresno passes, 0 SDSU sacks.
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Post by aztecmichael on Oct 1, 2012 12:04:10 GMT -8
as many here have noted, his guys are small, slow to the QB and must gamble to beat the big boys. There really aren't any "big boys" left on the schedule now that Boise is nothing more than good. We're going to get crushed at Reno (something like 66-35) but every other game can be competitive if we dispense with the blitz, which is worse than useless this year, and go to a bend-don't break style. That's obviously not Rocky's favorite approach but it can't help but improve things. Repeat after me: 56 Fresno passes, 0 SDSU sacks. And just 1 against SJSU. How is that even possible? 88 pass attempts, not counting qb runs, and 1 sack? When your entire defensive philosophy is to blitz and disrupt the qb? Its not even thinkable if we were playing top 15 teams, let alone just decent CA schools. 1. Either the kids don't understand the defense. 2. Or the guys we have recruited are not very good. I don't think this is a strategic problem, its a "we aren't very good" problem. If we are "young", then we would still see some athleticism and some pop from the defense. Not to pick on our guys, but when was the last time Vanness Harris, Rob Andrews, Largent, Fely really laid guys out? Maybe our recruiting is really bad, our strength program is really bad, or maybe some guys don't care that much. Its boggling.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 12:17:47 GMT -8
Hawaii had two offensive linemen carted off the field at BYU. I haven't heard anything about their status for Saturday but you have to think at least one won't play and Hawaii's line wasn't exactly stout to begin with. In fact, Phil Steele had Hawaii dead last in the MWC in his pre-season mag. So if can't pressure their QB, we need to just give up and go to a bend don't break philosophy for the second half of the year.
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Post by sleepy on Oct 1, 2012 12:22:58 GMT -8
Unless there is a total collapse in terms of discipline, morale, (a la the New Mexico catastrophe or the scandals at Arkansas and Alabama a few years ago), etc this is your coach through the end of this season and most likely the next.
I see the decline, but I also still see plenty of potential for being a solid, bowl-eligible team. To start with, they just have to stop shooting themselves in the foot, and the Head Coach has to not throw in the towel during the 55th minute of a game still in doubt.
It would not be the first time in history a team came out of the gate slow and then played rock-solid the final two months.
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Post by aztecmichael on Oct 1, 2012 12:39:16 GMT -8
Unless there is a total collapse in terms of discipline, morale, (a la the New Mexico catastrophe or the scandals at Arkansas and Alabama a few years ago), etc this is your coach through the end of this season and most likely the next. I see the decline, but I also still see plenty of potential for being a solid, bowl-eligible team. To start with, they just have to stop shooting themselves in the foot, and the Head Coach has to not throw in the towel during the 55th minute of a game still in doubt. It would not be the first time in history a team came out of the gate slow and then played rock-solid the final two months. Just curious, where do you see the potential on defense? Maybe I am just being blind, but I don't see any. In fact, without McFadden, this is a total train wreck right now.
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Post by MontezumaPhil on Oct 1, 2012 14:22:51 GMT -8
Unless there is a total collapse in terms of discipline, morale, (a la the New Mexico catastrophe or the scandals at Arkansas and Alabama a few years ago), etc this is your coach through the end of this season and most likely the next. I see the decline, but I also still see plenty of potential for being a solid, bowl-eligible team. Wish I did. I would be optimistic about our defense if anybody on the field or sideline had given us any reason to. But they haven’t. This defense is an oil spill. The only thing saving us from a Hindenburg of a season is the fact that we still have most of the MWC on our schedule. But nobody except retiredaztec could be satisfied with that. The team is bad and getting worse, which is pretty much the litmus test of whether or not a staff stays. I don’t think people with influence will sit back and let us go into the BE with a staff that doesn’t inspire confidence. Some have posted that even a 2-10 season won’t get Long dismissed. Maybe not, but I think SGF is right that Long has too much pride to stick around if the current meltdown continues through game 12.
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Post by sleepy on Oct 1, 2012 15:42:35 GMT -8
Unless there is a total collapse in terms of discipline, morale, (a la the New Mexico catastrophe or the scandals at Arkansas and Alabama a few years ago), etc this is your coach through the end of this season and most likely the next. I see the decline, but I also still see plenty of potential for being a solid, bowl-eligible team. To start with, they just have to stop shooting themselves in the foot, and the Head Coach has to not throw in the towel during the 55th minute of a game still in doubt. It would not be the first time in history a team came out of the gate slow and then played rock-solid the final two months. Just curious, where do you see the potential on defense? Maybe I am just being blind, but I don't see any. In fact, without McFadden, this is a total train wreck right now. The D plays well in spurts. Thats where I see the potential. What they have to do now is become consistent -- Play a full game, start to finish. If they have to also junk their current scheme and switch it around to match personnel, fine. But the talent is there, as is the potential. They aren't going to be the Steel Curtain. But they have what it takes to be a serviceable D unit.
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Post by monty on Oct 1, 2012 15:45:18 GMT -8
The potential the Defense has is to fire the head coach, get rid of the gimmick, and get players that aren't 30-50 pounds lighter than their counterparts
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